How Emotions Influence Our Health – With Megan Buer

Dr. Mindy
So we’re just gonna dive right in. And let me just start by thanking you for coming to the resetter podcast. I always say that even though you’re interacting with me, really there’s an army of, of women and men that listen to this regularly and are dying to know more about how they can be healthier and happier. So thank you for being here.

Megan Buer
You’re welcome. I’m happy to be here.

Dr. Mindy
Awesome. So the Emotion Code, I want to I want to start with that. Because I have to say that I’ve heard about the Emotion Code, the book The process for years. And it was like, every time I asked somebody to explain it to me, I became confused. And then I sort of, it sort of fell out of my mind. And yet, I’m hearing it in more and more conversations. So I’d love to just start with, how do you follow up with you know, how do you become an Emotion Code expert? What is it that we need to know about it? Before we dive into how women can benefit from it?

Megan Buer
Yeah, well, I will explain the Emotion Code. And then I think explaining my story, particularly my story with my family, and my my health is going to help explain it a little bit more give some real life, you know, insight into how it works in the day to day. But basically, Emotion Code is a form of energy healing, that works specifically on the subconscious mind to release emotional baggage. So basically, throughout our whole life, we have these experiences, whether they’re big traumas or small stress, we have these experiences where we do not, we feel something and we don’t process it, we don’t, it’s not validated, it’s not acknowledged, it’s not processed, we don’t learn a lesson from it, and it gets kind of stuck. And what ends up happening is basically our body creates this energy and it can kind of be stuck in our energy field it can be it gets stuck in Oregon’s it can get stuck in all different places. And the Emotion Code finds those and clears it, it’s a very simplified way of talking about it, but and to explain what a trapped emotion is, the example I like to get my clients is, you know, when you’re driving down the road, and a song comes on, and immediately your entire body mind every put back into a specific memory, that’s exact, your subconscious that work there, there’s some sort of trigger, that song has triggered your subconscious mind in some way to go back into a memory. And so when that’s exactly how trapped emotions work. And so when we are going throughout our day, and you know, our kids are fighting or bosses upset, or we’ve just got kind of day to day stuff. And we notice, you know, once we hit 30s 40s 50s, we’ve got a lot of stuff, we’re carrying a lot of stuff, we gathered a lot, a lot of baggage, yeah. And so what we noticed is those little things that should be day to day stresses are feel really big in our bodies. And we start to notice that and that’s what becomes chronic anxiety or chronic depression. It’s just consistently these trapped emotions being consistently triggered over and over again. So what I really like about the Emotion Code is the fact that, you know, the goal of it is for you to be able to wake up in the morning, and be authentically yourself and present in the moment of what’s actually happening and not reacting out of anything from the past. So you’re able to show up in a relationship, in your relationship with your kids at work with your spouse, and be who you are present in that moment. Without all this past junk coming along with it, you know, it’s taking that froth. So, you know, I see people, you know, obviously with the big things, anxiety, depression, things like that, but the anybody can benefit from this work. So, as far as you know, people with cancer or neck pain or any sort of physical problem, there’s usually always some sort of emotional connection. And that goes back to, you know, traditional Chinese medicine where every organ connects to a certain emotion and things like that. And so the interesting thing is, you know, for me, I was one of the women who was, you know, thyroids off adrenals are burned out, like, I was just sick all the time. But everything was fine. Nobody could figure out what was wrong, you know. And I was doing all the things I had the perfect diet and all the supplements and, you know, I would just sit reading health books all day every day was just researching for years to try and figure out how to basically feel better, and like myself again, and I remember I kept hearing people talk about, you know, the mind body connection and energy work. And I was just like, first of all, it’s just way too woowoo. For me, secondly, you know, I have a physical problem that I need to fix first, and then I will deal with my emotions, like, maybe, maybe it’s another food I need to cut out, maybe it’s another supplement I need to add, maybe it’s this. And I was so stressed out trying to feel better, that I was making myself sick. And what really happened was this journey to health is really what made me sick. And when I, when I finally kind of threw my hands there, I was like, Fine, let’s start some of this woowoo stuff, because nothing else is working. That’s when everything really started to shift. And I realized this was the missing piece was that emotional piece. And that’s, once we got that in, you know, then it was like, everything, I just started to feel better. It was amazing.

Dr. Mindy
Interesting. So you, I want to make one point here, because I think this is something I’m hearing in a lot of common conversations, which is the woowoo. We like we like label something woowoo. But I want to tell you, there’s a new word for woowoo in the health space right now. And it’s called neuroscience, like, literally. So, you know, the fact that we are carrying some of these old beliefs, that healing has to look in a certain way. And if it doesn’t look, the way that the healthcare system we’ve been raised in has taught us we call it whoa, whoa, yes, that blows me away. Because if you go back and look at indigenous cultures, you go back and look at the matriarchal society that used to exist, you know, centuries ago, woowoo was highlighted, intuition was highlighted emotions were respected ceremony was respected. And once we got into this linear path of health care, we became incredibly blind, don’t you think?

Megan Buer
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Because it’s so much harder to, to profit off of your intuition.

Dr. Mindy
And yeah, that’s right. That’s right,

Megan Buer
it’s a lot harder to make money, it’s a lot easier to make money off of a pill than it is to, you know, have teach someone how to listen to their intuition.

Dr. Mindy
But also to your point, it’s as the person on the healing journey, it’s, it’s, it’s a lot easier to take a pill, it’s a lot easier if somebody tells me it’s not my fault. It’s a lot easier if I can put the blame outside of me. So what I’m hearing you say is that as we go along life, we’re a bit like sponges, emotional sponges. And so every, like emotional moment that kind of hits us that gets absorbed in ourselves. And does it ever leave? Is it always there? Yeah. So

Megan Buer
that’s the thing is not every emotion that we feel throughout our lives is getting trapped. It is more than the emotions that are not validated, and acknowledged and released. So if we are now maybe other people are different, but I know that the family, the culture, the religion, everything that I grew up in did not value emotional intelligence. We didn’t sit around and have talks about like, you know, well, when you feel anxiety, this is what you need to do. No, it was just everything’s pushed under the rug. And that wasn’t like, that was just, that’s the culture that we all lived in. And so we grew up thinking that, that like emotions, bad emotions were bad that you know, if we feel sad, or we feel scared, or we need to hide that, we don’t want to feel free, especially for women we have been taught, do not feel angry, do not show that, you know, keep a smile on your face. And, and so those are the things that get trapped when we are needing to feel something we’re needing to, to speak up or needing those motion moments when we don’t, that’s when things are getting trapped.

And what I noticed in my practice, is it’s so many women that are coming to me, and why I think that is, is because as women, we are more connected to our cycles to nature to our intuition, and we’re more empathic, we’re more intuitive. And we do we so we take on things just as much as we feel things and that’s so women are kind of coming in and they’ve got all their own stuff, but they’re also carrying everybody else’s stuff to other kids stuff. Oh, yes. Oh, you know, and it’s so then these women, and as kind of the gatekeepers to the family, these women are coming in and they are destroyed like they are. And I remember I was there like I just remember not being able to function because my anxiety was so high, and I couldn’t pinpoint anywhere to start and I tried every thing you know, I tried every therapy, every healing diet, every stupid supplement everything. And I was just like, it’s got to be gluten, it’s got to be, you know, and you know. And so, I, again, this whole journey made me come to this place of realizing how, especially as a woman, I and every other woman is a very energetic emotional being. There’s nothing wrong with that. There’s ways to release this. And then there’s ways to go about your day, and move through stress and emotions in a much healthier way. There’s a way to hallelujah, and empathy and not get it all stuck and trapped.

Dr. Mindy
Yeah. So a couple of things I want to highlight on that, that was genius. And then I want to get into how we release it. Again, I one of my missions right now is to give help people to help women step back into our power. And I feel like when we look at history over time, a lot of the patriarchal world we’re living in, and this is not an anti patriarch. Conversation, I’m more want to see the matriarch or the patriarch coming together. But I feel like in this over, let’s just call it the overachiever sort of push on through success oriented society that we’re in. We are we haven’t been given the opportunity to be expressive about our emotions, we haven’t been able to show that we’re weak, we haven’t been able to highlight our intuition. So much of that is missing, because our culture doesn’t applaud it. So it makes sense to me that it would get pushed down. Because you feel a little bit like a freak, when you start to talk about well, I have an intuitive hit that this is the way I’m supposed to eat, or this is the way the supplement I’m supposed to take. I mean, I had a woman years ago, in my practice that would hold every supplement that I recommended to her would hold it up to her head, and like do like an energy vibe with it. And at the time, we thought it was silly. And now I’m looking at it and going, Oh, she was a genius. What was I thinking? So do you think we’re seeing more of this right now, because we’re at that point where women have pushed enough down, and we’re tired of pushing it down. And we’re starting to see conversations like this emerge where women are like, I’m done with this traditional way of living life, and I need to do things differently. Do you feel like that culture is changing?

Megan Buer
I think so. I think, you know, I think everything you said was spot on, as far as, you know, ignoring our intuition, ignoring all that ancient wisdom that we have within ourselves, and pushing through type A Go, go go ignore everything. That’s just not how we as women work, it’s just,

for better for worse, that’s just not where we thrive. Yeah. And so it’s finding this beautiful balance between, you know, recognizing that we can’t just like lay around all day and feel emotions, like we have. Right. And it’s a very good point. So recognizing that, like, there’s, it’s not a bad thing, to have emotions to be connected to your intuition. It’s, it’s a really beautiful thing. And I think women are, there’s so many women who are chronically sick and stressed out and anxious and depressed, and they don’t know what to do. And a lot of times, it’s not about doing anything else. It’s about just getting back to your authentic self and allowing some of those more feminine parts to come out.

I know for me, it was like, pushing it like being in my masculine and pushing and pushing and pushing, and trying to fix myself thinking something was wrong thinking something was broken. And really, it was getting, you know, releasing enough of the trapped emotion so that I had enough clarity to realize there’s actually nothing wrong with me. Yeah, I’ve just been chasing my tail for the last 10 years. I’m not really there’s I’m not broken. I’m just, I’m just very sensitive. I’m very intuitive. I’m very empathic. I’m a, I’m a woman. And there’s nothing wrong with any of that. There’s nothing to fix. And so normal that we have, and we flow and things aren’t linear and perfect all day, every day. So it’s finding this delicate balance. And so yes, we have women who are some women who are still sitting in this place of chronic stress, chronic fatigue, chronic everything. And then there’s some women who are starting to transform and come out of that and realize I just wasn’t living in tune with my authentic self and I wasn’t living with nature and like my cycles and I wasn’t being who I needed to be and allowing all these motions to come up to so they can be released. And then when they do it’s yeah, they’re they’re gonna be The ones with the supplements on their forehead,

Dr. Mindy
right. But here’s the dilemma for for the I call her the rushing woman. This is a term I learned from from Dr. Libby Weaver. Like, there’s so many of us that want to achieve, we want to we love our work. We’re like there’s so the world is our oyster. But our hormones are demanding that there’s an ebb and flow to your point. So when our hormones like certain hormones, like progesterone show up, and we’re supposed to be more intuitive and more inner, but we’ve got a big old workday, we’re now hormonally out of balance with with what the world has on our calendar and what our body says inside. How do we work on that day where we have to push past what our biology is telling us to do. Because I think that might be where the big part of where the emotions are getting shoved down, because there’s a little bit of resentment. And we have to sort of go into this driver state that we weren’t hormonally prepared for,

Megan Buer
right? No, I totally understand that. And I know those days now I have my, my days, and my work schedule and all that setup so that I do not burn myself out. When I first started. My private practice 1012 years ago, I was all day every day, go go go. kids are in bed, keep working, be 10. And that didn’t last long.

Dr. Mindy
I did that for like two decades that I’m trying to undo that. Yeah,

Megan Buer
it did not last long for me. And and so now, you know, I realized, you know, before I was doing 10 clients a day, and now I’m like two to four, Max. And I know that’s my limit. And so I think for every woman, if you’re working in the home out of the home, stay at home, mom, whatever you’re doing, it is finding where your limits are and not being not apologizing for that. And so even if it’s like shoot my progesterone spiking, and I need to be home and rest, and I’ve got this busy day, I do whatever I can to rearrange that if I need to, and then and rest as much as I possibly can. And even if I’m out and having to be out and do things, I will very intentionally slow myself down. You know, where, when that first you know, estrogens rising, I’m just like, out there, go, go, go. Let’s get shit done. Let’s Yeah, and Exactly, yeah. And I love that moment that I really liked that part. Yeah, that’s always really fun. But then I also really honor and welcome the progesterone as well where it’s time to slow down. And even if I’m out running an errand, or something, I intentionally slow my body down when I’m doing it, I do not allow the the rush of the world to infiltrate. And I tried to just, unlike Hey, kids, Mom’s having a slow day, I need to rest. And you know, let the kids pick up the slack, like the spouse, pick up the slack, you know, rearrange a client, like, do whatever you can. But also, if you can, before that hits, set your date your month up, so that you’ve got time to like, Hey, I know that these two weeks of the month, I’m going to be like all, you know, guns firing, like ready to go and getting everything done. So I’m going to put these projects here, and then I’m going to slow down and I’m going to work on you know, quieter work, I’m going to make sure I have time every day to rest. Like for me, it’s just downtime every day is a non negotiable, like I just, I that’s just how I work. And I can’t if I if I push through that I’m going to be miserable. And so it’s really recognizing what your body needs. And not apologizing for it empowering yourself to take charge and say, I need I need these two days, I need these three days to rest I need I need a rest for an hour every afternoon like whatever it is, it’s okay, there’s no problem.

Dr. Mindy
Oh my god, you’re totally speaking my language. And you’re also stepping into a dream that I have for women. And that is if we understood our hormones to that level of detail that you just explained. We literally could create a monthly calendar where we’re like all the like I call it get shit done moments like we’re going to do in the front half of our cycle. I also like so I have a new book coming out that’s all about fasting for women, and how to time food and fasting to this exact concept. And once I grabbed it, I was like we could tie everything to it. And so I gave different different names to the different parts of the cycle and ovulation. I call it the manifestation phase. Because you’ve got estrogen, you’ve got testosterone, estrogen gives you great mental clarity. Testosterone gives you great motivation and drive. That’s a time that’s a total get shit done moment that, but then the back half when progesterone comes in progesterone wants you just to chill out and to actually we’ve I learned this from John Gray where progesterone really wants us to be more in community with other women that are chilling out on the couch together with us. So when we start to look at all this, we’re like, wow, we are so primal, we are so tribal, like, how did we get so off course, with something as intrinsically important as navigating our calendar around our hormones?

Megan Buer
Yeah, yeah. No, I totally I agree. I’m there with you. You’re speaking my language as well. You know, it’s, it’s such a beautiful thing, when you realize like, not crazy. There’s nothing wrong with me that I’m really tired these two weeks, like there’s nothing wrong. And that’s, that’s the lesson I have had to learn over and over again, throughout my journey is, whatever it is, if I’m feeling anxiety, or I’m feeling tired, or I’m feeling, you know, whatever, it’s, it’s all okay, there’s nothing wrong with any of it. There’s nothing wrong with our emotions, there’s nothing wrong, or cycles, if you’re tired, you’re tired, that doesn’t necessarily mean something’s wrong. It just means that in our society and our masculine linear society, we’re not allowed to be tired. I’m gonna be tired. And I’m gonna allow myself to, you know, to rest. Yeah. So it’s really beautiful and empowering. When you realize this is all how it supposed to be. It’s don’t have to conform to this, you know, perfect, always energized, always happy, always getting things done, you know, step. Thank

Dr. Mindy
you. Thank you for saying that. And this is what I hope every woman listening to this, this is why we have to talk about it. And I think prior to this moment, in time, it when we talked about being tired, when we said we can’t do something, when we are emotional, it’s looked at, on us as being a negative thing. But when you start to look at our hormones, it actually makes perfect sense. And so when women come together, and we say, Hey, I gotta say, No, this week, because I need to progesterone is coming in, or, Hey, you know what, you want to start a project together? Let’s do it on day 12 of my cycle, because I’m gonna have all these hormones. That’s the world that I think would be so cool. So. So with that in mind, with that new world that we would want to have these conversations in, what do we do with the old traumas that have been stuffed down, because let’s just use anxiety as an example. As a, as a, I don’t even know where I am in menopause. But I’m 52 year old woman, I will tell you that anxiety will show up. And it doesn’t seem logical, like my brain will say, you gotta run, something’s not right. And so the younger version of me would try to identify wasn’t what wasn’t right. But the older version of me knows that something some trot, physical, emotional, chemical, something is showing up for me to deal with. So how lead us through what the Emotion Code says there, like, when that shows up? How can we actually work through it as opposed to pointing blaming everybody around us?

Megan Buer
Yeah. So there’s two things now I would say anybody who’s dealing with kind of a chronic anxiety issue, an anxiety issue that prohibits you from living your life, depression, chronic depression, whatever it is, chronic anger, finding an emotion co therapist is a great idea. That’s a perfect way to get rid of all that stuff on that subconscious level. And you said it perfectly. You when, you know, rationally, it doesn’t make sense to feel the way we’re feeling. But we still are, yeah, something has been triggered on that subconscious level. Now, if it’s just kind of random, and it happens every now and then and it’s not chronic and not prohibiting you from really fully living your life. That’s normal, and that’s okay. So what for those people what I say is, you know, the reason why trapped or emotions get trapped, is because they are not being acknowledged and validated. And so the biggest thing, especially when you’re in a moment when you’re going throughout your day, and all of a sudden that adrenaline’s there, and you’re like, I gotta run or I feel like I’m gonna die or something’s happening and at but and you look around and you say okay, nothing, nothing in my immediate environment should be provoking that kind of response. What I always tell people to do is I liken our emotions to small children. So they are very irrational. And they can be, they are very, they can be very loud and they need some attention. And so very similarly, if you’re going throughout your day and you’re feeling anxiety, think of it kind of It’s like this little kid who’s tugging on your leg like, Hey, Mom, look at this thing, Hey, Mom, look at this thing. And if you are like, I can’t deal with this right now push it away, push it away, that little kid or that anxiety, whatever it is, is not gonna go away, right? That kid is gonna come back and get louder. Yang Carter, and may insert, baby start, you know, getting screaming at you, Mom, please, I need and same with anxiety, anxiety is going to do the same thing. Like it’s gonna get louder, it’s not going to go away. If we ignore it, it’s not going away. So I always say much like you would pause what you’re doing and turn to a little child and give them attention for a minute. The same, we need to do the exact same thing with our feelings as they come up. So it’s taking that moment and pausing whatever we’re doing, you know, take a deep breath, put your hand on your heart, and just say, hey, like, Okay, what’s the message here? I’m feeling anxiety. What’s going on? Is Am I physically mentally emotionally safe? You have to answer that yourself? And if the answer is yes, then just recognize this is just my body releasing some adrenaline, I’m gonna sit here and I’m gonna let my body finish doing what it needs to do. And maybe you need to sit and quiet for a minute, maybe you actually need to get up and jump and stomp and shake it out. And it’s it. Again, it’s tuning into your intuition to figure out what does this emotion need? What does that little child yanking on my leg need. So a lot of times, depending on where we are in our cycle, sometimes we need to go for a run and shake that stuff out. Other times, we need to sit and quiet and rest and let it pass. And it’s allowing ourselves to just recognize nothing wrong is happening. We just need to let this emotion move. Now, sometimes there is a greater message. Now sometimes, you know that anxiety is meaning, you know, I’m not in the right relationship. I’m not in the right career, I’m you know, there is a bigger message, and we need to listen to that as well. But kind of that day to day stuff. It’s really just pausing, acknowledging and just listening to Okay, what do I need now? And, and going and doing that?

Dr. Mindy
I like that, what do I need? Now? I think what I’ve been saying I’ve done is like, what, what is this? Where’s this coming from? You know, like, what do I need to change? Or what is it telling me? And then a lot of times I end up with no answer. And so what do I need now that I think that’s a really, really helpful statement. What I’ve learned about suppressed emotions in the body, is sometimes there’s not a language to put to them. So when anxiety shows up, or depression shows up, it’s it’s hard to figure out what it’s what it’s telling us. Yeah. Is that what in the in? Like, when you’re working one on one? With a woman? Is there a strategy to get at, like, what that emotion is tied to?

Megan Buer
For sure. There’s, that’s where more of my intuition comes in. As I’m working in talking with someone, I will start to get kind of these hits of like, and I’ll ask them questions like, Okay, talk to me about this for a minute. And, and it’ll just be a beautiful conversation of like, weaving into kind of where this root cause is. And that’s where, you know, we can work together to get to that root cause. And the great thing about that is when we are working on that energetic level, when we work on one thing, if it’s anxiety, we’re really working on everything. So if this woman comes to me, and she’s got headaches, and she’s got hormone imbalance, and she’s got anxiety, and she’s got depression, well, if we, they’re all connected, it’s all branches of the same tree. So as we get to that root, cause we are working on everything, we’re healing the entire system, it’s just getting the body in a place where we’re getting out of that state of constant fight or flight or freeze, so that we can you know, we can move into something a little bit more authentic and natural.

Dr. Mindy
Yeah, so So some of the emotions that I’ve noticed just tuning in to my body is that it’s like the same story keeps coming up. And so do you feel like you know, as women well, as I’ve studied hormones, in more detail, I realized that talking things out actually really like can have a hormonal change in us and and again, I go back to John Gray. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. He has taught me a lot on this, that in order to rebalance testosterone and estrogen, verbally processing is really really helpful. So do you do you feel like talking out like I’m anxious right now because of this, this and this? I don’t know why but this is what’s running through my head. When you say we’ve got to let go or get acknowledged that is that is it as simple as talking, grabbing our bestie and being Like, um, this is what I feel right now.

Megan Buer
Absolutely, it can be absolutely. So um, that’s the thing is, we, a lot of times as women, again, we’re used to pushing things down or holding things in waiting for the right time or whatever. And just being able to talk to someone, if that’s your spouse, or a friend or a family member, to just about like, and and, and saying, Hey, I’m feeling this right now. And open that conversation up and start talking and make sure it’s somebody that obviously that you trust somebody that can give you good advice, and they’re not sitting there with every push down, like, oh, everything’s fine. No, like, you don’t want that. To straight, you know? And so yes, it can be as simple as talking to someone. And if you don’t have anyone to talk to, you can literally just talk to yourself, and I will tell people to do that, like, hey, when you’re going about your day, and you’re doing the laundry, and all of a sudden you feel angry, you know, stop and say out loud. I’m feeling angry right now. And it’s okay. And then kind of just pause and see what else comes up and see where that comes, you know, like, just so you just start working with it.

Dr. Mindy
You just gave me a really interesting idea. Because one of the things that I studied, or people I thought leaders I studied for many years was Abraham Hicks. Do you know Abraham Hicks. And so one of the things that, you know, their teachings have really been emphasizing is that, you know, if something negative shows up, stop looking at it, and look the other way. And I think that can be helpful. But then on the flip side of that, I’ve also found great peace in doing exactly what you just said, like, I’m fucking angry. I’m irritable, I’m anxious and like just leaning into it. I did this. Over the spring, my, you know, my kids have official empty nester, they’ve left the nest, our house was the central hub for all the kids to come hang out on. And so I went into a real deep grief in the, in the emptiness of my house. And I kept trying to use the positive of like, look at all the freedom I have. I’m not I didn’t look at all the how clean my kitchen is. And finally, one day, I was like, No, I’m going into the grief of this. And for about a month or two, I just was in like deep grief crying every day. And I thought, What am I ever getting out of this? This is horrific. But you know what, after a couple of months of like sitting in that I came out a happier person. Is that what you’re talking about? Like when we’re looking at the stuffed emotions? They stay stuff? If we don’t acknowledge them, and feel them and bring them out?

Megan Buer
Yeah, they do. And you know, there is there is a time and a place for positivity. Absolutely. But if it is to cover up and band-aid, a real feeling that you’re having, that’s not the time or the place, I’m a very positive optimistic person. But then that’s kind of my my default. But when I’m feeling something that’s not positive and happy, that doesn’t, that doesn’t, that’s not bad. That doesn’t mean you’re bringing bad things into your life, you’re attracting bad things, that doesn’t mean you’re gonna get sick. It doesn’t mean it’s just means you’re a human. And we cannot sugarcoat being a human. And we cannot, you know, we can’t put a smile on our face over every that’s going back to pushing things down. So yeah, if you’ve got this grease, and you’re trying to like pile on positivity with it, that might work acutely for like, a minute or two. Right, right. And guess what the grief was still there. Yeah. So it is about just yeah, like, I’m grieving. And that’s where you are, and it’s okay. It’s allowing that grief to move through and do whatever it needs to do. And if one day you’re crying, and then the next day, you feel like you need to go for a walk. And then it’s just this is how grief is processing through my body. And if we put this fake Stepford wife thing over top of it, it’s never going anywhere, it’s going to stay and it’s going to fester. It’s going to create disease in our body, it’s going to create all these trapped emotions, and it’s never going to go away. And we’re not going to be able to, you know, trust ourselves, we’re not going to be able to see clearly we’re not going to be able to, you know, be connected to her intuition because all this grief is of all stuck ever. And so there’s a there’s absolutely a time for positivity. But as a bandaid, it does not work.

Dr. Mindy
Yeah, amazing. That was so well said. So where does Emotion Code work look different from therapy. Like how is how do those look different?

Megan Buer
So I always tell people, there is a time and a place for both. Talk therapy works just on the cognitive level. So it stops here. Now that’s a big part of our experience. I’m not I never say I never discourage people from not going to therapy. I think they’re He’s great.

But there is a wall that you hit, where there’s a lot going on in our bodies and our minds that go beyond just the thinking brain. We’re 95% subconscious. So a lot of times people will go to therapy, and I have so many clients, same story. You know, I’ve been in therapy for 10 years, and I’ve been able to get over things in two sessions with you that I’ve been working on for 10 years. Like I know, because it’s there, it stopped the subconscious. Yeah. So again, if you’re looking at stuff from your childhood and stuff that you know, maybe repressed memory, things you can’t even sit and talk about, because I could sit here all day and say, Well, I think my anxiety is because of XY and Z. And I could talk about it for the next three years. But maybe it’s not because of XY and Z, maybe it’s because of a, b, and c. And so you know, and until we work on that subconscious level, there’s we’re not getting anywhere. So it’s getting the conscious because the body knows exactly what it needs. Exactly what it needs to release, and the body knows exactly why that anxiety is there. Why that depression is there. And again, like your acute grief from being an empty nester, there’s nothing to fix there. That’s not no, there was nothing to fix for sure. But when we’ve got this chronic long term anxiety that doesn’t go away, there’s something subconsciously they’re triggering you. And that’s where subconscious work is just as you know, it’s very, very helpful. And so I they’re very different, right kind of work in tandem, in a way. Is

Dr. Mindy
it more like hypnotherapy sort of visualization? How do you access is muscle testing? How do you access the body where the emotions are and what they are.

Megan Buer
So I do muscle testing. That’s how I do everything. I do it all remotely. I test people. So at the beginning of my session, I tune in energetically to my client’s body and their system and I just muscle test on myself for them. And so we muscle past and we clear trapped emotions, we can clear all sorts of physical things like toxins, misalignments, all sorts of stuff. And then I also like to do a lot of testing for food intolerances, food allergies, supplements, because most everybody that comes to me is a woman who is on some sort of health journey, and, and they have been searching for answers. And the body has the answers. And I just am able to tune into that and tell them, Hey, your body is really wanting sweet potatoes or your body really doesn’t want this thing or that. And so it’s it’s muscle testing and a lot of my own intuition that goes into it.

Dr. Mindy
And is it like where, you know, after you’ve had a couple of sessions with with a woman. Now you’ve reflected you’ve we’ve you’ve cleared energy, you’ve reflected back what they may want to lean into one of my my challenges with therapy just in general, as you have to keep going over and over and over again. And one of my beliefs about the body is that the body is so perfect, and it heals itself. So is this Can you look at it like you look down at your car, and there’s just a lot of dust and dirt on the top of the car, it’s time to wash the car. And then the car is clean for a little while until you have to wash it again. Is that how emotion stored emotions work?

Megan Buer
So yeah, I always tell people this is not a life sentence. And if it was, I wouldn’t be doing my job right? Is it can heal itself. Now what I’m doing it’s so if you fall down and scrape your knee and you don’t, you don’t clear it out. You put a bandaid on, like it’s gonna get infected and gross my job. That’s what happens. Those are trapped emotions. My job is to go in and clean the wound. And then then your body does when you go right yeah, so it’s not my job to heal you, it’s my job to get the shit out of the way that is keeping you stuck from healing, it’s keeping your body biochemically stuck in fight or flight. And once that stuff is out of the way, once we clear that wound, the body knows exactly how to heal inside outside every side. So it’s not we don’t have to it’s not this ongoing, long process. A lot of times what my clients do is we have kind of like a an upfront, you know, depending on three to five sessions to kind of just depending on where you’re at what you need to work on. So we kind of start with a few upfront, and then I just say, hey, let’s just give it some time and see how you feel. A lot of times at that point, people are done. They don’t need any more. And then other times, I have a lot of clients who like to do just like a monthly tune up session where you know, it is that sense of like, oh, the car got dirty again, like we’re living our life and we’re feeling stressed come up and, you know, hey, something traumatic happened. Can you help me? You know, and so I have clients that come back as need or just come back every month or two, just to kind of clear everything off and keep them feeling balanced. So it’s not an ongoing, you know, ated kind of thing, you know, which,

Dr. Mindy
which I think is brilliant because the body heals itself. And that if there’s one thing I’ll go to my grave saying over and over again is the body’s perfect. And when when we don’t feel like we’re living in a perfect body, it’s really an interference that is stopping that. So and then I’m also thinking about how emotions are stuck in the cells. That was Bruce Lipton’s work, right, so I’m curious if people’s natural healthy habits there are already doing work better. Because you clear the emotions now that same supplement is going to be more effective for you. One of the things I preach in fasting is that with fasting, you’re getting rid of old senescent cells. So you’re getting rid of the traumatized cells. But if the thought pattern is still there, you’re gonna keep making more traumatized cells. So so when you’re working with somebody, you’re working on the past traumas that got stuffed, but then are you giving ideas on how to make sure we don’t keep stuffing?

Megan Buer
Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah. So I created an online course called rooted in health. And that’s where that talks about, that’s kind of what I give my new clients. As far as like, I’m going to do the subconscious work, here’s the work, the conscious work for you to do. And that’s kind of the therapy, emotion coat therapy differences. Here’s the things you can do day to day, I’m going to work on that subconscious level. And that’s kind of where you know where I give them the tools for that. And yes, the body and I mean, exactly what you said, the body is perfect, the body knows exactly what to do. Sometimes we just get, we get a little muddled. And the more that we can clear things out of those cells, if it’s motions, if it’s toxins, if it’s whatever, the body can come back to this natural state of being. And it’s so beautiful to witness someone being in this place of being stuck and being overwhelmed and stressed and you know, confused and all of it, and then clearing some of the stuff out and all of a sudden there them again, and it’s just, you know, I mean, I’m sure you see this, too. It’s just beautiful. Oh, yeah, I

Dr. Mindy
mean, it’s, that’s what I again, I go back to what I love about fasting is that it’s free. And anybody can learn to do it. And it has this cleansing experience. But the part that most people don’t realize is that those emotions are in the cells, as well. So as you’re cleansing them out, but I also after watching so many women heal their hormones, that there’s patterns of thought their stories we’ve created in our heads, there’s emotions we’ve put down I love what you said about us being so empathetic. And I really think we want to highlight that that’s part of our superpower. And yet we are in this world that that has we have to we’ve conformed to. So do you feel like if we look at the direction that women can really thrive in? Is there going to be this emotional range of high and low as women start to express themselves more? And how do we tell the people around us that this is completely normal? This is part of my healing journey?

Megan Buer
Um, that’s a great question. I think, yeah, I think as women, we naturally have these highs and lows. And there is nothing wrong with it. And to make sure that our partners and our families are on board with understanding that and supporting that, you know, that’s the best way that we can thrive. And we know as the women and the mothers in these homes, we know that we are the ones setting the vibe for the whole place. Right. Amen. Amen. If we’re off, everybody’s off, amen, though, yeah, the best way to support ourselves is to make sure that they all know, Hey, Mom needs to rest. Mom needs help with the dishes today, mom needs help, you know, whatever. Because and everybody’s going to benefit from that. And yeah, it’s it’s okay to not feel 100% all day every day. And I think that wellness culture has created this fake story in our minds of, well, if I just cut out gluten, then I’m going to feel like a million bucks all day every day. And that’s bullshit. It’s absolute bullshit. Food is great. All supplements are great, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but like, it is really about getting back to your authentic selves, honoring your cycles honoring those ebbs and flows, acknowledging and honoring what we’re feeling and giving ourselves what we need, whatever that means, you know, not Not holding ourselves to this standard of I need to be doing HIIT workouts every day. And I need to be doing this every day and this every day. And I should, you know, work on these clients and finishing this and blown by how should be perfect and everything? No like then Wow. All right.

Dr. Mindy
Right. But that’s all. I mean, I really hope you people listening, you know, I hope this gives us an excuse to be perfectly imperfect, you know, because the the female body, and hormones are there to motivate us and retract us, for us to feel euphoria and to feel sadness. And this is the beautiful part of the woman experience. And I love living in a female body, because I can have all of this whole spectrum. But our culture has put us into a little box. So I just adore what you’re doing. And have you? Are you seeing any changes like on hormonal tests? I’d love to take a woman who’s like having hormonal struggles, have them work with you, and then do another hormone test and see what changes.

Megan Buer
So well. The only one that I’ve been able to do is my own. Yeah. Oh, he was

Dr. Mindy
maybe we should do me. You that because I just didn’t want to go ahead.

Megan Buer
Yeah. So. So I was a patient of Zack Bush’s 1215 years ago. And we were at this crossroads where my, like, we couldn’t make something was going on. I wasn’t feeling right. We were trying all these things. My thyroid labs were not normal. But we were like, we could not we could not no matter what we tried, we could not get them within normal range. And then I started working with an Emotion Code practitioner. And I went back to Zack, and I was like, Zach, I feel better. Like, I don’t know what this thing is. It’s weird, but like, I feel better. And he’s like, Okay, we got to figure out because he was just a stumped as I was trying to figure out how to help. And so, you know, we worked together and we started, we started running labs within six weeks to my labs were normal. And he was just like, this is, you know, you got to learn how to do this. I’m like, okay,

Dr. Mindy
so great. Um, yeah, so

Megan Buer
it was, you know, for me, it’s, if I can keep myself in a place of honoring myself, of keeping myself balanced emotionally, then my hormones stay in balance, if I honor what I need, and if that’s rest today, and I hit workout tomorrow, or, you know, I feel really good today. And I feel really sad tomorrow. And all of it’s okay, and I allow myself, I just allow myself to be who I am, that everything stays in balance. And one other thing I just wanted to mention was, you know, this, going back to that, that idea of carrying these stories in ourselves, and these these thoughts, these negative belief systems, the biggest thing that I have found in myself, and in my practice, is that women carry these stories of there’s something wrong with me. Yeah. And that is the thing that affects us so deeply on that cellular level, where if we really believe that deep down in ourselves, then our physical, mental emotional bodies are going to express that somehow. And we are going to stay stuck in cycles of always, always needing to be fixed, always needing someone else to fix us always needing to change our diet, always needing to change our workout routine, always needing to, you know, and that’s that is that cycle that we need to get out of as women is thinking that because I’m tired today, or because I’m anxious today, there’s something wrong with Right, right. They’re not right, nothing with you. And it’s changing that belief system, to there’s nothing wrong with me. And then we realize we’re okay. And we’re not wasting $1,000 a month on useless supplements and we’re not you know, and we can actually tune back into who we really are, and live from that place and not live from this place of constant you know, trying to better ourselves, but from a really easy way.

Dr. Mindy
Oh my god, I love that and I also feel so empowered in this self healing ability of our body. And what I hear you say is remove the interference and the Emotion Code is a huge part of removing the traumatic interference so and and you know, this is everybody’s health is a puzzle, right? We’ve got to put it all together. So it’s, this is a missing piece that I see for so many women so I I appreciate you geeking out on me. We didn’t even get to talk about nature and the healing power of nature. Right before I ask you my Final question where does Where does nature fit into the woman’s cycle into a woman? trauma? Let’s just go there.

Megan Buer
Well, we are nature. So that that is what it is. Right? So Oh, yeah, yeah. So you know, another beautiful example I always tell people is like, if you look at a tree, and it is there, you’re plopped onto Earth, there’s one tree, you’ve never seen a tree before, we have no idea what’s going on, you’re gonna see that tree goes through the cycle of nature through spring, summer, fall and winter, when fall and winter hit, you’re gonna think that tree is dying, you’re gonna think something’s wrong with this tree, I’m gonna throw and what are you gonna do, you’re gonna throw green juice on it, you’re gonna throw, you know, fish oil on it, you’re gonna throw like, oh my gosh, this tree is dying, there’s something wrong with it. And then in spring, that tree looks like it’s coming back to life. And it’s like, Oh, thank goodness, I threw that green juice on it. When in reality, this is just the cycle of nature week, we have a way that we don’t need to, we can’t control that. We have no control over that. We don’t, we don’t make the tree. Rebirth itself in spring, it just does that. And we are as women, I mean, all of us, but specifically women, we are a part of that cycle. And so if you are in winter, right now, there’s nothing wrong, right? There’s no and there’s nothing you can do. And there’s nothing you can do, you have to just, you have to enjoy it, you have to embrace it. Like if you want that to be if you want your winter, to be a better experience, you just have to embrace it, you know, like put on your warm coat and get cozy because it’s wintertime, and spring is coming spring always comes. And I think that’s, that’s just we’ve forgotten that and we get into these cycles of winter, if that’s just our monthly cycle, or a cycle of grief or a cycle of depression or sadness or whatever. And we think oh my gosh, this is it. I’m dying, it’s never gonna go away. And then we throw all this stuff on it, like we can throw it a tree. And you know, it’s we’re going to heal and we’re going to rebirth when it’s time, no matter how much we throw at it.

Dr. Mindy
Well, I, I, I love I love that analogy. And I gotta tell you that I really dream of, of a world where women have more conversations like this and that we give ourselves permission to be in that winter. And then we have to train or the world how to deal with us in winter. And we’re seeing glimmers of it. I don’t know if you know that the Spain has just did a country wide menstrual leave that women Yeah, three days out of out of the month and they can decide what and no questions asked. They can just say when they need to leave. We’re also seeing evidence of it in the workplace. There’s a lot of discussion around menopause in the workplace and how women going through menopause need some extra mental support as because you miss your you’re taking all those hormones away. So I just say all that Megan to say conversations like this and the work like you’re doing this is going to transform women’s health. So I just your words have hit really hard hit really well on my heart and I love what you’re up to.

Megan Buer
Thank you so much.

Dr. Mindy
So and then let me finish with this this question. So you know, when we started 2220 22 I don’t even know what year we’re in anymore. I felt like we came off two years of us just bitching and moaning about the world. And we all lost sight of gratitude. So I made this year this the theme of this season gratitude. So do you have a gratitude practice? If so, what is it and what are you grateful for in this year 2022

Megan Buer
So I have a much more

you know, day to day gratitude practice years ago and kind of what I like to do now is every evening at dinner with the kids we just sit down we go around we talk about our day and we try to talk about something that we’re grateful for. And and I think it’s a I think that’s so that’s such a great thing to do oh yeah, for ourselves but also for our kids to to just to help that perspective shift. You know, especially in this day and age we can we start to just numb out to how great we really have it. Yeah. The thing I am grateful for as I’m getting married this year, so

I almost husband, that’s amazing.

Dr. Mindy
That’s amazing. I love that. So where did where do people find you Megan I have a feeling we’ve probably stirred a lot of thought process and thoughts going on and women in our community. So how do people find you?

Megan Buer
Yep, so I’m on Instagram at Harmony restored. My website is just harmony dash restore.com I also have a nonprofit camp nature camp for autistic children. That website is guiding arrow camp.wordpress.com. And you can reach out to me in any of those avenues.

Dr. Mindy
Amazing. Amazing. Well thank you for this conversation and let’s keep having it. Let’s keep bringing this kind of level of communication amongst women and then the more we understand ourselves, the more we can teach people how to take amazing care of us. So thank you, Megan. So appreciate you