Unveiling The Power of Plant-Based Minerals – with Caroline Alan

Dr. Mindy  

On this episode of The resetter podcast, I bring you Caroline Allen. So we are going to dive deep into minerals. And this is massively important because if you’re not familiar with why minerals are so incredibly important, it’s not only do they run and regulate every cellular process in our body. But what’s happening is that our soils are incredibly deficient in minerals. So why I wanted to bring Caroline to you is she is a mineral enthusiast, and she’s the co founder and CEO of beam minerals, which has been one of the more incredible mineral products I’ve taken, I can tell you, I’ve seen my hair grow faster, my nails grow faster. And of all the mineral products I’ve taken this one has truly been one of the most profound. So here’s what you’re going to learn in this episode. For starters, Caroline’s brain works in a way that allows you to hold on to her information at a really deep level. And what I mean by that is she explains things so beautifully. So she explains it in the lay person term, she’s going to talk about all the cellular functions, that minerals will help you with some of which you might have some aha, cuz we don’t always think if I’m fatigued, maybe I’m low in minerals. Or if I have brain fog, maybe I’m low in minerals. So you’re going to hear Caroline really, really dive deeply into all aspects of minerals, and how they can benefit your health. This was literally one of the best discussions I’ve ever had on minerals. I learned a ton, and I’m having an incredible experience with this product. So I’m super excited to bring it to you. So Caroline Allen, enjoy and cheers to better mineral health and ultimately better cellular health. Hope you enjoy it. As much as I love to talking with Carolina.

Dr. Mindy  

Hey, Dr. Mindy here, and welcome to season four of the resetter podcast. Please know that this podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself. Again, if you have a passion for learning, if you’re looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you. Enjoy.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, so, Caroline, here’s where I want to start the mineral conversation because I think it’s really interesting. I’ve studied nutrition since I was 16. I’ve taken supplements since I was like five, like my mom, every morning, we would get to the breakfast table. And there would be a pile of supplements waiting for us that my mom had customized for us. I literally remember as a child going into the health food store before there was a whole foods and like the smell of those old fashioned health food stores. So I’ve been around this so much. And yet, we’ve never had such a cultural conversation on minerals, like we are having in this day and age. I just right. So can we start off with like, why in 2023? Is it so important for us to talk about minerals? And what is a mineral? Because it seems to be the buzz right now?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah. Well, you know, it’s really interesting is there is a term now, that was termed it was coined by the World Health Organization for mineral deficiency, and it’s called the hidden hunger. So why are we talking about it? Because we’re experiencing a pandemic of the hidden hunger. Wow, what

Dr. Mindy  

did they mean by that? Like, like a mineral deficiency makes us hungry or like our body’s hungry for men, literally,

Caroline Alan  

what does a hungry What does a cell that does not have enough minerals crave? it craves sugar, and salt. Because what it’s looking for are electrolytes, minerals, and electrolytes are minerals. And it’s also looking for any way that it can generate energy. So when you think about your body, you’ve got like 37 trillion cells in your body, and every single cell runs off to things meant minerals and amino acids. That’s what fuels the mitochondria inside the cell. Wow. So what are we doing now? We’re drinking bottled water, filtered water. It’s got no minerals. We’re eating foods that have been grown in production farming, where when a plant grows in the soil, do you know how it makes the plant it sucks the minerals out of the soil? So they’ve actually had mineral deficiency? issues with soil since the 1930s, they had a whole session in Congress about it in the 1930s. And they really have done nothing about it. So the soils are depleted of minerals, the foods we’re eating are our mineral deficient, your body is mineral deficient. They actually, most scientists who study in this world say that we have maybe 35 to 40% of the minerals in our body that we need. Wow. So it’s like if we took these lights, and we dialed them down to 40%. That’s how most of us are operate. What

Dr. Mindy  

what part of the cell? Do the minerals help

Caroline Alan  

nourish? Yeah. So inside your cells, there’s this energy generating unit called the mitochondria. And it’s kind of cool, like inside a skin cell. On your arm, you have maybe 12 to 14 mitochondria, inside your heart, like four to 5000 mitochondria in a single cell, in your eyes, like 40,000 mitochondria in a single cell in your brain. There’s way more Okay, so, and each mitochondria has a life cycle. And it requires these cofactors to generate energy. So every piece of energy in my hands moving us converse, us talking, the sound of my voice, all of it is energy that had to be generated somewhere. And it’s generated in the mitochondria. And mitochondria is fueled via like that energy is fueled via these cofactors of minerals, and amino acid. I mean, look around the room, everything is made of minerals. If you took all the water out of your body, you’d be a little pile of minerals. So

Dr. Mindy  

why do we go oh, you know, take your vitamins.

Caroline Alan  

But nobody ever mentions minerals. Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

like, like I’m thinking, like, when you explain it like that. And I’m, you know, I’m a geek for the mitochondria. And we were just talking with, with lat about where the densest amount of mitochondria is. And this is like my new insight that I’m trying to send out to the world. In the female body. Do you know what has the most amount of mine and it’s our

Caroline Alan  

eggs? Oh, of course, that makes sense.

Dr. Mindy  

Because all the genetic wisdom that’s in there, how strong the egg has to be. Also, do you notice something else about the egg that is so cool, is that it actually sends a chemical message out and invites the most well suited sperm to enter her for fertilization. It’s the egg that chooses the sperm. And it’s done through a chemical messenger. So that my brain says when we think about the minerals, it’s like, yeah, that’s how powerful we are. I just want to point that out. But when I think about that, I’m like, Oh, my God, when we look at infertility rates, exactly. And we’ve, and if those eggs have, I don’t even know how many mitochondria they have. But if they’re not getting the minerals, could that be like the

Caroline Alan  

well, and then the sperm also doesn’t have the minerals? The egg might be looking for sperm that has enough minerals to to generate the energy to swim up the, you know, you see, so the mineral mineral deficiency has so many, I mean, all of the electrical, the entire electrical system in your body, which includes all of the neurotransmitter connections, I mean, everything is generated with minerals, when you follow, you know, as when I did the study that I did when I followed it all the way down. It’s all about electrical transference of energy through vibration. You know, raise what is the difference with like

Dr. Mindy  

a spark? Yes. Yeah. It creates like a spark. Yes. And you know, it’s interesting, because I spent many years studying the Krebs cycle. And it’s very complicated, very common. But the one thing I remember is that, if I think of it in terms of a circle, yes, it was like it needed certain minerals. Yes, primarily, I need some vitamins to it has to go into to make the Krebs cycle circle continue, so that it can spit out ATP,

Caroline Alan  

which is energy, right? Yes. So here’s the interesting thing. What happens when those minute when that mineral it hits a certain stage of its Krebs cycle and that mineral is not available? What happens is that mitochondria goes into it, it’s not able to generate enough energy and the cell ultimately ends up going into an anaerobic function. And the way I like to think about it, you know, like if you go to the gym and you’re, you know, first your aerobic, and then at a certain point, the reason your muscle gets tired is because the cells in those area in that area doesn’t have enough energy, and the cells are going into an anaerobic function. The difference is that a cell that works aerobic ly and has all the minerals available can generate like 12 units of energy, not the cell, the mitochondria, right, like 12 units of, of energy of ATP, whereas when it’s an anaerobic function, it’s one. Wow. So it’s 112. So as this lifecycle is occurring, and what happens is basically amino acids and minerals come together as cofactors at each stage in this Krebs cycle, and when they’re not available, literally, your body can’t generate enough energy.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, so the intersection of amino acid, minerals, hormones and neurotransmitters has become like this massive fascination for me because I feel like when we enter our 40s and go into our pre menopausal time, and then into our menopausal years, that we’re not giving enough credit to these really important concepts, like you’re gonna lose more estradiol, you’re going to lose more progesterone, if you’re more mineral and amino deficient. And if you lose those, now you’re going to lose serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine and GABA. So it’s a it’s like a it’s like a house of cards, that just falls apart as a woman goes into her her Peri menopausal years

Caroline Alan  

And if you’re dealing with glyphosate exposure, that is exponential alized.

Dr. Mindy  

Because glyphosate holds grabs on to minerals.

Caroline Alan  

Well, first of all, it grabs on to minerals. And second of all, it interrupts the development of very specific amino acids that are precursors for serotonin, for melatonin, so sleep mood, really, and we could get into the more the complexities of that, but yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

and so the other interesting thing is I connect the dots in my own mind chatting with you is, is that I think, again, why are we overcomplicating health? Like, we have all these new challenges, and again, my passion being hormonal challenges, but we want to we the debate in the menopause world right now is like HRT, or no HRT, or bio identicals are no bio tentacles. And I think this is a really interesting debate, but we are missing the elephant in the room, which is we are missing key nutritional substances that we need to make these neuro chemicals in our body. Yes. So why do you think like today and 2023? Why are we talking about this now

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, well, I think there’s a lot of reasons I think there’s a, there’s been a shift from the medical doctors, I mean, doctors aren’t trained at all in nutrition, they’ve never been told anything. I mean, maybe one hour in their entire medical training of, you know, nutritional background. So I think what’s happening is people are starting, I actually think one of the reasons is from people doing keto. Because when people did, keto became more mainstream, people started experiencing extreme electrolyte depletion. And they started having to learn about, oh, I need electrolytes the same way years ago, people didn’t know anything about probiotics, right? We didn’t know about the gut, microbiome, et cetera. And so we there was no this big push, push, people started to learn like now, most people know, oh, yeah, probiotics, you should take those, or whatever, or you should use those at some point, especially if you have antibiotics or whatever. I mean, the, you know, the lowest level of knowledge has heard of them, right. And that’s what’s happening with minerals. I really think minerals, the knowledge about minerals, and supplementation is going to become the vanguard of health. I mean, it’s,

Dr. Mindy  

I can I could line my thinking up with that. I feel like, again, I’m my heart’s warming when you’re like, I think it’s the Keto movement. And I thought, Oh, maybe I have I had something to do with all their evil understanding about about minerals. And I really it was, I’ll tell you the insight that I gained when I first started doing what we call fast training weeks, yes, which is where we would fast people all over the world. And we would ask for feedback. And we would do a five day period once a month. And what I started to notice is how many people when they went into a fasted state, lost their hair, got started getting heart palpitations, and got really dizzy. And some people got headaches, some people got the rashes but it was like all these symptoms were showing up. And when we started playing with the different pieces of minerals, it was like those symptoms went away. Yes. So I literally after my first year of doing fast training week with the world, I came out of that and went we’re mineral deficient as as a culture I’m watching it on my YouTube channel. Exactly. Exact so then that takes me to why why are we mineral deficient? What is it that we’re are we not getting in our food is exactly you cannot

Caroline Alan  

If you cannot get enough minerals from the foods you eat, you cannot. Because the minerals what’s happened in our production farming is that there’s there’s two big reasons. One is that when you grow plants, the structure in that plant is made from minerals, and it sucked out of the soil. So that soil is deficient. And so literally, the nutrition level of the foods that we eat today is not the same. It’s I say, it’s not your mother’s broccoli that you’re eating anymore if you eat broccoli,

Dr. Mindy  

okay, what if I go to a regenerative farm, even then,

Caroline Alan  

because it doesn’t matter even if you’re growing it in your backyard organic garden, every time you grow food in soil, unless you put the minerals back into the soil, you are depleting that soil of minerals. Now people put compost and things like that. But this is where we get into the plant based minerals in the humic and fulvic, which are truly the Mother Nature’s technology for mineral replenishment in soils in all cellular systems across the earth in humans. I mean, it’s it is the mineral replenishment, technique technology.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay. And I want to dive into that, because even in all my knowledge when I first saw your products, I was like fulvic humic. I don’t know what’s going on here. Somebody tell me. And I want to learn that today. Yeah. But I want to go back to one other thought because I here’s what I want people listening to really gather is that our soils are depleted. Even if we’re doing regenerative and at home, that was that was really interesting. I have a thought on that. Remind me to tell you, we’ve got glyphosate that’s pulling it out. Most people aren’t even eating enough vegetables. Exactly. And we don’t even know how much vegetables we’re supposed to be eating. Let’s just be honest. And then we’ve got gut dysbiosis. So if your guts, multiple antibiotic option issues, absorption issues, let’s put it under that. And then we’ve got stress. Yes. And the more stressed we are the more we need these minerals, and we’re drinking

Caroline Alan  

filtered and bottled water, which is huge. And this is I think this is the piece that’s tipped it over the edge. Because who drinks tap? I mean, people do drink tap water. Yeah, they shouldn’t. Because of all the other things in it, but it does have minerals. Yeah. So when you take all the minerals that when you filter all the minerals out, so what’s happening is young kids, I don’t know about you, but if you did sports when you were a kid, were you coming off the field? Are your compatriots coming off with cramps? No, no. Now, I talked to parents all the time. And their kids are extremely I mean having major problems if they’re doing sports. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay, because they’re all drinking the filtered and bottled water. Yeah. And then they’re just sweating. Yeah. And they’re just sweating it all

Dr. Mindy  

out. And then we got the biohacking movement that’s in their Infrared Saunas all the time. But yeah, that’s really that’s an interesting, I hadn’t really thought about that. Yeah. So so there’s really not a human on the planet that isn’t immune from this hidden hunger. Yeah, that that makes sense. So okay, so once we hopefully everybody’s got that, and I’ll share a little bit because I’ve been trying these for several months now. And I’ve seen some really interesting changes I want to share in a moment with you. But once I understand this deficiency, and I go, Hmm, okay, perhaps I’ll give it a try. How do I know I mean, I can walk into my local drugstore and grab some minerals. How do I know the difference between minerals?

Caroline Alan  

Right, and this is, this is the key. You know, I always say most people have a cabinet at home filled with bottles. So yeah, pills. And a lot of them are minerals. Because first of all, who wants to take all those men all those pills every day? Right? And second of all, they didn’t feel any difference. Yeah. And it’s because you know why? They don’t work, right? They actually don’t work. I do like

Dr. Mindy  

liquids better than pills. By the way, there’s so much easier. In fact, your products I do every morning when I’m making my coffee doing in the morning. So which we can talk about if that’s right or not, but yeah, pills. And so what about absorption of pills or pills less?

Caroline Alan  

So? Yeah, so, one. So let’s talk about let’s talk about the replenishment system in the body. This is, to me, this is like if you’re going to learn one thing in a year, about your body and about health. I think this is the most empowering thing you can learn, okay? Because it’s not only going to help you understand minerals, it’s going to help you understand your body and it’s going to help you understand all of the other supplementation you’re taking and how useful is it, it’s going to help you vet things. Okay. So it has to do with this word bioavailability. You know, this is a word that gets bandied about a lot. Right. Yeah, yeah. So but it has these three stages. The first is digestion. So the first question is, how well does something you put in your mouth actually get digested? And that has to do with what it’s made of. But it also has to do with how well your gut is working. Right. And the thing I learned that blew my mind is, unless something that you eat digests all the way down to its ionic chemical components, it cannot be absorbed. And if it is being absorbed is because you have gut dysbiosis. And now it’s going to cause problems, meaning leaky gut.

Dr. Mindy  

So okay, let me think that through for a moment. So you’re saying that even if I go to my farmers market, and I buy the healthiest broccoli, I can find? That’s right. And I come home and eat or I don’t even cook at my gut isn’t able to break it down into a usable? Well,

Caroline Alan  

it might, depending on the health of your gut, okay. Okay. Some portion of it is going to come through your bowel, you know, undigested just look in the toilet, you’ll see. Yeah. All right, ending on how well your gut is working that day. You’ll see how well the food actually. Yeah. But I mean, sometimes when I have problems, you know, I’ll see I’m like, wow, that’s just coming through. It’s not digested. Yeah. Other times things look really well digest. Yeah. Right. So the way it’s supposed to work is all that stuff’s been supposed to be totally broken down. And the only stuff that goes through is the fiber. Right? You say, Okay, the stuff that doesn’t, you know, it’s all the nutrients have been sucked out of it down and digested down to their ionic components. And the interesting thing is, so your, your gut is lined and you know, this, a gut is lined with these things called villi. And they kind of look like fingers. And each of those fingers is lined with these epithelial cells. And each one of those cells is lined with these receptor sites. And each receptor is specific. For what for like magnesium or magnesium citrate, or magnesium plukenetia, or potassium or potassium, I mean, they are specific and you have a lot of fun for magnesium, but you have a very small important amount for things like phosphorus or molybdenum,

Dr. Mindy  

or chromium. Are they only for minerals are they provide they’re

Caroline Alan  

there for? Well, then there’s of course there are receptors for sugars and you know, other nutrients, nutritional elements, salts, nutritional elements, that salts are really minerals to okay, but most of them are minerals. Think about it. He’s crazy. Isn’t that isn’t that mind blowing?

Dr. Mindy  

It’s mind blowing. So receptors to me, are like the body’s way of saying, This is what I need. Exactly. They’re like little to me. They’re like little gloves that are like, Hey, let me catch that. I gotta catch this. I gotta catch hormones. I gotta have in like, Yeah, I know. Isn’t this amazing?

Caroline Alan  

It’s totally amazing, completely blew my mind. So I thought, here’s this guy, who’s an athlete and he’s somebody says, you know, he has cramping. And somebody says, you need magnesium. So he takes all this magnesium, okay? And he’s flooding his gut with magnesium doesn’t matter. He only has so many receptors. Ah, okay. So his waist is he’s, he’s not hitting. That’s why we say Americans have the most expensive urine in the world, because we’re taking all these supplements and most of it is just washing out through the urine.

Dr. Mindy  

Can it get like insulin resistance? Where if you get too many things flooding at those receptors at the same time? No,

Caroline Alan  

not really. Okay? No, but what does happen is it creates imbalance in the gut. Okay, so think about the way I you know, this is what’s so amazing is we tend to think someone who along the line said, you know, you have a minimum daily requirement of this much magnesium, and 240 milligrams of potassium, whatever, which is ludicrous. Because why should you have the same amount that need is needed than me or some performance athlete or somebody who sits on the couch all day or whatever. I mean, we all in our size of our body, everything the way our bodies operate, everyone, it’s it’s very specific. Now, in its incredible infinite wisdom, the body said, that’s okay. You need as much as you need, I need as much. We’ll just we flood the system, and it will just have the right amount of receptors. So now, what happens when we put a huge amount of 320 milligrams of magnesium into your system? Do you know what it does? It starts trying to balance out with calcium and it pulls calcium out. So what happens with performance athletes as they age, they’ve been taking all this. This is an example of what I’m talking about, right? They actually start getting osteoporosis because they’ve taken so much magnesium that their body is trying to balance by pulling the calcium out of their bones. So this is what I’m talking about. This is a complete paradigm shift about how we think our body is not a car. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t say oh, I need gas putting gas I need The oil fill the reservoir of magnesium or potassium, it doesn’t work like that it’s these receptor sites. So what we need to do is start infusing our system in a very balanced way, with minerals that support the overall homeostasis of our gut.

Dr. Mindy  

It you know, it’s the word homeostasis keeps, like coming up in all the work that I’ve been doing. Because when we look at hormones, there’s this tendency to be like, well, you know, if I’m a menopausal woman, I need more progesterone, I should get as much progesterone as possible. But if you get too much progesterone, you throw off estrogen very much like, like what you just said with magnesium and calcium. Yes. Our culture is very focused on more is better. Yes. But what I just heard is when we’re dealing with the human body, more is, is is not only not better, but it could be harmful.

Caroline Alan  

Yes. And the thing that I think we, you know, we’ve been learning, you know, we’re all grown. And we’ve, as we learn, we, you know, we swing too far to the right or left or wherever, you know, and we, and the thing that I’m wanting to help people understand is the body is a homeostasis engine, your body every second, every millisecond of every day, it is working to clean things up, fix things, create balance, if you put too much magnesium in, it will start flushing that magnesium really fast. To get rid of it, you know, it’s doing HERC is giving you Herxheimer symptoms, because you’ve got some toxin, it’s, it’s con, it’s, it’s an incredibly incredible phenomena. So the thing about minerals is what minerals do is they support that entire homeostasis engine. Because if you can support every mitochondria, to be able to generate the energy inside the cell, to keep the cell operating aerobic ly, so that all of the processes when you’re fasting, those autophagy processes that are so amazing, I wanted to tell you a story that later but I’ll tell you later, about a toughie G and how powerful it is. But if you can support the body, the energy generation engine of the body, then all of those balancing, fixing, removing processes are fuelled. They actually, they actually take place, the hormone balance the adrenal balance that, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Dr. Mindy  

I don’t want to get off the topic. Yeah. And you can tell me your story in a moment. Because what I’m thinking now is, I know, we probably don’t have any studies on this. But could we make the correlation that if I go into a 20 hour fast, and I’m in a state of autophagy, and I’m locked and loaded with a lot of minerals, my autophagy process, the ability of my body to use a toughie G as a self healing, self clean cleaning tool is going to be better. Whereas if somebody’s mineral depleted, and they go into a 20 hour, fast, they’re not getting as deep of an autophagy experience? Could could that be? Is that possibility?

Caroline Alan  

Absolutely. So that because the toffee G itself is a cellular process that is fueled with ATP is generated by the mitochondria.

Dr. Mindy  

So if the money so yeah, so if the mitochondria doesn’t have enough minerals, then it can’t make enough ATP, which can fuel the autophagy process

Caroline Alan  

will get dizzy and they get, you know, all of those symptoms that you described, which is why the minerals in the electrolyte support for people who are fasting is so important, right? Such

Dr. Mindy  

a deeper isn’t it good. Love it. I just, this is why I love conversations like this. But here’s what’s interesting to me is I can tell you, when I first went out into the world trying to talk about I did something called the timeline benefits chart of fasting. And I was like it eight hours it does this at 1020. And that was like a big thing that I did for a while. And people would debate me they’re like no at 17 autophagy doesn’t kick in at 17 Does this and that study, and we get in the sciences studies. And what I always want to think about is that science gets us in the ballpark. But we need nuance. We need conversations like this, so that people understand that science is just helping us give us broad explanations of what might be going on. But we need to get to the biggest route that we can get to if we want to understand the human body. And two of the things we’ve talked about today, the power of the mitochondria and homeostasis are two things that I think we can’t emphasize enough.

Caroline Alan  

So and you know, the person who says no, it’s 17 hours, just whatever. If a person was fully mineralized, maybe it would happen in six right? I don’t know. We’ll

Dr. Mindy  

see. So I You see, right. So I just I just saw a study, because I’m writing my next book on serotonin and that there was fasting could actually activate the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor site, which is my new fascination in only eight hours of fascinating interest and like, how’s it doing that Nate hours? But again, if we, if we always say, Well, why is the body working? The body is always working for you always, always, always working, it just might not feel like that. But it’s always working for you. So with this understanding that that minerals help us bring normal processes back, how would one know outside of some of the symptoms that we talked about that they didn’t that they had a mineral deficiency? Do we have like classic signs of it?

Caroline Alan  

Yes, there, there are many classic signs, and ones that you wouldn’t think of. Okay, are you waking up a lot at night? Ah, mineral deficiency. Why is that? Because think about your nervous system. When I say it’s like having 37 trillion hangry cells. So literally, it takes your nervous system and it amps it up. And it’s hard to sleep when your entire nervous system is hungry and can’t quite get what it needs and is looking for this how that’s your entire nervous system. So I personally have had lifetime of insomnia. I have no insomnia. And so wake up one time and night.

Dr. Mindy  

And how old are you? Just because we put us a seat. Sorry. Let me just say are you postmenopausal? Yes. That’s all sorry, I. I need to put you on the spot. I’m just joking. Just so you know, every woman I meet, I asked how old they are. Because it just I think of women in terms of their menopausal journey. So that’s,

Caroline Alan  

you know, here’s what I’ll, what here’s my thing is when I go to the doctor, and they asked you to write down your birth date, and then they say how old you are. And I was right. ageless.

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, yeah. Cuz you don’t want to because I invite you, right? Yeah. Because I’ve decided, yeah, it’s

Caroline Alan  

old. And one day I wake up, and I feel you know, 50. And the other day, I wake up, and I feel 35. And the other day I wake up and I feel at, you know, so

Dr. Mindy  

yeah, that’s actually a really good point. I had I had a patient years ago that said, it was her birthday, and she was not happy about it. And I think she was turning like 60. And she said, I’ve decided I’m telling people, I’m 10 years older, I’m telling them I’m 70 Because then they look at me and they’re like you like so get right, like, Oh, I didn’t, that’s a strategy.

Caroline Alan  

I should start telling people I’m at Right,

Dr. Mindy  

exactly. So okay, so you’re postmenopausal and you’re sleeping through the night. That’s a miracle audio itself. So yeah, so that’s a biggie. Okay, so sleep is

Caroline Alan  

okay, one so just regular headaches, of course, because, you know, electrolyte deficiency always creates some sort of headache stuff, okay. skin issues, such as like rough skin, just not like No, no shine to your skin. It looks you know, like flat. Okay, you know,

Dr. Mindy  

that is one of the symptoms. I noticed when I started doing the minerals regularly is when I do the days I do um, it took about a couple of weeks, I noticed that my skin looked moister. And you know, as a menopausal woman, it’s like yeah, and you can even feel your skin some mornings I wake up and I go oh, estrogen, where’d you go girl? Like she’s gone. But that was one of the things that I noticed. Yes. skin skin moisture. Shine. You could call it shine. Yes,

Caroline Alan  

exactly. I kind of I feel like there’s a shine to it. It’s yeah flat because it’s yeah, probably it is just moisture. Yeah, right. So dry and dry flat non shiny skin. Yes, exactly. And Hair Loss hair loss and you know the way I like people to think about it think about minerals like because they generate all the energy in your body if you’re if your light is operating at 40% What’s gonna go to stuff that’s not really important to basic fundamental foundation i hairs Yeah, hair and hair important hair is not really I mean your kidney, your lungs those are the most important thing. So your blood you know the it’s going to focus on the basics and and other things you know those things like sleep well you can kind of get by well the sleep is really not the sleep is about the nervous system. Right that so cramping you know, I just had a conversation with somebody about this but I say that all cramping in the body menstrual cramping, tension headaches, of course leg cramping for circulation, they call it the creepy crawlies. These even a heart attack is a local mineral deficiency. Interesting, okay, into so to to remove cramping in the body. You have to provide a full spectrum of minerals. Because it might not it might be phosphorus. Yeah. How do you know it might be the imbalance between calcium and magnesium,

Dr. Mindy  

what do you think now you got me thinking about the menstrual cramping and I and you know I, I think I you know, I want to read re rebrand every aspect of female health. But I one of them has been the menstrual cycle. Yes, I think it’s a form of detox. Exactly. It’s a shedding. And when we have cramps, it’s telling us that one of two things that we have a lot of toxins that are coming out, or we could also what are we resisting? What are we trying to hold on to? Because I also feel like there’s an emotional shedding that happens to us every month that we don’t acknowledge. So do we know do you lose minerals in the menstrual cycle?

Caroline Alan  

Absolutely. Think of all he blood. There’s, there’s only one make tons of minerals in there. Oh, absolutely. Talk a

Dr. Mindy  

little bit about iron. That’s kind of Hmm. So if a woman is going the first couple of days of her cycle, if she’s cramping, if she’s tired, if she’s moody minerals would be a very interesting first place to go.

Caroline Alan  

I’m telling you that I work with I just literally walked into my gym the other day, this woman who’s who works there, and I had given her some minerals, and she has terrible monthly cramping. And she said, you know, come in my office, and I went in and she’s like, I just got my period. And I’m like, great. And she said, I had no cramping. That’s crazy. That’s crazy. And I hear this again and again and again. Yeah, but you can also use the spray. Oh, yeah. And you were gonna literally just spray it on. If you did on your ovaries. You spray it on your cramping uterus, or lower back or wherever you have the cramps.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, so go. So let’s go into your products, because now you got me early and trained. Yeah, but let’s go into so the fulvic and humic. You know, I want to go into what that means. And then I want you to come back to the spray idea here in a second because what I heard in the spray, is that it’s there’s a topical way

Caroline Alan  

to get meds, right transdermal minerals.

Dr. Mindy  

And And if I’ve been on birth control for years, and I’ve had a bunch of antibiotics, that might be how I’m finally going to get some minerals into my body would be absolutely, yeah, yeah. Okay, so tell me what I need to know about those two different foods, because that is and then I have to report back a couple other cool things that happen to me.

Caroline Alan  

Oh, yeah. So plant based minerals are truly an amazing thing. And what I I really want to give this description because they are Mother Nature’s mineral replenishment, and full system detoxification technology. Yeah, we didn’t design them, we put them here we create, we extracted them and brought them to people. But we didn’t design the technology. So here’s where they come from, imagine an entire rainforest back when the dinosaurs lived, and it decomposed over millennia into this mineral rich substance. That’s called humate. And it’s a, it’s a crystalline, incredibly black substance. There’s also other humic and fulvic substances around the earth one is called peat. The other is called Sheila G, which they have in Somalia has. So there are different kinds of substances, the one that our products come from is this humate. Okay, so it comes from below the earth. So it’s incredibly pure hasn’t had any contact with modern pollutants, which is really important when you’re thinking about mineral supplements. And inside of this substance called humate, there’s these two molecules, and one is called fulvic. And the other is called humic. And they have amazing properties and capacities. So not only do they provide a full spectrum of minerals that your body needs, like every single mineral on earth that your body needs. They also provide full system detoxification, and the enhancement of nutrient uptake into your cells.

Dr. Mindy  

That’s okay. So yeah, what I find really interesting about detoxing, is that it’s, it’s a circuitous path. Yes. And everybody has a has a different ride with it. So what I just heard you say is that if we turn to nature, yes. And we we find something that nature has already given us to be able to help us detoxify? Why wouldn’t we start with that first.

Caroline Alan  

And, you know, I was recently on a panel talking about glyphosate. And one of the things that I was saying is, there’s always been environmental toxins. Like, since the Earth First was formed. There’s been cellular systems that need to get certain toxins out whether it was sulfur from a volcano or whatever. So guess what, this earth this entire earth organism provided a solution, and it’s, it’s in humic and fulvic. How did you discover This literally I just kept going down the rabbit hole. So you know what happened to me Monday is that I, I was in the corporate world in the technology world and I burned out of it and I had flatlined. adrenals for like two and a half years, I had bad head hormonal imbalance. I had really bad inflammation in my gut, I had been gluten intolerant all my life. But I even though I had been gluten free, I was unable to get past the gut dysbiosis and all sorts of elimination problems a lot or awful lot of yes, that’s a lot of people, a lot of people, right. And then I also had really bad inflammation in my mouth with deep pockets and receding gums bone loss in my teeth. I had really bad sinus infections constantly, every season. Now, when you have that many different symptoms, you’re going to this doctor and that doctor and you’re trying and nobody’s looking at the whole picture, and they don’t even have any way to look at the whole picture, right? But I met my now business partner, Dan Howard, and he said, Why don’t you try these minerals? I was like, okay, they were easy to take. They’re liquid. And so I took them every day. And they tasted like water. It made it easy to print out the tape. And two months later, I went to my dentist and she looked at my mouth after having my teeth clean. She’s like, I mean, she exclaimed, she’s like, what’s going on? The tissue in your mouth is no longer red and inflamed. It looks healthy. You had your teeth clean, there was no bleeding. What is going on? And I thought about I was like, Well, I, I think it’s these minerals. So she’s like, just keep taking them. And then four months in, I went, I had my adrenal test, I went to my naturopath. It’s the saliva test. And she, like opened the book to look at the results. And she was like, Oh, my gosh, this is amazing. So literally, I had flatlined, or below flat, aligned adrenals for two and a half years, they were 1/3 of the way up with their natural sawtooth pattern that they should have. She was blown away why she had wanted me to take hydrocortisone and I was like I’m not doing so because of those two things. And then over a period, I went through the fall, I didn’t get a sinus infection, you know, and then I just kept, I didn’t get sick. I mean, I just, I just started feeling better and better. And people started remarking on it. And my nervous system calmed, I was able to kind of not I had more bandwidth for the stresses of life. And as a result, I, I literally just said, Well, how could that do that? Right? And I start simple. Yeah. And I started studying. And I studied cellular biology, because I started reading about these things, humic and fulvic. And there were all these words I didn’t understand. So I had to study every single word, you know. And it just took me down into quantum biology and molecular biology and chemistry and soil composition and plant decomposition. And, you know, on and on

Dr. Mindy  

sounds like my hormonal Yeah, it does. Like I was trying to solve my own issues. And I kept going, you go to one thing, and then you’re like, wait, but if this connects to this, and then this connects to this, and all of a sudden, you know, here you are, like years later, and you’re like, oh, wow, like, there’s a lot to this game of health, right. And I love this idea that we’re in an evolutionary mismatch. I love it. We just the human body and the modern world are not connecting right now. And we have to come back to the earth. If we want to bring health back, we’re gonna have to come back to the earth, which is why I love coming back to some of these simple concepts.

Caroline Alan  

You know, yeah. And in fact, you know, it’s my belief, or maybe I’ve been told, or it’s been downloaded to me that the reason we’re out of sync with the Earth is because there’s not enough Earth in us. We’re mineral deficient. If we can get the minerals back into humans, we will literally because when you follow it all down, it all ends up with vibration. We literally can’t hold the vibration properly. Wow. Because our minerals are all out of whack. And so, you know, that’s, that takes another Oh, my brain that

Dr. Mindy  

goes with that is like, like hills like. So like, and also if we can’t if we don’t have enough Earth in us, it’s hard for us to respect the earth. So it’s a really interesting dysfunctional relationship we have now so

Caroline Alan  

yeah, so you think about this humate material, right? Yeah. And about humic and fulvic. And think the mineral content in like, the ratios of mineral content in the substances in these molecules is exactly the natural ratio that our bodies are made of. So it’s already formulated.

Dr. Mindy  

I would that was gonna be my next question that cool. Okay, I did that is really cool, because my next question was what I started to do so, just so fill everybody in, on When I connected with you at Quito con, I had a scan done. And she said I was zinc deficient, which really actually made sense because zinc is a major precursor for hormones. And I’ve been on this hormonal journey and my, my nails I noticed stopped growing. It was taken, I noticed my period, the period between my hair cut was was getting longer and longer, because my hair wasn’t growing. And so when she said zinc, my brain went estrogen and testosterone and progesterone. I was like, oh my god, I definitely need to make sure that I that I get zinc back in. And then I was like, wonder if that’s my hair and nails. So I started doing I do a cap full each every day. I don’t know if that was right or not. But But literally within a week my nails were growing my I’ve had more hair cuts that like back to my my younger self. And I’ve been experimenting with bioidenticals and finding hormones that I don’t need as many isn’t that it’s a sin. And then my skin’s since I started taking the minerals. And I’m like, I don’t I don’t know what it is, but something I’m doing. And I like to experiment with one or two things at a time. I kind of understand. So you to my question is I don’t need to know, my mineral deficiency with your product. I can just take it and know that it because it’s from the earth, that it that I’m not over, I’m not going to do the magnesium calcium issue. It’s not going to happen to me. Right? Correct. That’s

Caroline Alan  

exactly again, because it’s formulated in the same ratio as your body is utilizing and made of and needs, then you don’t have to worry about that. Now what I will say is, it’s it’s absolutely possible, I don’t want people to think that they should never be aware if they have a deep deficiency of mineral of a particular mineral that they have, and it is good to get tested. But the answer is not. Again, to just think you can fill the reservoir by adding a whole bunch if you do have specific mineral deficiencies. You have to look at it the way you did look at it holistically. You know, if I’m, if I’m low if I’m having osteoporosis, well, have I been taking a lot of magnesium or am I absorbing calcium? Maybe it’s it’s actually never getting assimilated into micelles, you know, into your bones are made of cells, right? Do you see? Yeah, so

Dr. Mindy  

so it’s a little more wild wild west over there is what I hear. If you’re going to go after India, you’re going to try to move the needle on it. Like if I left that scan and said, Okay, I’m zinc deficient, I better up my zinc, then up in zinc may have thrown something else off,

Caroline Alan  

you know, or you might not or the reason you might be deficient in zinc might be because you’re not assimilating it. So now you have to ask, okay, now there’s, there’s all sorts of things that can get in the way of mineral absorption and assimilation, including parasites and other other things. So you need to you need to look this is that’s why I call this the vanguard of health. Because now what can happen is we can start looking at somebody’s mineral profile and go, Oh, well, this might mean that they, you know, I’m not a doctor, and I don’t work in this particular area. My My job is to just help people begin to think about minerals and mineral replenishment. But there are amazing people who can really they can look at your Mineral Scan and say, based on what I see, they’ll they’ll tell you like, and you’ll be like, Yeah, that’s true. Yeah, it’s really it’s incredible.

Dr. Mindy  

So okay, so then when I take them, this is the way I look at yeah, there’s a white, there’s a black, like, there’s a white liquid and a black liquid. And I remember thinking, which one goes which I don’t know. So I do the white in the morning. The black at night is no different one is fulvic. One’s

Caroline Alan  

humic. Yeah, so the fulvic is a gold, the Golden One. Yeah, that’s kind of more clear. Yeah. And the fulvic. Let me describe fulvic because it’s really incredible. So the fulvic is a very, very small molecule. It’s much smaller than a cell. And it’s what we’ve we all know where many people have heard of this term flavonoids. But what really is a flavonoids. It’s an intercellular transporter. So and fulvic is the most amazing flavonoid on Earth. Seriously, what it does is it carries 60 times its weight of nutrients and mineral content into the cell. And then it does what no other molecule on earth does, it changes its polarity. And when it does that, those things fall off inside the cell. Now they’re available to all those mitochondria as cofactors for all of that process, the Krebs cycle, when we cool when we think

Dr. Mindy  

we can live without nature. Yes, we’re so ignorant. So like that, that is brilliant that a molecule from the Earth would have a polarity to allow it to go into our human cells. And then once it gets in, it changes the polarity so the cell can use it.

Caroline Alan  

And then now it has a different polarity. And what clings to it heavy metals, bio waste environmental toxins like glyphosate, the detritus from a toffee G, and it carries those out of the cell. And then where does it go, and then it changes its polarity again, and those things drop off in the bloodstream. Now, we have the black one, this micro Boost, which is the humic molecule. And these fulvic and humic molecules, they always appear together, they have an absolutely synergistic relationship. So the humic molecule is much larger than a cell it hangs out in the bloodstream, it’s extremely has an extremely strong electrolyte charge. And it has a huge amount of surface area with all these receptor sites on the outside. And it binds with free radicals. So it’s an exponentially 1000s of times more effective than any superfood mix, or any of those things as an antioxidant. It correlates with heavy metals. It also removes and remediates glyphosate in your system and other environmental toxins. And ultimately, that molecule gets so heavy at a molecular weight, it falls out of solution, and it leaves your body through all the elimination channels. And that’s the key. So we knew we know from lot of detox, people, you know, understand that when you’re doing a detox protocol, you need to make sure certain channels are open, right, you know, so that the detox will happen, as opposed to your liver, your kidneys, etc. And the beautiful thing about humic, which is again, why I call it a technology that Mother Nature designed is it uses every single channel, whatever one is open, it uses your tears, your saliva, your snot, your breath, you’re rubbing your hands together, anytime, you know, all of this is detoxification, actually, of course it uses your skin, it uses your feces and in your own of course, as well.

Dr. Mindy  

So it’s like activated charcoal, we often recommend activated charcoal when people are detoxing. But that’s only going after the gut. Right? I suppose zeolite exactly, is another thing that we’ve used a lot. But that’s, that’s because it can cross the blood brain barrier and get into the brain. Yes, what you’re telling me is that this, that it’s the huge human human human is so smart, that it finds the channel, the way that it’s set up, it’ll find a chance.

Caroline Alan  

And again, we could say smart, or we could just say designed design or intelligent I mean, intelligent, it’s like it’s the technology of this intercellular detoxification plus, I mean, it’s kind of like, if you were gonna design a system, you’d probably design it that way, right? Yeah. You wouldn’t create make it really hard, right? Get rid of the bad style, right? Yeah.

Dr. Mindy  

Like a lot of things with nature. I think it’s so it’s better design than even this crazy modern world we’re living in like it nature just has figured it out. Yes. So then would you take the electrolytes in the morning and the micro boost at night

Caroline Alan  

like this, the beautiful thing about these again, that’s so cool is you can take them any time, you can take them on an empty stomach, they won’t break a fast, they have no caloric content there. They don’t require any digestion at all. Yeah, so the minute that you drink them, they start absorbing through the lining of your mouth, your esophagus, by the time they hit your stomach, some of the mineral content is already being utilized by your body. We’ve learned because we’ve been trying to hack our bodies, you know, through science to that, okay, I should take this thing at this time of day or this with food or this without food. But guess what, mother nature made it really easy. Do it anytime, because you know where you used to get this? Because you’d go to the stream or the pond where the humic and fulvic acid was being created when the plants were decomposing, or it was in the soil and you would just animals would just drink it. Wow. Do you see

Dr. Mindy  

so I can do? Like I just for ease? I do. I can do a cap in the morning of each and I’m good for I mean, like

Caroline Alan  

I could Yeah. Now again, because the humic is a detoxification agent for people who are very, very sensitive. They have maybe limes or they have autoimmune or they know they’re sensitive because they take a small amount of anything and they feel it okay. And they tend towards rashes or different, what we call Herxheimer symptoms. And we do have a really great article about Herxheimer on our website that’s really helpful to anybody who tends To that, because it really demystifies it and helps you understand, really, this is just your body saying, yay, I can get rid of all this stuff. And I’m gonna do it now, right? And so well, all you have to do is just slow it down. And the beautiful thing is because it’s not a pill, which is hard to, you know, deal with, it’s why it’s a liquid. So you can just take less, and you put it in a glass of water. So if you tend to be a sensitive person, you just do what I call the slow introduction method, you would rather than starting with a half cap, our standard, the standard amount for somebody as a half cap every day, if you take a full cap, it’s definitely not going to hurt you. And it might be fantastic. If you use muscle testing, you can do muscle testing and say how much should I take today and check that way too. But the the main point with the humic is that you just if you tend to be sensitive to slowly introduce it, maybe start with even half a teaspoon, right and four ounces of water and just drink that. Wait 24 hours. Did you feel anything? No. Okay, cool. Maybe do that for two days, three days, and then move slowly up.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, and then the spray? Yes. And I’ll tell you one thing I love about your guys’s products is that it is liquid and sprays and things like that I’m you I get supplement fatigue. After a while, as I think a lot of people do. And it’s like, I can’t just put another pill in my mouth. So So when would I use the spray.

Caroline Alan  

So the spray is really cool because it’s that fulvic molecule. Remember how small that molecule is? It’s much smaller than a cell. So when I spray this on, I’m literally providing minerals locally, directly into the tissue right into the muscle three seconds, one 1000 to 1003 1000 It’s already absorbed into the muscle. That’s how quick it is. It also because it’s a strong electrolyte reinvigorates the electrical system in the area. So when you have menstrual cramps if you spray it on, I mean literally I woke up this morning with a sore neck I sprayed it on I was like, I swear every time I use it. I’m like, this isn’t gonna work. And then I’m like, Oh, you’re that? Wow. Yeah, that really worked.

Dr. Mindy  

So So could you spray it over your thyroid? If you were having a thyroid challenge? You could

Caroline Alan  

I mean, I don’t I’m not going to tell you it’s going to heal your thyroid. You know, I actually that’s an interesting thought. Yeah.

Dr. Mindy  

I was thinking I’m thinking, yeah, like, I love your ovary idea. I’m like, where else? Can you spray it? And then my other question on that is then is it it’s the most localized way?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah. So the way I think about it is this, these ingestibles therefore chronic depletion, they work throughout your entire body. This is for acute depletion. So I actually use this at my desk because I spend a lot of time at the computer and my eyes get tired. And I literally just open my eyes like that. And because I have so many mitochondria in there, it feels amazing. Could I spray it on? Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

my prefrontal cortex? Yes. Oh, spray on my thyroid. Yeah, I don’t know. Well, I’ll try my eyes.

Caroline Alan  

Yeah. You kind of Blink them. Yeah, you do you kind of Blink and spray really? Any kind of far away? Yeah, no, no. So the beautiful thing about it is and you can feel your skin after it dries, is incredibly smooth. It leaves no residue, it has no scent. And it doesn’t literally just minerals and water. And not only just minerals and water. It’s also the delivery system for the minerals into the cells in the local area. Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

yeah. Okay. And then we can give them to our dogs to our animals.

Caroline Alan  

You can and in fact, you know, because particularly dogs who walk outside, their noses are right down where a lot of the glyphosate is in all of the, you know, landscaping areas along the road,

Dr. Mindy  

we lost one of our favorite dogs best dog we’ve ever had to lymphoma. Yes. And when we asked the holistic vet that we went to what was going on, she said the same thing that the dogs are down on the ground, they’re getting the toxins almost worse than we lead

Caroline Alan  

all of this stuff from the carbon monoxide. Also hard to yeah, yes.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, what do I need to know? Like, could I overdo it?

Caroline Alan  

What I don’t want anyone to go home and take like a cup of this, you know, but I think it really depends on your lifestyle. If you go and work out hard four times a week and sweat. You could easily take more than a half cap each. Let me tell you how these work. The cool thing about this is what we’ve got is two tools. Now you’ve got two tools in your toolkit. This one is about detoxification and immune system enhancement to the microburst. Yeah. And it’s the darker one and it’s the dark one. It’s human and it’s also about like, let’s say you’re gluten intolerant and you go out or and you go out to a restaurant you get gluten nice you feel like crap. Take Another extra half cup of micro boosts boom, or you go out with some friends and you have an alcoholic drink and you don’t drink very often and you just like, you know, have a half kappa that you’ll wake up, you won’t have a hangover. So it’s situational. So yeah, so you can use so as you use this foundational amount, which is just the half copy, but then you have a tool in your toolkit, more removal of toxins, if you feel a cold coming on, if you feel any itchy back throat or you know that feeling like ah, you just take it a little extra this boom, takes it out. Okay? This one, the fulvic is about electrolyte replenishment. Now, I know lots of people are using LMNT T or they’re using other I probably shouldn’t be saying that. But you know, they’re using salt based electrolyte replenishment, and I am on a mission to help people understand first of all salt based electrolyte replenishment is not good for the body when used on a regular basis. It’s it’s not bad if you are acutely electrolyte deficient and you’re about to pass out or you have heatstroke, get some salt, but used on a regular basis. It’s irritating to the lining of the bladder and the kidney. And it is not good for you. People who use salts a lot for electrolytes, they get cracked lips, they get weird stuff associated with their mucosa in their mouth. It is it’s not I mean, you think about it, what happens if you go swimming in the ocean for a long time and the way your skin is good. And you see it’s it’s you know, so it’s actually dehydrating to your body. Okay, so these are not salt based. And now you’ve got this incredible electrolyte replenishment tool that not only will give you the full spectrum of electrolytes, but it works like that, because it requires no digestion. So when you use a powder, or a flavored drink, or any of those kinds of electrolytes that require digestion, it takes like 3530 to 35 minutes before you before you really have an effect. Interesting. This works immediately.

Dr. Mindy  

Well, this has been fascinating. Absolutely. Again, it’s been fun, because I’ve known about your product for about six months, maybe a little bit longer. And the first time I got it, I was like, I don’t really understand what this all is. And then I when I had my nutrients tested, I was like, okay, maybe I should test this. And then I gave it a go. And I think the proof is in the pudding for sure. Like you are the proof is in the middle minerals, patients say I really could see a difference. So and

Caroline Alan  

I’m super excited for your audiences that are using fasting and intermittent fasting. I’m telling you, I had a friend who just did a water fast for six days, and all she used was water in the minerals in the water.

Dr. Mindy  

Yeah, it’s interesting. It’d be really interesting to do in a fasted state to see if it mitigates people’s how people feel. Yes, when they’re fasting. Yes. So I think there’s a lot of applications that are really, really fascinating, right, so, okay, I gotta finish up on my two questions. Yeah, I love asking everybody. This season, I really wanted to emphasize how people practice self love, I think primarily because I’m learning you know, how to take time and really nourish myself. So do you have a self love practice? And if so, what is it? And then the second question is, what’s your superpower? What do you bring to the world?

Caroline Alan  

Thank you. That’s so sweet. My self love practice is is a practice I learned from a man named Holly Alcala, who learn who who taught her opponent pono. And he’s, he’s passed. And in the whole upon upon, oh, we have a beautiful process. It’s called the care of the child. And so every day when I wake first come awake in the morning, I spend some time with my child. And I asked her, you know, tell her about the day and ask her, you know, your inner child. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah. And, or the Hawaiian in the Hawaiian perspective. It’s not necessarily the inner child the way we think of it in the West, but you could call it my subconscious, right? And, and I just kind of, you know, give her a little chance to, just to be with her without having to go and do stuff and get a lot of stuff done. And, and it’s, it’s a beautiful, amazing process. So that’s an I do it every day. Oh my god. So smart, so smart.

Dr. Mindy  

I do it gratitude practice. I spend 20 minutes every day just thinking of all the things I’m grateful for. And I’m going to add that in and it’s been a really fun exercise in the days that I really get it clicked in. I’m like, I those are the best days. We’ve been calling them. Mr. Rogers days, like the days that that is so

Caroline Alan  

Mr. Rogers. Oh, my God, I love the new turf. I

Dr. Mindy  

came up with that if I ever it.

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, after Roger.

Dr. Mindy  

Roger says Mr. Roger de, which means everything’s gonna be great. In the neighborhood, and there’s gonna be a lot of love and service and sell good. I

Caroline Alan  

think I’m gonna take that too, because gratitude is, you know, as an entrepreneur, we tend to look up the hill. So true instead of looking at what’s been created and being grateful, so thank you for Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

take it. Okay.

Caroline Alan  

The other one’s superpower, what’s your superpower? My superpower is that I can see really large maps, I call it it’s like, I have the ability to see connections between things that normally, you know, I call it kind of cross silo, like I can, I can see just really large things that appear disconnected to some people, but I see the connection between them.

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, my gosh, that’s interesting. You say that? Because I’ve been really reflecting upon what my superpower is. And I think our superpowers change over time. But I one of the things I’ve been telling people is like, I think I have the ability to look at patterns. And and for me, it’s been patterns of women and what they’re suffering with, and how do we look at health a little bit different? So it’s, I do think that is a unique skill set to be able to take a lot of information in and see what the common thread and yes,

Caroline Alan  

I think that you and I think from seeing your work, that you absolutely must have that capacity to synthesize like large data sets into very clear messages that can really help people. It’s a beautiful thing. I thank you for the work you’re doing.

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, thank you. I just you know, as I started this, I’ve my passion has been rebranding women’s health because it’s really stuck in a place that’s not serving us. So which is again, why a product like this for me, I think of those patterns, I think of the like my brain in this conversation was going well. Okay, what about women deal with this and women deal with that? And then I go, Oh, yeah, let’s take it down to the cellular level. Like it’s really fun when you start to see the formula evolve like that. So thank you for for this and I’m not getting off at anytime. Good. So just appreciate appreciate you, Caroline, and thank you for coming into my home here and flying all the way here and having this experience with me. So appreciate you.

Caroline Alan  

Thank you so much.

Dr. Mindy  

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