“Be Grateful”
This episode is all about the power of epigenetics, how to clean our genes, and the tools we can use to reach our gentic potential.
Dr. Ben Lynch is the best-selling author of Dirty Genes and President of Seeking Health, a company that helps educate both the public and health professionals on how to overcome genetic dysfunction. He received his doctorate in naturopathic medicine from Bastyr University. He lives in Seattle, WA with his wife and three sons.
In this podcast, How To Reach Your Genetic Potential, we cover:
- How genetic counseling is currently being utilized in society
- The ways that Dr. Ben likes to look at genes to change our lifestyle
- The dynamic aspect of our genetic potential
- How the environment is affecting our genes
- About methylation and the importance of creatine and phosphatidylcholine
- The importance of fasting for our genes
- How to shift our microbiome and improve our gut health
The Field of Genetics
Dr. Ben says there are many heavy things out there, so we need to understand how genetics work. Genetic counselors look at disease-causing genetic variations. The field of genetics is everywhere, and it should be utilized. Genetic testing is essential for prescribing certain medications. For instance, someone might metabolize Warfarin very slow. If someone gets prescribed this, they can bleed out and die quickly if they don’t do genetic testing. Genetic testing should be done before getting prescribed Warfarin.
Genetic testing can also be utilized in family planning. That way, families can see what the odds are of passing on certain conditions. Sadly, Dr. Ben says that this is very defeating. People can go into pregnancy with fear instead of love, empowerment, and excitement. Unfortunately, when someone is scared, it’s not good for the womb.
Improving The Function of Our Genes
Next, Dr. Ben says that he likes to look at genetic variations that are extremely common in the population. When you try and optimize health for someone, you can let them know which genes they have. Then, you can take targeted specific actions and make lifestyle changes knowingly to improve particular genes’ functioning. Overall, the work that Dr. Ben does is empowering, not scary!
Some genes are programmed, and they are done. For instance, your skin color, eye color, and hair color are set – that’s it, and that gene is not going to change. While on the other hand, what you can change are your neurotransmitters. You can change your immune system by supporting it or suppressing it using your diet, mood, and environment. When you are exposed to chemicals or alcohol, your liver enzymes will elevate because they are being upregulated due to inflammation or trauma.
How The Environment Affects Our Genetic Potential
Then, Dr. Ben talks about his love for environmental medicine. The environment can impact you and your genes and your genetic potential. If it’s affecting your genes, they won’t be able to function well, and they can’t do their jobs. When your genes can’t do their jobs, then you will experience symptoms. So, we need to minimize our exposure. Avoidance is the best way to ensure the environment does not impact your genes.
About Methylation
Methylation is the process in which methyl groups are added to the DNA molecule. For example, serotonin methylated becomes melatonin. 70% of methylation is used up to make creatine and phosphatidylcholine using meat and eggs. What about vegetarians? They do not grow their creatine and phosphatidylcholine– they have to make it. Being a vegetarian can be appropriately done by adding supplements.
How Fasting Will Affect Our Genetic Potential
There are supplements out there called NAD (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide). When you fast or exercise, your NAD will increase. NADH is the opposite. When you eat glucose, it becomes NADH. The mitochondria will take NADH and burn it to become ATP. When you have too much NADH from overeating and soda, NADH will be at a high-level. Your body has to do something with the NADH. So, your body has alternative routes to deal with it. Excessive glucose creates compounds that are extremely reactive and dangerous. That’s why people with diabetes will have heart attacks.
When you fast, you burn NADH, and you are reducing the excess NADH. That way, your glucose can funnel normally instead of the highly-reactive pathways. Some genes increase inflammation. If you are inflamed and trying to fast, your ability to mobilize, transport, and burn fat will be significantly reduced. If you are struggling with inflammation, fasting will be challenging and ineffective. People can use glutathione to supplement and assist with their fast.
Tune in as Dr. Ben reviews Dr. Mindy’s genetic analysis; plus, Dr.Ben reveals his favorite gene and the best lifestyle tools to biohack your genetic potential.
How To Reach Your Genetic Potential – With Ben Lynch
Dr. Ben Lynch: [00:00:00] What people do not talk about is if you have too much, NADH from not fasting from eating excessively snacking all the time, overeating not moving, you know, drinking soda, your body has all that sugar. Remember sugar makes glucose makes NADH. So if glucose cannot become NADH, where’s it going to go
[00:00:27] on a mission that is dedicated to teaching you just how powerful your body was built to be? I like to do that by bringing you the latest science, the greatest thought leaders and applicable steps that help you tap into your own internal healing power. The purpose of this podcast is to give you the power back and help you believe in yourself. [00:00:48] Again. My name is Dr. Mindy Pelz. And I want to thank you for spending part of your day with me. Okay. Recenters on this episode of the resetter podcast, we have Dr. Ben Lynch, and if you’re not familiar with Dr. Ben Lynch, he’s written a book called dirty genes, and he is one of the leading experts on epigenetics. [00:01:11] Epigenetics is the study of how we can use our lifestyle to. Overcome our genetic profile. And it’s fascinating. And what you’re going to learn in this episode is the nutrients, the toxins, the lifestyle behaviors that we need to add in or avoid in order to be able to turn genes on and turn genes off. [00:01:36] And one of the fascinating things that we discuss in this episode, Is, he actually looks at my genetic profile. He has a test called a strategy and the strategy will look at functional genes and he showed me how I actually, my genetics helps me make dopamine very quickly, which is very excited. Tory, anybody who knows me thinks this is pretty hysterical, but. [00:02:00] What he said is that I don’t have the gene to be able to get rid of dopamine, which affects me in the way that I can’t always calm myself down, which also people who know me find hysterical. So here we talk about the nutrients that you can take to affect those genes, the lifestyle behaviors, what you need to avoid. [00:02:22] This is an incredible episode. Dr. Ben Lynch. If you want to know how to overcome your genes, this is the episode for you. What I find fascinating about your book is the agouti mouse story, because that really caught my attention as well. Now you took the agouti mouse study and you transformed what you, your career and what you looked at. [00:02:46] So, um, can we talk, let’s start with why that study was so pivotal. Um, prior to that, the only person I’d ever heard talk about epigenetics was Bruce Lipton. Yeah. So let’s bring our recenters up into what the heck the agouti mouse study was. And why did that change our opinion on genetics? Yeah, you’re you’re, you’re absolutely right. [00:03:09] And, and so, you know, we, we grew up with the belief that family history was a big, big deal. And it is, um, you know, you’re, you’re told that your grandpa was an alcoholic and you know, I’m an alcoholic and now you’re going to be an alcoholic and, you know, so-and-so died of breast cancer. And so did your aunt and so to your, you know, your great-grandma and so you were thinking, okay, well, what am I next? [00:03:34] And so all this mindset around genetics is what we all thought. And, um, my first quarter, First year in med school, I was introduced to Dr. Bruce Lipton’s work and I never sit in the front row in the class, but that was the day where I just sat glued to that TV. And it was, it was a primer for me about how our perception of the environment influences how our genes turn on and off. [00:04:02] And I was just like, Whoa, but it was, it was Whoa and it made sense, but it didn’t really stick home. Um, cause he just talked about it generally when Dana talks about it and her Nova, um, one her research that was presented on Nova, she said she basically took goody mice, which were genetically susceptible and programmed for. [00:04:28] Cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cancer. I mean, they are genetically built to get these things. So researchers could then, you know, do treatments to see which drugs, support diabetes, which drugs supports cancer and so on. So they’re, they’re built for big pharma to do their research on and which is great. [00:04:48] And Dana had a thought, she goes, well, All right. They’re genetically primed for going into these things. These three major, uh, health problems, the whole world struggles with how about I just change their feed their nutrient and see if they go on through life and get those things. Once you’ve presented it to the, to the main researcher, the head of researcher, he was like, yeah, sure. [00:05:14] Whatever. And, and so she added some full aid, some B12 and some other in some, maybe some Coleen and some other things. And these mice went on to not get cardiovascular disease, diabetes, or cancer. And it was like, what’s your, your, your program to have these three things. Or one of these three things at least. [00:05:37] And they went on to get none of them. And at the end of that video, uh, that I saw from Nova, you can Google a tale of two mice Nova, and you’ll still see it. Um, it’s still good. Um, and, uh, she goes, well, it’s too early to tell what to do with this information. And we don’t have the drugs necessary yet to support this type of technology. [00:06:00] And I was like, what are you talking about? All you did was introduced nutrients. That’s it. You did the work already, Diana. Um, so I’ve tried getting her on, interviewing her multiple times and I can’t, you know, why do you think that is? I don’t know. I don’t know. Maybe, um, you know, I’m just guessing here, you know, maybe she’s, you know, she, even though she used nutrition, She can’t believe that nutrition is that powerful. [00:06:32] Maybe she doesn’t understand the nutrition components behind it, but as she does to some degree, um, you know, I don’t know, maybe it’s time, maybe she’s moved on from that study. Maybe there’s conflict within the lab or the research. And she can’t talk about it. Who knows I can theorize you think there is a big pharma piece to that because if we have a genetic predisposition for something and we get put on and we’re getting scared and told that we’re going to get this, we’re more motivated to get on meds. [00:07:05] Yeah. Change our life. And then who, who funds a lot of these studies? Yeah. Right. And so honestly that was the first thought that came into my mind. I just didn’t say it. Yeah, no, it’s okay. It’s I think it’s, it’s really important to put that out because it was a phenomenal study. And if she’s shy, there’s my guess is there’s a, there’s a financial reason there. [00:07:25] Yeah. And it, who knows, you know, who knows, but you know, big pharma is a player. And everything that we’re doing these days, unfortunately. Uh, you know, so, yeah, so, okay. So out of that study, so that at that point, that was like 2007, 2006 talking 13 years ago. So we had Bruce Lipton saying that our thoughts. [00:07:48] Would change our genes. And then we had that study saying your nutrition can change our genes. So what have we learned since that time? Like how, how do we look at genetics? And when I say we, I probably should separate out that, you know, the natural healing world and the pharmaceutical healing world are looking at this quite differently. [00:08:10] Yeah, I am very fond of my work is extremely frowned upon by a, I think it’s called ACM G or something, the American college of medical geneticists, or genetic counselors or whatever they’re called. Um, and, uh, no disrespect to, to their work. I mean, you, you need to have genetic counselors for genes, like, you know, cystic fibrosis and Down’s syndrome. [00:08:33] And. And, um, you know, celiac disease and hemochromatosis and, and on and on, you know, there’s a lot of heavy things out there that you need to understand how the genes are working in for disease, causative, genetic. No mutations. Right. And down syndrome is a touchy situation to talk about, you know, cause down syndrome, kids and adults can do very well in life. [00:09:02] Um, you know, most all populations who are born with certain genetic serious conditions can actually do very well. As long as the rest of their genes are clean and functioning. Um, it’s just, you know, they’re very, very susceptible. Um, so genetic counselors have their job, but genetic counselors look at. [00:09:19] Genetic variations or mutations that are disease causing period. They look at MTHFR, uh, or nos three or COMT or Dal or any other gene that I look at as insignificant because they are not associated with specific diseases. No, they associate BRACA one as a breast cancer gene. I don’t look at BRACA one like that. [00:09:47] I look at BRACA. One is not being able to do his job as a, as a, you know, as a sensor for damage and then triggering nerve two and other glutathione genes to, to step up and protect against damage. You know, they just look at it as breast cancer related. So this whole field of genetics. Is everywhere. It’s drug pharmacokinetics. [00:10:13] If someone is given warfarin in a hospital for an acute situation, their ability to metabolize warfarin might be very slow. And so if they give a standard amount of warfare into someone’s warfarin metabolism being very slow. They can bleed out and die quickly. And that just happened to a friend of mine, his grandmother, they didn’t do genetic testing on warfarin, prescribed warfarin. [00:10:38] She bled out. Wow. You know, so that is something that should be done before warfarin has ever prescribed to any patient doing warfarin studies on pharmacokinetics. Then you have, um, genetic counseling and, and family planning kind of screening for before you even get pregnant, you know, for the future mother and future father, to look at the sperm and the egg and see which you know, or just their general genetics. [00:11:06] To see if they’re going to, you know, what are the odds of them passing on cystic fibrosis or hemochromatosis or whatever else? That to me is very defeating because if your odds are one in a million to get cystic fibrosis or one in 50,000, you know, you still can not do anything to prevent that. So now you’re going to an in pregnancy with fear instead of, you know, love and empowerment and excitement and nurturing your, your entire pregnancy. [00:11:34] You’re scared. And that’s not good for the wound. So then you have, you know, folks like me who are looking at genetic variations that are extremely common in the population that have known functional consequences of adjusting how that gene functions making it either fat function faster or function slower, but they’re not known to cause disease, but they are known to affect the function of the gene, which can either increase or decrease susceptibility in various conditions. [00:12:03] And if you do that, When you’re really trying to optimize the health of someone or someone is really struggling their whole life or, or, you know, later on when you know which genes you have, which are modifying or modified in their, how they express due to various things, you can take targeted, targeted specific actions and make lifestyle changes. [00:12:25] Food changes, supplement changes, medication changes knowingly, no guessing knowingly to improve the function of those particular genes. And it works and it’s phenomenal. It sounds to me like the way we look at labs, you know, if you walk into your medical doctor, they either are healthy or you have disease. [00:12:45] There’s no, in-between correct. Right. So what I’m hearing is that you’ve taken gene and the understanding of genes, and you’re in that FA it’s like functional genes. You’re in the mix in that area of how do we use it to change our life? Exactly. It’s empowering. The work that I do is empowering. Yeah. It’s it shouldn’t be scary. [00:13:08] I mean, people are going to be scared when they run their genetics, because that’s just, there’s a lot of fear associated with that. And, uh, it’s perpetuated because most genetic reports are perpetuating that even though they maybe don’t even mean to, I think some don’t mean to, um, but it’s just, when you see elaborate, you know, usually next report come back with red and it’s plus plus, so that means you have genetic variation. [00:13:30] It’s red. Yeah. Scary. Right. So we’ve, we’ve thrown that concept out the window. You know, we don’t color genetic variance red anymore. Right. We still have, plus plus if it’s present because that’s the scientific notation for a variant, but the color red means danger, fear broken, and you immediately want to say, well, I want to fix that. [00:13:51] Well, it might not even need fixing, but you need to know ultimately about a genetic variant, which is basically not commonly found in the population. As at least in terms of the amount of prevalence of not having that variation, meaning that if I have a genetic variation, my interest of our gene, maybe only 20% of my ancestors have that. [00:14:13] Right. So it’s not common is as common as not having that variant. So they’re common variations, which affect the function of the gene in terms of what it does, its job that does. But it’s not disease directly causing yeah. That’s mind blowing. Yeah. And that paradigm shift major paradigm shift, because what happens there earlier, you do it the faster, you can understand how you’re wired. [00:14:44] It’s like, imagine if you were born into a, your car and you could never see the outside of your car. And, but you, you heard from other people, you could talk to other drivers of cars, how they’re doing. And some people go and now in roads and they cross streams and they can, you know, go over big boulders and they never get stuck. [00:15:08] And you’re like, Oh, that sounds fun. And you go try to do that. You get stuck instantly. You’re like, what the hell? You’re having so much fun. I’m stuck in the mud. Well, you drive an old Volkswagen beetle, you know, and they’re driving this monster Hummer. But you have no idea what your genes are because no one showed them to you before. [00:15:26] So are you a Hummer or are you a Volkswagen beetle? Both are fine, but you just have to know what terrain you should be driving in and how you should be driving. Oh, my gosh. I love that. And would you say, and we’re going to dive into like some of the things that clean jeans and make them dirty. But one of my big passions is teaching people how to find the right diet for them or find the right fast because we become zealots for I’m a vegan I’m Akido. [00:15:53] I’m a, this and I, I don’t believe the human body works like that. I think we all have our, our perfect diet at different times. Is that because of genes? Is that because our genetics are different? Um, yes, but it’s also, our environment is different. Our occupations are different. Um, our nutrient, uh, you know, densities are different. [00:16:20] Our microbiomes are different. Our pregnancies, you know, are, were when we were in our mother’s womb. That was a different experience. Um, so it’s all together. So most genetic testing looks at genetics. Boom done. And the problem with that is it’s extremely reductionist. I mean, it’s reductionist to the nth degree. [00:16:44] Yeah. Especially since you’re looking at genetics and then you’re looking at each gene and singularity that is as extreme as reductionism as you get. So why would I as a naturopathic physician who believes in holistic, you know, in the, you know, treat the individual or support the individual, not treat support? [00:17:03] Why would I look at genetics? Because I look at how genes work. Together, holistically together. How genes communicate with each other and in group, like in a group of 20 even genes, that’s why strategy is so complicated for a lot of people, including me and me, what I got set my report. I’m like, what? So I’m excited to hear what you have to say about it. [00:17:26] Yeah. But it’s, it’s, you know, right now it’s getting cold outside. I eat differently. I act differently and the sun is lower in the sky, you know, and in the summer I’m more active. I’m moving more and burning more calories. It’s hot. I’m sweating. Sun is higher in the sky. You know, my activity level, my environment, the pollution levels, you know, everything. [00:17:48] My heater is on the whole now where it wasn’t before. So now I forced air that’s fueled by gas, not ideal, but there you are. Um, so furnace, gas, furnace. You know, and I’m more sedentary because it’s dark outside and I’m not going to, you know, anyway. So it changes your environment, changes your gene expression changes and your, and your demand for fuel changes. [00:18:18] So, you know, if you think about how you drive your car again, car examples are you used all the time and they seem kind of stupid, but they’re so easy. Cause they’re relatable. You know, if you, if you’re driving in traffic and you’re starting and stopping all the time, you’re going to wear your brakes out quicker and you’re going to your fuel efficiency is going to go down because you’re starting a car that has higher friction and higher mass to start moving. [00:18:41] But if you’re driving on a freeway from, you know, a hundred miles and you’re like, ah, why did I get 40 miles a gallon where I’m in the city? I got 15. Well, you’re way more efficient. You you’ve got Pat, you moved off that initial friction and motion. You now carrying it as just easy. Now it’s maintaining. [00:18:59] If you are bumping your head against the wall mentally every day with your coworkers who drive you nuts, your bosses, punk constantly micromanaging. You. You come home to kids who you’ve enabled for 12 years to do everything for them. And now they’re 18 and they still can’t do anything. Parents, listen up all your kids. [00:19:21] Yes. You know, and then you’re stuck in traffic and you’re sucking down carbon monoxide people cut you off and you get a ticket, you know, for being on your cell phone because you’re sucking traffic. You want to be productive, you know, and then you get in a car wreck to boot. That’s a bad day. Your genes have been saturated. [00:19:40] Now compare that to a day. That’s sitting on the beach in Hawaii or Maui people bringing you fresh squeezed Asya Berry, guava, mangoes, whatever to toot your horn. The ocean is warm. You’re just laying in the sun, not burning. Nice, quiet breeze, nobody around watching the birds. Your genes are at rest. [00:20:05] They’re not even working. Really. They’re just keeping your heart pumping and your air moving. And, um, you know, it’s a, it’s a different experience. So what do you eat then? And what do you have to do? I rarely take supplements when I go on vacation. Ah, interesting. Because your stress levels are so significantly different. [00:20:24] Yeah. And I will share something also is all three of our children were conceived on vacation. Oh, interesting. Does that make them superior? Yeah. Potential mothers out there or parents listen up. Here’s the secret. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s, uh, it was whoops one, whoops two and whoops three, but, um, you know, I’m a very happy, uh, proud father. [00:20:52] Um, and, uh, but it’s. You know, our jeans were cleaner. It was a more calm environment. You know, her womb was not under duress or stress and she wasn’t dealing with work or travel or, or me in a negative way. It was, you know, we’re relaxing together. We’re in a clean environment and, and, uh, it was fun. So do jeans. [00:21:13] I always looked at them as they turn on and off. And when I read your book, I love this idea of they’re clean or they’re dirty. So in that example, do you do jeans, like, do we trigger them and they get expressed or does that happen? Like, and then they get turned off. Like, are they dynamic like that? Yes. A hundred percent. [00:21:34] Not all of them. I mean, you know, our hair color set our skin color set. No. Um, so these things are programmed done. So those genes did their job. And now they’re from my understanding, which is really rudimentary on skin, color and hair, color, and eye color. But those happen very early, early, early, and then when it happens, you’re just, that’s it, you know, that gene is not changing. [00:21:58] It’s not dynamic. It’s just. Brown hair, Hazel eyes done. And, uh, you can’t change that. So, but what you can change is your neuro-transmitters. You know how they’re produced, how they’re, how they’re eliminated, how they’re transported. Um, you can change, uh, your immune system. You know, you can S you can really support it and increase it. [00:22:20] You can also really trash it and suppress it. Um, just from your mood, just from your diets, just from your environment. Um, and so when you’re exposed to. You know, initial formaldehyde or chemicals or alcohol, you’re going without a proxy dates and transfer exchange might spike because there’s a demand for it to initially increase. [00:22:43] So you would get an increase in liver enzymes as you see in your patient. And these liver enzymes on labs are elevated because those liver enzymes have upregulated. Due to inflammation or trauma or some chemical environment or exposure. And you see that in alcoholics, you see that in people with fatty liver and you see it in diabetics. [00:23:04] Well, those liver enzymes are elevated because those genes are working triple time and they have to produce more enzyme to deal with the total load. So you see it as a doctor all the time, but you just never tie elevated. GGT. To the GGT gene producing the GGT enzyme, because it was upregulated. It was turned on at a faster rate in order to deal with whatever it’s dealing with. [00:23:28] Right. And you have no idea that you can control it. You’re just told you’re just hiding it. And, and you’re told, you’re told certain things, you know, you know, a holistic or functional doc or health professional will look at that and say your GG is elevated. And, um, you know, we’ll put you on some liver support or cut down on your carbs or exercise more. [00:23:49] You know, or jumping on the sauna more, they’ll give you some recommendations, but they’ll, they’ll give these generic recommendations that they’ll fail to understand that those recommendations are reducing the burden overall, if chemical exposure and with reducing the burden of your liver, which is the reducing the workload on GGT, which is then reducing the, the genes necessary to go to work at overtime. [00:24:13] And so the gene levels go down. Interesting. So we need to start understanding at a genetic level, the actions that we take and the lab values that we see, like elevated homocysteine, you see high homocysteine and your patient comes back at 30. You’re like, Whoa. Okay. Well, Well, let’s put you on B6 B12 and some foliate Y those are the genes that help recycle homocysteine. [00:24:38] Well, all right. So somebody could take the CBC, they get from their doctor. Let’s just say their traditional doctor, and they can take a strategy test and they could figure out how to build a lifestyle that will make sure that they are changing those traditional markers on a CBC a hundred percent. Yeah. [00:24:59] Amazing. So why, why aren’t we doing that for everybody? Yeah. It’s it’s happening and it’s happening and that’s what I’ve been doing and teaching for years. And, but it’s, it’s flipping conventional models of medicine and even alternative metals of medical models of medicine on its head. Because if you go to a doctor for high homocysteine and conventional medicine, you know, they’ll just monitor it. [00:25:27] Maybe. Um, and because they don’t really understand, or maybe they’ll tell you to reduce your protein intake and, and that’s kind of it and stopped drinking and maybe that’s it. They don’t go to nutrition. They might look at anemias. They might look at, you know, full aid and B12, maybe the good ones. Um, and if you go to a functional doc, they’ll look at that and they’ll prescribe, they’ll prescribe a lower protein diets, um, you know, and possibly look at your kidney health and give you some nutrients and look at your anemias. [00:25:59] But nobody, very few people are looking at the genes that you’re born with to see which genes are really playing a role in homocysteine metabolism. And then which co-factors those particular enzymes need. So genes make enzymes and enzymes need nutrients in order to function a lot of them. And then once you understand which nutrients are needed and which genes are working slower or faster. [00:26:26] And at the same time, if a certain gene is slowed down from heavy metals or inflammation, and other genes are increased from heavy metals and increased from inflammation and you have that data and you understand that. You’re a particular gene for this is slower or faster. And then you also know that your labs, you have high homocysteine and low vitamin B2 and you’re anemic. [00:26:48] Then you look at the whole picture and you’re like, that makes so much sense. I’m going to reduce my inflammation. I’m going to increase my B12 and full late. And I’ve got the MTHFR genetic variant, which has slowed down by 70%. And I have this genetic variant and TCA TCN one reduces my ability to even move B12 out of my blood, into mysel. [00:27:10] So that explains why my B12 levels are so high in my blood, but yet I’m anemic. Fascinating. Um, when I first learned about MTHFR, I felt like people were walking around carrying it like a badge of honor, like, Oh, I have MTHFR. And that goes against everything I know about epigenetics is that it’s not a label. [00:27:30] We should be dynamically working with these. So explain to me a little bit of how this would tie into detox and a little bit of MTHFR and where that fits in. Yeah. So I’ll hit the heavy metal detox and culation first, um, you know, my, my passion is environmental medicine, so yeah, I, I love environmental medicine. [00:27:51] So the environmental medicine is basically looking at the environment and how it impacts you and how it, if it impacts you, it’s impacting your genes. And if it’s impacting your genes, it’s your genes. Aren’t able to function very well. And if the genes don’t function very well, they can’t do their jobs. [00:28:06] They can’t do their jobs. You get symptoms. And that impacts you. So if you remove these exposures that we have or minimize them, because we’re all going to get them. If you minimize your exposures, then your genes are able to function and your symptomatology goes down. Um, it’s imagining a glass filling up with formaldehyde, and then once it starts filling, you know, filling over the edge. [00:28:26] That’s when you start getting symptoms and you start adding formaldehyde and chlorine and arsenic and so on it’s you’re gonna fill it up quicker. Um, so avoidance is the first number one. Um, but glutathione genetics, it’s really interesting, you know, strategy, a DNA test has only been out for a couple of months. [00:28:44] If that Oh, wow. And, um, yeah, it’s, it’s brand new and, uh, years in the making years, it was so easy. I got to tell you that was so easy to do. Yeah. The spinning part is easy. [00:28:58] It was really easy. Yeah. Oh yeah. I came out with a tool. I was just talking with him on an interview today. I said, um, and the. Strategy and tests that I’ve so far looked at my wife’s, um, and, uh, about five, six other people’s, um, they’re glued with Island pathways are fascinating to look at and they tie so much into the troubles that they’ve been having. [00:29:25] Or the less troubles that they’re having now that does not mean that if you have, I have a more sluggish, dirty, or glutathione genes that you’re destined for life to be struggling, it could be less, you know, and you, you do the genetic tests and you find out where those problems are. Um, and then you can really understand why and pinpoint example, my wife has a really tough time producing glutathione. [00:29:50] Hmm. And then she has a diff difficult time utilizing glutathione, and then she has a tough time recycling it. And she also makes a plethora of reactive oxygen species and hydrogen peroxide. So here she is creating a bunch of reactive oxygen species in her body, which is good for fighting infections and stimulating immune system. [00:30:14] But then she has a really poor ability to produce glutathione, which helps modulate the immune system and calm it down and get rid of those reactive oxygen species. And she also has a reduced ability to get rid of arsenic and formaldehyde and chlorine, which dirties all her other genes. So it makes sense that she was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis at the young age of 17. [00:30:35] And, um, it all started from a viral exposure that she had when she was a kid. She got sick. Her immune system went nuts. And, uh, it never calmed down. So, and then she was an athlete. She was a really good sprinter, um, in the 400 meters hurdles in Astonia. She was very, very good, but exercise at high level is very pro oxydative and her ability to recover from ox from exercise is slow. [00:31:05] So if you’re exercising hard and you have a slow recovery, you better start listening to that. And you better start adjusting. And if you do a genetic report and your genetics and you start seeing, Oh, this explains so much, you can start modifying and doing some things. So I did an interview with, uh, Ben Greenfield years ago, and I went over his genetic report. [00:31:28] And, uh, he creates a lot of oxidative stress. Like it’s share this because we did it publicly already, but, um, you know, there’s moments where he has difficulty recovering and, um, his ability to generate oxygen stress is pretty high, but I, I want to see his new strategy because there’s a lot more genetic variance. [00:31:46] Um, on the new one than there was on the old ones. It’s a little bit about methylation. Cause I, the other interesting thing that I see emerging in the world is that people that are engaging in information like yours and mine are starting to understand the power of the mitochondria. They’re starting to understand the term methylation, but it’s almost like a little bit of knowledge could get is, is sometimes dangerous. [00:32:09] And, um, I I’m curious what your thoughts are on methylation, as far as the body’s ability to detox, where it comes into play with genetics, um, and where it comes into play with our health. Yeah, so a methylation. So any word that typically ends in the, in the, uh, I suck at English stuff at the, what is it? [00:32:31] The suffix, the end, um, ends in Asian defines an action, right? So you have methyl and methyl is basically the simplest carbon compound in the body. It’s a carbon and three hydrogen who cares and then, but it’s the action Asians. Methylation is the action of taking that enough, a group. And it will take it. [00:32:51] It’ll come off of one compound and it will jump onto another one. And so one compound will donate the methyl group and it will give it to a different one. And it wants it does that, that other compound now has a carbon on there who cares and three hydrogens. Well, it changes the function. It changes the shape. [00:33:10] And so it’s a lot different. And, um, so for example, serotonin. Skipping a step methylated becomes melatonin, right? Okay. Histamine methylated becomes methyl histamine homocysteine. When it goes through the act of methylation becomes Matheeney meth. You’re that meth binding. It should be actually called methyl homocysteine. [00:33:36] If they did it, it would have made so much more sense. The methylation cycle is, is it starts with the finding up here. Goes to the body’s primary methyl donor so that the content of the body, which gives methyl groups away the most is called Sammy. And you’ve heard of that as a supplement, probably as the dentist on the finding. [00:33:55] And Anthony is there, it is. And that works conjunction with ATP and magnesium. You hear S Dennis seal. Dennis seal, you know, Dennis seeing triphosphate is ATP, right? So there’s, there’s basically, uh, an ATP bound to a methylated methianine with magnesium. That’s like a super power in the methylation world. [00:34:18] And after that Sammy gets used up, but becomes homocysteine. And then it, it grabs on that homocysteine gets, it receives a methyl group from methyl cobalamin, vitamin B12 in conjunction with methylfolate, which comes from the fully pathway in MTHFR. And now that homocysteine is now methylated. And becomes methyl, homocysteine I E Bethenny, and goes back around and it just keeps spinning like that. [00:34:45] It just keeps regenerating. And so the primary consumers of that pathway is to form creating a fossil Coleen fossil calling is where all your send some membranes. Contained fossil calling it in large numbers. You also have a lot of phosphocholine in your bile for slipping through the sphincter of OT and through the bile duct and into your small intestine. [00:35:10] Um, so fast I’ll Coleen is really, really big. And creatine is really, really important for neuro development brain spinal cord, muscular movement coordination, speech. Um, so creatine is very, very key. And are those only supplements that you can get or is there ways to get those through diet and you definitely through diet your body makes them, so if 70% of your, your, that pathway called methylation is used up just to make creating a hostile Coleen and you, the primary sources for those are meats, eggs, um, uh, you know, fish, eggs. [00:35:47] As well, especially fish eggs. Um, and, uh, so those are great. Uh, liver is also good. Um, what if you’re a vegetarian, you wouldn’t. Yeah. If you’re a vegetarian, see, this is where vegetarianism, like these movies and documentaries that you see strained. I’d love to be interviewed for that, but I would destroy their whole theory, like, Oh yeah, I would just destroy it. [00:36:11] Um, and here’s why. So, if you are consuming, um, the precursors for creatine and phosphocholine, or even consuming them straight up and from the food that you eat, you don’t have to make them, right. It’s not even made. So it’s like, you know, if I come over to your house and we want to make a salad, And you’ve got in your backyard, romaine and tomatoes and all that cool stuff. [00:36:39] And I come with a bunch of lettuce and tomatoes and onions and whatever else from the store. And you’re like, why’d you even bring that I’m growing in my own yard. Right. I had to drive to the store. I spent money. I picked it up. That was all transported. It was all farmed by somebody else and cleaned and packaged and delivered to the store. [00:36:57] The stock is stocked it. I checked it out. I did all this work to bring you the lettuce and all the other stuff for the veggies. Meanwhile, you’ve already grown it in your backyard. Right? So vegetarians and vegans. Do not grow their own fascial, Coleen and creating in their yard. They don’t have to make it. [00:37:19] And if 70% of the body’s methylation is used to make creating a fossil Coleen, how much homocysteine are vegetarians and vegans creating because methylation creates homocysteine. And they are having to synthesize and make a lot of creating a lot of phosphocholine, which is producing a lot of homocysteine, which is a huge cardiovascular risk marker it’s associated with also neurological dysfunction, mood disorders, you know, autism, um, well, not autism, uh, dementia. [00:37:50] Um, it’s massive. And I cannot tell you the number of vegans and vegetarians who have been very, very ill. And also had cardiovascular disease and heart attacks. They’re there. I I’ve worked with them. One-on-one um, in fertile, recurrent miscarriages, you know, so on and I totally respect where they’re coming from. [00:38:12] The problem is we are not taught that 70% of our methylation is used for this stuff. And it’s generating a huge amount of homocysteine you’re deficient in B12. You’re not even getting enough. And, um, you know, you’re deficient in full eight, you’re a vegetarian or vegan. Who’s consuming, you know, pizzas or fast food and you’re not eating even salads. [00:38:35] So, you know, being a vegan, vegetarian is it can be done properly and it is done by prop properly by a number of people. It’s also done improperly by a lot. Right. And properly would be adding supplements in to make up for what you’re not getting in your diet. I would S yes, um, yeah, B12, especially, um, but there are ways to increase, create creating a fossil Coleen, Coleen, um, and a vegan diet and vegetarian diet. [00:39:03] You just have to be very mindful of that in and know, um, what all that is and not enough people are talking about it. Yeah. Do you know of all the guests I’ve had on this podcast? They’re it’s like, they’re always, this vegetarian topic comes up. And everybody agrees that they have a little different slant on it, that the human body was not meant to be vegetarian. [00:39:26] And there is the ethical piece and that’s, you know, understandable, but, uh, there’s even some people who would debate with that a little bit. Um, but I, I keep hearing it over and over again yet in our reset or group, we have so many people that want to be vegetarian and I honor that I just don’t want them to be ill. [00:39:44] So that’s why. I ask, what are some of the ways that they can supplement in? I mean, I will say when I was working with clients and patients, a number of them were, were vegans vegetarians, and they were the sickest. Yeah. I was the sickest when I was a vegetarian. Yeah. And I, I tried it for, I don’t know, a year or so. [00:40:06] I don’t remember exactly how long I tried. But I definitely didn’t do it. Right. I knew nothing about nutrition. I had no clue. I was probably more of a Carpentarian than I was a vegetarian. Yeah. Um, but I was, I was weak. I had no muscle. I was just bad, but I also was on the Utah rowing team and we had vegetarians on our rowing team and they were built strong and healthy and fast runners. [00:40:33] So, you know, a, how are their jeans? Okay. And as the, you know, what, what else was going on with that? Yeah. Yeah. So could a vegetarian get a strategy test to see what they need to add in nutrient wise? That would that be a simple solution if they wanted to ethically stay a vegetarian? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. [00:40:54] And you would have more, um, understanding of what to do and why, um, and, uh, that when you understand why first. And then what you need to do and when you need to do it and all that, your compliance goes up and you feel more confident. If you feel more confident, you’re going to take action. A lot of people, you know, health professionals get pissed off when their patients are compliant. [00:41:19] Oh, they’re not compliant. Well, aided you remove fear. B did you explain it really well? Did you tell them why they need to do it, how they need to do it? And did you, did you explain all that. And if you haven’t well then yeah, I’m not going to be compliant either. You know, jump off that cliff over there. He didn’t know the rule of parenting that if you want somebody to, you know, your child to do something, you gotta, you gotta have a little praise sandwich, you gotta get, build some rapport, you know, and then you. [00:41:49] You can go in hard with disciplines. So yeah. Tell me, let’s, let’s go into fasting. I want to talk about fasting and the microbiome with our genes, because again, this is fascinating, especially we’ve got hundreds of thousands of recenters that are fascinating, and I’m curious if genes will make it easier to free for you to fast, harder for you to fast, or is fasting part of cleaning your genes up. [00:42:16] Great question, loaded question. Um, and a lot of that, um, I have some things to share that are useful. Other things I have no idea. Um, so I will share what I know. And I also, I wish I had some notes down of things that I researched and I was super excited about. That I don’t remember what they are, but they were phenomenally important in regards to fasting. [00:42:45] Um, anyway, now that I pissed you off and irritated, you good? Um, yeah, so there are supplements out there called NAD, right? What is that? Nicotine and I had herbicide or whatever it’s called. Um, and. So niacin is one of your friends for fasting. And so when you fast your night yes. And levels, actually your NAD levels actually increase. [00:43:15] So when you exercise your NAD levels increase. So NADH has the opposite. NADH is elevated in diabetics. It’s elevated in women who have gestational diabetes, diabetics, um, and it’s elevated in people who are generally inflamed and NADH when NADH burns. It becomes Ned when you eat glucose, glucose becomes NADH. [00:43:44] Okay. So think about this for a second. You, you studied the Krebs cycle, maybe back in health, professional days, or maybe you learned it in biochem years and years ago in school. But when you eat food carbohydrate or even some proteins, it becomes glucose. Glucose goes around, spins around, does its thing. [00:44:01] It breaks down and it becomes NADH inside the mitochondria. The first step in the mitochondria takes that into DH, along with cocuten and it burns it. And it burns it to generate ATP. If you have high NADH and you have sufficient cocuten, the mitochondria can start making ATP. That’s all great. Awesome. [00:44:27] What people do not talk about is if you have too much, NADH from not fasting from eating excessively snacking all the time, overeating not moving, you know, drinking soda. That any of the ages at are high, high level. If your NADH is at a high level, your body has all that sugar. Remember sugar makes glucose makes NADH. [00:44:52] So if glucose cannot become NADH, where’s it going to go? It has to go somewhere. You don’t puke it up. It has to go somewhere. So your body has alternative routes to deal with this. And this is not discussed enough. Because you have doctors treating diabetics. By forcing more glucose out of the blood, into the cell and the cells are screening or down-regulated the glucose receptors is like, Hey man, we’re full in here. [00:45:25] Don’t give me any more glucose. We’re full. But doctors are prescribing insulin to drive more glucose into the cell, out of the blood. And it’s out of the blood in the cell. They’re thinking, Oh, everything’s fine. But no, it’s not fine. Now we got fatty liver anyway, so, but excess of glucose. Creates compounds that are extremely reactive and dangerous. [00:45:47] That’s why diabetics get, lose their eyesight. That’s why they have erectile dysfunction. That’s why they have heart attacks. That’s why they get, you know, bruises and gangrene in their legs because they don’t have any blood flow. Um, and it uses up your body’s number one antioxidant called glutathione. So there’s this compound called methyl glyoxal um, that is synthesized when NADH levels are too high. [00:46:09] So when you fast. You are burning the NTD H and you are then reducing that excess NADH, which then allows the glucose to funnel through normally and not go through those alternative toxic, highly reactive pathways. What about the microbiome? Do you know, in my research, it was like, we started to understand genes through the human genome project. [00:46:35] And that was like our not understanding it to the degree. You understand it. But then after that came the microbiome, um, project, and it was like, We had this initial understanding that these two communicate with each other. Yeah. Um, but that’s all we’ve been taught. So what do we know about like foods like sauerkraut and polyphenol foods? [00:46:56] Like, are those interacting with our genes and causing different genes? Yeah. Yeah. Big time, uh, clean up, or get overwhelmed. Um, yeah, it’s, you know, I love Paul Saudi knows work. Uh, you know, the carnivore code book we’ve had him on here. Yeah, he’s great. He came over here one day and we went, wake surfing and, and, uh, he brought over some raw meat, salted meat that he prepared. [00:47:22] And I had, there was like six or seven boys, all teenagers with their shirts off, you know, all buff and lifting. And then Paul walks in, you know, just ripped as hell without his shirt. And they’re like, damn, and he’s eating raw meat and they’re like, what in the hell? But they, yeah, they ate it and they’re like, wow, it’s actually good. [00:47:42] Um, so yeah. Um, yeah, Paul’s funny. Um, and smart Hills, very smart. Oh my gosh. Yes. I bet I would have liked to be a fly on the wall of your guys’ conversation. It was fun, a lot of fun. Um, and, uh, so the microbiome is. Fascinating. And we do not give it the respect that it deserves and my appreciation and respect for it has grown, you know, logarithmically. [00:48:14] I mean, it’s like that. Um, and my understanding of it is like this. Um, so I, I will just say that, um, I’ve done some crazy things with probiotics that I never knew that was even possible. And so I designed a, a probiotic based on research that actually is known to modulate histamine response. You know, that based on the strains and I started using it myself and I didn’t think anything of it, but I used to, um, you know, if I touch the dust mites or dust bunnies under the bed, Um, I get red dots all over my hands. [00:48:57] If I walk barefoot in an environment like that, I get red dots all over my feet. I had eczema, uh, on my ankles for years, like 20 years. Um, and if I was, I pulled something out and did some spring cleaning in the house and there was dust bunnies everywhere. Like, Oh God, you know, I’ll clean up. I’m going to have to go to shower after. [00:49:14] Cause I’d just be itchy and horrible. And one day we moved into this rental and uh, because we were remodeling our home, I pulled the dryer out because it wasn’t working and it was just disgusting. And I’m like, well, here we go. And I’m shower after. So I cleaned everything up. Filthy, dirty, clean, all done. [00:49:33] I wasn’t reacting. At all. And I was thinking, wait a minute, this isn’t right. What’s changed. I literally stood there in the laundry room with the dryer, pulled out. I’m covered in dust. I’m not reacting, like what’s changed. I’ve been taking this probiotic for like two weeks. That was it. That was it. And, um, so, and then I, my son got a mosquito bite. [00:50:02] And, uh, I happen to take the probiotic with us to Hawaii. I was like, you know what? Just for fun. I opened the capsule, I put it on a plate. I add a couple drops of water and I just dabbed it on the mosquito bite, took the itch away. Wow. And then people with runny noses put some probiotic and their nose, chronic runny nose gone. [00:50:21] So, do you know what, what, uh, strains of bacteria were in it? Um, yeah, I designed it. Um, so there’s like, they’re all lactobacillus. Um, so there is plantarum there’s Ram gnosis um, I forget the other ones off hand, but there is no lactobacillus bulgaricus there’s no lack of bacillus. Um, for mentum there’s no histamine producing strains and. [00:50:48] Here’s the thing on foods. If you are following a low histamine diet or a low oxalate diet or low this diet, or a fasting forever, you need to understand that your microbiome are bacteria, obviously, and they need food. And if you are not eating food, you are shifting your microbiome either for the better or for the worse and obese people have a different microbiome. [00:51:14] People who exercise have a different microbiome. People who fast have a different microbiome. People who eat a bunch of veggies have a different microbiome. So if you are oxalate free and histamine free and dairy free and all this stuff free, that whatever microbiome that you had that was present before to help consume that stuff and process it. [00:51:35] If you reintroduce it later, you’re going to have a very unfavorable response. Due to those probiotics, not even being there to help handle that load because they’re gone, you didn’t, you didn’t support them. So if you are, if you are a low oxalate and you want to try to get oxalates back, you know, first you gotta get rid of the overgrowth. [00:51:57] You gotta support, you know, gut health and gallbladder, health, and stomach acid and all that. And then you’re introduced specific probiotics, which I still learning, but you introduce oxalates at a low level. Bit by bit. So then you can regrow that microbiome again. That makes sense. Do you think you could take, like, we do a lot of gut Zoomer tests and I’m thinking now, like, could we take our gut Zoomer test and a strategy? [00:52:23] Is there any way to, to overlap that information? There is some that’s useful. There’s not as much as I would like. So here, here’s the deal with strategy. And so strategy is it’s like 23andme or ancestry, but more like 23. And me because it’s health stuff too, even though 23 meals stuff is worthless in my opinion. [00:52:42] Um, so you, you spit in the tube, it comes back and you get a report and you got, I don’t know, a hundred genes or so that are discussed. And, but you have a raw data of thousands of genes. And so we report to you what we’ve researched and what we’ve done. And we give you that in the, in the report. Now we have other genes which we have researched, which we have not reported to you yet. [00:53:10] So we are going to develop a gut metabolism or an, a leaky gut test or report something along those lines. Dr Mindy hair. And let me ask you this question. What if you started off January, 2021 with over 20 different health experts, all guiding you and cheering you on to achieve your health goals. How would 2021 be different than the health you had in 2020? [00:53:43] Well, this is a question I was asking myself and how I can deliver the greatest experience possible to my resellers. Which is how I came up with the reset experience. And I literally have brought you an arsenal of experts that are going to guide you through this experience, educate you and cheer you on. [00:54:07] And this is in my opinion. Like a no fail plan. Now, if you’re like me, I don’t like a lot of hype. I want to know I’m going to get results. And that’s how we built everything that we have done in our reset Academy. It is a result driven program. So this is a four week experience. Every week we are doing something different. [00:54:31] So we’ve got our fast training week. We have our masterclass week. We’ve got our new year’s. Fat-burning reset. So every week you’re doing a different type of fast, different eating style and there’s different education. So I did that on purpose. So the brain never gets bored. You’re always moving in, in a pattern of forward momentum. [00:54:52] So you not only get the experts, but you’re also getting every week, there’s something different coming to you. Plus if you’re like me, I’m a visual learner. So I want to hear, I want to see video. I want to hold something in my hand. I want to be able to interact with people. I want community. That’s how I learned. [00:55:11] That’s how I get results. So that’s what we’re doing for you. So there is an 84 page fat burner reset book for you. We’ve got the companion guide for fast training week. We’ll be in here and we’ve got a whole community to support you, but I didn’t stop there again. I want to make sure that you succeed. So we have Saturday morning workouts, two of the Saturdays, we’re going to be working out together. [00:55:39] I’ll show you a 15 minute style of workout that will help you with your fat burning efforts. I’m going to show you all the different fasting ways that you can use fasting to burn fat. I’m also gonna show you all the different ways. That you can use diet variation to succeed at your health goals. So this literally has never been done this amount of experts, this kind of experience, this kind of community support has never been put together before in a month line, long experience in January, and we’ve done it for you. [00:56:12] So we are really excited to have you join us, just click below to join the reset experience, and I’ll see you in the grid. One of the things that we see in the alternative world is that people are like, well, I don’t want to take medication, but I’ll take a supplement and they’re using the same paradigm with the take the pill. [00:56:30] And, but the paradigm is broken. There needs to be a new paradigm that, that emerges. Yeah. And we all want easy. I mean, look, I want easy too. And I want to be able to identify which genes I have and what supplement I need to take to quote unquote, fix it. Um, but if the body was that simple, As a species we’d be off the planet, we’d be extinct already. [00:56:50] Right? Right. So the body is inherently complicated for our own survival purposes. And we as health professionals and owners of our own bodies, um, we need to respect the complexity and understand the complexity and dive in and, and, and appreciate that. And, and to leverage it and harness it. And if we do that, you will thrive. [00:57:12] If you try to take shortcuts and hack your way through it. You will never reach, achieve where you want to be and it will be frustrating journey. Yeah. Yeah. I am. So in alignment with you on that, uh, let me finish up with this. We have a handful of questions. We’d love to ask our, um, our guests on. And one of my questions to you is, and I don’t even know if there is a favorite, but what’s your favorite gene? [00:57:38] Oh boy. I don’t think everybody’s asked me that before. Um, [00:57:49] I’m going to say nos three for now, [00:57:55] because it’s so easily dirty. It’s so easily Derry and it’s so influenced by all these other genes that if you’re not three is working, that means so many of your other genes are working well. So not us. Three is the gene. That is the last Jean to clean as you’re reading the book and my hands are really warm right now. [00:58:19] And that means my Nasry is, is happy. It’s it’s working well. And I listen to my knowledge three, a lot, and I do it through my breathing and I, my hands. And it’s one of those things. That a lot of people are walking through every single day with cold hands and feet and feats, um, and, uh, mouth breathing and just being mindless about their breath and what not. [00:58:47] Yeah. Three, you can immediately warm up your hands, alter your breath and experience increased profusion of blood flow and warmth your hands within a minute. And you’ve cleaned up your Nasry gene and you see it and you feel it. And it’s a. It’s just so hyper responsive to your actions. Okay. I’ll have to go check mine out. [00:59:09] What, uh, what do you feel like is, is there one lifestyle tool that will clean most jeans? Yeah, a lot. Um, one is, uh, uh, breathing properly, you know, breathing is automatic autonomic nervous system. We take it for granted. If you focus on your breath more that’s key. Um, without air we’re dead in a few minutes, right? [00:59:37] So let’s remember that. Um, another one would be, uh, regrets, um, is really damaging. So if you make a decision. To have a party and, you know, have a donut, maybe two, maybe three, maybe step til three in the morning. And then it’s three 30 rolls around and you go to bed and you’re pissed off at yourself for doing all that. [01:00:07] And the next day you’re tired and you’re still pissed off that you did. No, that that’s not good. And, um, so, so I say, if, if you’re going to go and you’re going to party and you’re stay up till three and you can have those donuts, enjoy it. Love it have fun with it. And then, you know, the next day when you wake up, you’re like, okay, I had fun last night. [01:00:31] Now I’m going to clean up my jeans a little bit. Yeah. I love, I love that. We’ve say that all the time, like, you know, light being healthy doesn’t mean deprivation. Uh, and that’s, that’s amazing. Agreed. I mean, dirty genes is it’s. It’s not. I purposely didn’t call it clean jeans or, you know, pristine jeans or anything like that. [01:00:53] Because look, I make decisions that are not ideal all the time. And, um, the key is thankfully I know my biochemistry and my own genetics, and I know where I can take shortcuts. And I know where I can’t, or I know where I can indulge. And I know where I can’t, I can’t touch gluten. I just can’t. I just, I’m not steely act, but I just don’t do well with gluten. [01:01:13] I don’t touch it. You know, that’s one thing I don’t touch. Um, you know, I’ll have a drink alcoholic beverage. Once every couple months, you know, very rare. Um, I’m tolerating better, but I still don’t feel good from alcohol. So I don’t, I don’t go there that often because I just takes me too long to recover. [01:01:32] Um, if I recovered better, I’d probably drink a little bit more. Um, you know, but I don’t beat myself up over it when I do have a drink. Yeah. Fascinating. Okay. And what talks and do you think right now in our environment is damaging or our genes? The most? Ooh, um, indoor air and a lot of indoor air is combustibles. [01:02:03] Um, and if it’s not combustible, you know, meaning it’s burning, like, you know, your gas furnace or your gas stove or your gas fireplace, all these things are, you know, producing significant amounts of formaldehyde. So it’s whatever is in your environment that is producing the most exposure for you. So in our home, our biggest exposure. [01:02:29] It’s pretty darn clean in here. I mean, I got a cork floor. I have dry wall that sucks and formaldehyde and breaks it down. I have wood ceilings. Um, I’ve wood doors, uh, have all natural paints, uh, all wood furniture. I mean, my exposure in here is minimal. Um, so I would have to say that, uh, our big biggest exposure is from. [01:02:53] Our gas heat in our furnace, because this was not a build a new build. This building was a new build, but our home, um, has a gas furnace. So I would say. Gas gas, heat, gas, water heating, and gas cook. Interesting. I would not have guessed you to say that. That’s yeah. And I’ve heard that before about indoor air that it’s bad. [01:03:16] I didn’t hear it. Think of it in a genetic way. Yeah. Because every time you turn on that stove, every time your heat kicks on, um, or every time you kick on that fireplace that you see it, you know, you’re sitting outside at the ski resort or outside bars. When you got those in San Diego, you’ve got those. [01:03:32] Heaters that you can sit outside and they’re warming you and you smell that gas, your bodies, your glutathione genes are at work right now. So that’s a big one. So take lutein when that happens and then use the hood when you’re cooking and use the hood. Right. You know, the fan, turn it on before you ignite the stove. [01:03:53] Ah, so you do the hook, the fan first and then, ah, interesting. Yes. Cause when you turn it on, there’s a little bit of gas that comes through before it ignites. And you’ll probably, almost always smell that and you’re like, Oh, it’s just a little bit, it’s an exposure and it will accumulate over time and it’s depleting your glue found over time. [01:04:13] And now if you go outside. And you’re sitting in traffic or, you know, your smells formaldehyde, you know, or you take some Tylenol. These are your glutathione levels are just dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping. Right. Okay. My last question, we ask everybody this, uh, if you had one message for the world that you could get into everybody’s brain, what would that message be? [01:04:36] Easy be grateful. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s look, I mean, a lot of these things I’m saying are really simple and they are really simple, but it’s, it’s hard to practice. Um, you know, it’s being grateful. We get stuck at what’s wrong or what can be better. We get jealous of, you know, so-and-so’s car. So-and-so can run faster than me, or they’re stronger than me, or they’re better looking than me. [01:05:02] Um, but you have a lot of attributes that are, that other people don’t have. And, um, you know, so I would love you to be more grateful. If I could just teach my boys in and model gratefulness, I’ve won as a parent. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that. What a beautiful way to end this and thank you so much. I mean, this is really a topic I have not dove into with my recenters. [01:05:26] You have my brain really intrigued. So now I can wait to take my strategy and dive into all your courses and your book a little bit deeper. Um, and then what I want to do it is take that and figure out how to use it with our recenters. So I will report back and let you know how we implement this. Yeah. [01:05:44] And, and, and feel free to reach out to me too. And, you know, I can help help you out design it. So it’s a bit better. And, uh, you know, if you have a question or you did this and you know, this really worked, you can share, and, or I did this and it backfired, um, you know, let me know, or I find some people. You know, who’s fast, 16 hours thrive in it, but after on day six there, you know, or whatever, they’re, they’re really failing. [01:06:08] You know, there’s, there’s a lot of things at play and you’ll have a glucose metabolism. Pathway here, which is not in strategy, but you know, we’ll, we’ll get there. We’re going to be making new pathways as we evolve. Vitamin D is being worked on right now. Vitamin D metabolism is crazy. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, I would love, I mean, we have, we have so many people that fast. [01:06:29] It would be really interesting. To see the correlation between their strategy and fasting and like, could we make some changes, um, going into the fast, like you, again, you got my brain thinking if we knew what you needed going into the fast, would it make the fast, easier? That’s kind of a cool way to look at it. [01:06:48] Yeah. So inflammation, oxidative stress, and co-factors are going to be the biggest issues for people entering a fast look. A lot of people are not metabolically flexible. So they, they just can’t burn fat. And so they try to fast and they end up burning protein in their muscles rather than fat. Now they get weaker and sicker and are accumulating ammonia and so on. [01:07:12] So yeah, it’s um, I’ve actually been trying to design a supplement for fat burning the first time I, and I thought I had it. I tested it. And it just wanted me to go eat carbs. So it just made me hungry. It’s like, that’s not what I wanted. I failed. Try it again. Yeah. No good. Well, Dr. Lynch, thank you so much. [01:07:31] This has been amazing. And we will definitely report back. Cause now I feel like I got enough information that I could go and apply it to our people and see what happens. So I’ll let you know. I’ll keep you posted. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for time and thank you for doing what you’re doing. Cause I think you are a. [01:07:47] A lone Wolf in your, in your category and much needed. So yeah, it gets lonely. It’s fun. Yeah. Thank you. Hey, recenters I just want to start off by saying thank you so much for all your wonderful reviews and those of you that have left me. Comments on iTunes. I just greatly appreciate your thoughtfulness and how much you guys are enjoying these episodes. [01:08:16] And it seems like you’re enjoying them as much as I am enjoying doing them. One of the things that I’ve learned in just interacting with so many people is that we’ve really lost. The art of deep conversations. And for me, the reset or podcasts stands for having meaningful conversations with people who are thinking about health, about life, about mindset in a way that we may not be getting. [01:08:42] On social media or in mainstream media. And so I just want to say, give you guys a shout out and just say thank you for participating in this process with me, because as much as I absolutely love delivering the information to you, I love even more knowing that it’s impacting your life. So please let us know if there’s anything we can do to make this. [01:09:05] Podcast more customized to you to make it better. We are now officially in season two, and we are working to bring you the best conversations that health influencers have. That mindset changes can give and to really deliver you something that you’re not able to get anywhere else. So from the bottom of my heart, as I always say my YouTube from the. [01:09:27] Bottom of my heart. I am deeply appreciative of you. I am deeply grateful to be on this journey with you and let’s get healthy together.// RESOURCES MENTIONED
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Wonderful info! I discovered Dr Ben a few years ago as I had low B’s no matter what I did, including injections. After doing the stratagene and discovering my dirty genes I have felt so much better! I still wish I understood more. I like Dr Lynch can not do gluten, rarely drink and I realize it is gene related. I have really low glutathione levels, so still need to work on that…but it’s hard to understand on one’s own! Thank you for this awesome podcast!
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