How to Permanently Release Your Heart’s Emotional Baggage with Dr. Bradley Nelson

Dr. Mindy Pelz 0:02 On this episode of The Resetter Podcast, I am bringing you a really fun conversation, a new way to look at the intersection of the human body and our emotional state. So I want to introduce you to Dr Bradley Nelson, who is the author of a wildly popular book called the Emotion Code. It was a few years back it came out, and I know everybody in my world was going crazy for it, and I think you'll understand why when you hear this conversation. Dr Bradley is a leader in bioenergetics. He is a holistic practitioner, and he has been teaching really quantum it's a quantum physics discussion you're about to hear, although I do not want you to be scared away by that thought, but he's been really teaching the world how our emotions get trapped. And in this conversation, I really wanted him to bring his work to the menopausal experience, because I'm hearing from so many of you and so many friend groups where we have spontaneous rage. I know that irritability is the number one symptom of a woman going through menopause. We have all these do not care clubs that are showing up all over the place. And I keep asking myself, is this truly because of a shift in hormones, or is there a point in which women go I've had enough, and years, perhaps generations of trauma start speaking to us as we move into these post menopausal years. And Dr Bradley has really a strong opinion on that, and I'm going to let you listen to him and make an opinion for yourself. This is a conversation of energetics in the body. It is going to feel woo woo at times, because we don't talk about the energetics and the frequency of emotion and how it affects us. So anytime we hear anything new in the healthcare world, we tend to reject it. But I want you to stick with this conversation. I want you to enter in with an open mind. You will hear a ton of science in here. You will hear a ton of stories of people who were able to not just heal themselves physically, but were able to heal relationships using Dr Bradley's Emotion Code recipe, and he's going to actually lead you through a really cool visualization that will help you have an experience with it yourself. So this was a really deep conversation around trapped emotions and what happens when they resurface, and most importantly, how do we let go of them? So Dr, Bradley Nelson, the Emotion Code, I hope you enjoy this as much as I did, and go get the book, and he's got a new book coming out, and just you Be your own, N of one, and make the decision for yourself if this is something you would benefit from. Dr Bradley Nelson, welcome to the resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again, if you have a passion for learning, if you're looking to be in control of your health and take your power back. This is the podcast for you. Dr. Mindy Pelz 3:39 Well, Dr Bradley, let me start off by just welcoming you to the resetter podcast. I am actually incredibly thrilled to have this discussion, not just for my audience, but I think I want it for myself. So welcome. I'm super happy to have you here. Bradley Nelson 3:53 Well, thank you so much for having me on. I'm really looking forward to this. It's an honor to be here. Yeah, Dr. Mindy Pelz 3:59 thank you. I'm really have been watching the menopausal conversation in the cultural zeitgeist, and menopause has gone from a place where we weren't talking about it to a time in which everybody's talking about it, but we're really talking about it through the lens of your suffering, because you need hormone replacement therapy, and where the conversation is now leading to and a big premise of my next book, that's that we're launching in December, is really that menopause is a transformational moment. It is a time where there's this massive neurochemical change in women, and that change is actually working for us. But what I've noticed in all the research I did in my own personal experience, in talking to experts, is it's a very, very common time for traumas to rear their ugly head. And so I really wanted to bring you on to talk. I'm fascinated. Had this idea of the heart wall and the trapped emotions in the heart. So could you, could we start with what? How would we know if we have emotion that's trapped in the heart? Or, how do we know if it's that or if we're just our husband's chewing his food too loud? Sorry. Okay? Sorry, because that's really what's going on here. Is all this repressed trauma is agitating us, which makes us all of a sudden feel like you're chewing is a little too loud. Bradley Nelson 5:35 Sorry. That's funny. Well, okay, so first of all, just just a little bit about me. I became a computer programmer back in the very early 1980s and and so learned about computing, learned about logic and so on. When I became a doctor and had my own practice for about 18 years, it slowly began to dawn on me that each patient that I was dealing with was actually a computer. There was really a computer within them, and that computer within them really had all the answers about what was going on with them. And so my work has really been to refine a way to communicate with that internal computer and get answers. And when you do that, you're really going to the source, and the subconscious mind will tell you that internal computer exactly what's wrong with you, exactly what you need, if you're deficient in a certain vitamin or mineral, or if you've got some kind of low grade infection, or if something's out of alignment, or if you've got emotional baggage. And what I found was the first of all, by accessing this internal computer, it worked incredibly well. During the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw, most of my patients, had been told there was really no hope for them at all in western medicine, and yet, by accessing the internal computer and getting answers, which now anybody can really do, and that's what our work's all about, is teaching everybody how to do that. The vast majority of those people, with only a couple of exceptions, were able to get well, and because the answers were all inside of them well. So what I found was that all my patients had something in common, no matter how young or old they were, no matter what they'd been diagnosed with, whether it was physical pain or some kind of mental or emotional issue, they all had something in common, and what that was, was their emotional baggage. Right? Now we use that phrase emotional baggage usually when we're talking about somebody else, right? We're describing someone Dr. Mindy Pelz 7:40 we don't want to open up ours. Bradley Nelson 7:43 No, that stays, that stays in the trunk. Yeah, Dr. Mindy Pelz 7:46 exactly, exactly. But we're happy to diagnose other people and tell you what their emotional baggage looks like, Bradley Nelson 7:53 absolutely in a heartbeat. No problem, no hesitation. But anyway, what I found was, and it was an astounding thing, really, once I began to refine this process of asking questions and getting answers, I found that most of the physical pain that my patients had was being caused to one degree or another by the emotional baggage that they were dealing with. And I found that this emotional baggage, and I'll explain what this is in just a minute. It was also an underlying contributing factor to every disease process. Now that we have seen, and this is now talking 15,000 people that I've trained in 108 countries around the world, we're all seeing the same thing, emotional baggage is a big piece of every disease, sometimes more, sometimes less. I think I've seen cases where emotional baggage was the only reason for for cancer, for example, to appear really interesting. So, so that was very fascinating and and so I I've eventually left practice and wrote this book called the Emotion Code. And the way that we explain emotional baggage is is this way. I mean, we all experience emotions all the time, right? And when you experience an emotion, that emotion is coming up for you in response to some kind of a stimulus. Maybe something was said to you, maybe you saw something or read something or or thought something, whatever. Anyway, that emotional energy, that that frequency of that emotion, and every emotion is a frequency. They're all different, but that particular emotion is coming up for you. It's welling up inside of you. And maybe it's resentment, maybe it's anger, maybe it's frustration, could be anything. And when that emotion is coming up for you, you're entering into what I like to call the first phase of the emotional loop. So an emotional experience is kind of like a little loop, and you start into that by beginning to feel that emotion. You might have certain thoughts that go along. With that emotion, you might have certain physical sensations even that go along with that emotion. And then most of the time, what happens is, as you continue into that loop, you acknowledge that emotion, and you allow it to dissipate its energy, the loop closes, and that experience is over, and now you're ready for the next emotional experience, If only that were how it always Dr. Mindy Pelz 10:25 went. Oh, yeah. So it's like, it's done, the emotional experience is done, and then you move Bradley Nelson 10:29 on, it's over. Yeah, right. But unfortunately, what happens to us is that oftentimes we end up doing one of three things. I mean, sometimes an emotion comes up for us that's just overwhelming, and we can't help it. It's overwhelming. Maybe your husband asks you for a divorce all of a sudden, or you find out he's been cheating on you, or or maybe someone's in a terrible accident, or you lose a parent. I mean, all of these kinds of intense things happen, and the emotion can just be overwhelming, and that will result in a loop that is stuck open, okay? And that's what we refer that's really what emotional baggage is. It's an emotional experience that was not allowed to complete now it's stuck open. You have an open loop, literally. So that's one way. Another way that we develop emotional baggage is, let's say that emotion comes up for you, and maybe it's anger at something that someone said or something did, and you decide, You know what, I've just I don't want to become an angry person. I'm just going to bury that. And so you stuff that emotion and you move on. Well, in that case, that emotional energy was unexpressed, and so now you have an open loop, right? And that's emotional baggage. The other way that we develop emotional baggage is if some emotion is coming up for you, and you decide to artificially enhance it, and so you end up maybe flying off the handle or being really dramatic. Oftentimes, these are cases where later we're embarrassed, right? Because, gee, I didn't need to get so upset about that. I feel kind of, you know, sheepish about it. That kind of circumstance also will create an open loop. And so when an open loop is created in one of those three ways, the emotional energy is still in the body and in this kind of suspended form and a trapped emotion. What we find is that a trapped emotion is literally a ball of emotional energy for about the size of a baseball, about the size of a maybe a small melon. And these things land in the body in different places, and then they create symptoms. But they don't. They don't. They don't always create symptoms right away. Sometimes it might go, you know, 10 or 20 years or even more. And in fact, one of the very first cases that I saw was a woman that came in to see me and she thought she was having a heart attack. She had crushing chest pain, difficulty breathing or left her left arm was completely numb. The left side of her face was numb and so sure, looks like a heart attack, right? And we were right next door to a medical center, so I told my staff, look, give me one minute with her. Stand by. We might need an ambulance. But I did some testing on her, and found that she had a trapped emotion. Now, in the Emotion Code, what we do is we use a chart that looks like this. I don't know if that's gonna focus or not, but maybe okay, there's 60 emotions on this chart. It's divided up into two columns and six rows, and so asking questions of her subconscious mind, and we use different methods of muscle testing to do that, I was able to figure out right away, within about one minute, that the emotion, there was definitely an emotion that was behind the symptoms that she was having, and the emotion was grief, and it had occurred three years before. And when I arrived at that, she burst into tears, and she said, I can't believe that's affecting me. I thought I dealt with all that. And I said, Well, can you tell me what happened? And she said that three years before she found out that her husband had been having an affair, and she confronted him with the evidence, and the marriage blew up, and she ended up getting a divorce. And she was, she was really so deeply in love with this guy, and was so betrayed and so hurt, and she she actually went to therapy for a year and dealt with it, and then it had even gotten remarried. So as far as she was concerned, that was just her ex. He betrayed her. She was over it, but her body wasn't. And that's how emotional baggage works. And so when I release that emotional energy that trapped emotion by just swiping a few times down the middle of the back, down the governing meridian, the feeling came back into her arm and into her face, and the chest pain was gone, the difficulty breathing was gone, all within the space of about three seconds. And she left the office about 10 minutes later, after joking with me and my staff. And I remember after she left, sitting at my desk, and my head was kind of spinning, thinking, What in the world did I just witness there? What. What was that? Well, we now know that you can literally die of a broken heart, right? The Japanese discovered this women, especially over the age of 55 if you go through some intense emotional event, your heart may go into failure. And if they X ray your heart at that point, your heart will probably look just like a Japanese fisherman's jar that, in Japan, they refer to as a Takotsubo. It's really interesting. I mean, the heart looks exactly like this bell shaped jar that the fishermen put on the bottom of the ocean for octopus to crawl into, and then they catch them. And that's the that's the final home for the octopus. That's unfortunate enough. But anyway, that's what happens. And so if you feel like you're having a heart attack, by all means, you know, call the ER or call the call the Lamins, go to the ER, but if they come back and tell you that your heart enzymes are normal and that, you know, everything seems to be fine, it wasn't really a classic heart attack, you may be on your way to dying of a broken heart. Now, that particular woman, I want you to think about this. That was probably 35 years ago that I worked on her and released that grief. She's never had another occurrence in her heart of any kind, like that. And she's, she's still, you know, we're still connected. She lives in Oregon. She's got a horse ranch. But I think that if we had not released that energy, that intense emotional energy from her, from her husband's, you know, infidelity. I think it's very likely that she, she may have died of, literally, of a broken heart. People would not, not have known that her husband's affairs really what killed her? What? So, Dr. Mindy Pelz 16:34 what is an emotion like? How do we describe what an emotion? Because we have an experience, it creates a thought, and then we interpret that thought and give it meaning, and therefore we have this emotional reaction. Is, is it a neurochemical reaction? Like, what is it that is an emotion? Bradley Nelson 16:57 Well, yeah, there. I mean, there's a neurochemical side of it. But what I like to do is go deeper. And I like to go down to the quantum level. And on the quantum level, at the smallest level of everything, you know, we are beings that are made of pure energy. I mean, if you, if you look at your hand, and you start zooming in with a big microscope, eventually you're looking at a cell, and you keep going. You're looking at a molecule. Keep going, you're looking at an atom. And if you look in the atom, look inside, you see there's there's really nothing, really nothing in there at all. It's just empty space and some little infinitesimal, tiny energy zipping around. And it's our reality is kind of strange. I mean, quantum physicists say that if you could remove all the empty space between all the atoms and everyone's body on earth. You could fit everyone. You could corral everybody on earth all. I think it's what, like 7 billion people or 7.8 billion. You could fit them all into a box, size of a sugar cube. They're trying to make a point that our bodies are really made of energy, and so that's hard for us to wrap our heads around, but that's the reality. Albert Einstein understood this, and he said the medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies. And Nikola Tesla said even before that, he said, If you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy and frequency and vibration. So so what happens as we as we get older, the emotional baggage that we've picked up, that we've been dragging through our life can often begin to manifest, because what happens is, when you're younger, you have a pretty wide margin of error, right? You can go out drinking, go to work the next day. You're okay. You can stay out all night. As we get older, you know, we we don't want to go to a lot and do a lot of those crazy things, and the margin gets thinner, and we know it, right? And so, so as we get older, and especially if you're a woman and you're starting to go through menopause, that margin gets even a little thinner yet. And then also you have the emotional enhancement going on because of the hormonal fluctuations, and so you become more of a more of a fine tuned instrument. In a way, you become more sensitive, sometimes hyper sensitive, to things. But what causes? What's the underlying cause of those, those hypersensitivities, is often emotional baggage that is there from things that have happened before in your life. It's almost like, well, it's kind of like, like, low tide, right? If the tide is in and all you see is the beach, you might think, Oh, the beach goes on forever. But if the tide goes out a ways, you might see, oh, there's all kinds of big rocks here. That's kind of what it's like emotionally. When you're going through menopause, or you start into that process, it's like the tide goes out and now these old emotional wounds and things and traumas are more easily identified. Just say they're triggered, identified. Yeah. Yep, yep. So something happens to you, and you all of a sudden, you're having, you're having an emotional reaction, and you think, what is wrong with me? This is not normal. I've never responded that way when anyone ever said that thing before to me, and now I'm upset. And the reason for that is because there's a rock out there on the beach, and that rock is an emotional baggage, or, in other words, a trapped emotion, an open loop, see, and so. So one of the great things about getting to, getting to be that age, if you're a woman, and going into menopause, is that, you know, it's a time of cleansing, yeah, yeah, right. It should Dr. Mindy Pelz 20:37 be. I mean, that that has been, that is, in all I, you know, I just spent over a decade researching this book, and that is really what I see, is, I call it the neurochemical armor. There's like a shedding of the neurochemical system that sort of kept us asleep and we didn't really quite feel all the traumas we were accumulating. And that armor comes down. And I really resonate, as a 55 year old woman with what you said, Where something triggers us and and that I observe in my own self, that there's sort of a moment of like, Am I really that upset about this situation, or is there something else in here, in This neuro system that you know in this body of mine that wants to come out. And I'll even share with you a story that a friend told me the other day, who's 43 and just entering perimenopause, and she said to me, oh my god, Mindy, the rage that is pouring out of me. It I don't understand what it is. And the zeitgeist response is, you didn't get enough hormones. And I keep, like scratching under that surface and saying, I think we have a lot of women who have repressed something, and that repression is coming out. So with with that in mind, if you are walking through your day and things are triggering you and they feel over exaggerated. What is there? What can we do? Is there something that we can do to unwind these emotions that have been trapped? Bradley Nelson 22:14 Yeah, absolutely. Here's a great example that comes to mind. There's only the woman that came to see me in my practice, and she was, she was, you know, going into that menopausal age, and was having, having some issues. And I was working with her, but one of the things that we found was that she had a trapped emotion of resentment. And in this case, this was something that had been a trigger for a long time. We traced the emotion back, and it started, actually became trapped around age 18 and resentment. And she said, Oh. She said, You know what 18? I know exactly what that is. And I said, Really? She said. She said, Yeah, that was it. Was this, this cheerleader from high school. And, you know, it's funny, because she said, and you know, she was probably late 40s, she said, when I think about that girl, even now all these years after high school, I can feel the resentment kind of welling up inside of me. And I don't even really remember now why I resented her so much, but I still do. And so that was a trapped emotion, an open loop, an emotional energy of resentment. So in other words, and how this sounds very wild, but this is how it is. She literally had this ball of resentment in her body somewhere that was connected to that girl, this ball of emotional energy. And so whenever she would think about that girl, that energy would activate, and her whole being would kind of slide into that vibration of resentment. And so the result is she feels it in an exaggerated way, right? And so, So sure enough, that's what it was about. I released it, and the whole thing probably took a couple of minutes. She comes back into my office. About three days later, she said, You know what she said last night, I was at a friend's house, a friend of mine from high school. We were talking about the old days, and that girl's name came up, and for the first time in all these years, I felt nothing. Amazing. I remember her, but yeah, I felt nothing. And that's that's really the power of the Emotion Code, because what we can do with it is we can very rapidly identify what these rocks are that are visible now at low tide, and we can release those. And it just, you know, literally takes, I mean, when a person learns how to do this, they can usually release a trapped emotion in about a minute. And so it's very fast. Can you learn to do it yourself. Yes, you absolutely can. And we teach you how, in the book, the Emotion Code book looks like this, of course, in English, there's lots of behind me on the wall. Got lots of other different languages, but, but yeah, the book is designed to teach you the whole process, and you can absolutely do it on yourself. And you can also do it on. Um, your kids so they don't we do recommend you get their permission if they're, you know, legal age, but yeah, Dr. Mindy Pelz 25:05 and so doing it on a kid would be so that they don't keep carrying these that those emotions in their body for years and years. Yeah, that makes sense. I love that thought. Bradley Nelson 25:18 I'll share a story with you our one of our boys. We have twin boys. We have eight kids total. My wife and I been married 44 years this week, actually, on the 20th Thank you. That's amazing, yeah, and we're still in love. Kind of amazing. But this work has really been helpful, you know, to get rid of all the emotional baggage, because we've all got it. But when we were first learning how to do this one of our boys. They're 36 years old now, but one of them was four years old, and he still was not speaking in complete sentences. And so we were trying to figure out what was wrong. And so we took him to have his hearing checked. His hearing was fine. And so we actually worked on him. And this might sound kind of strange, but the subconscious mind is the internal computer. It never sleeps. It's always running. You know, we spend our lives in our conscious minds and the conscious brain, but that's a very small part of our total intelligence. So anyway, we worked on him one night. He was actually asleep, but we were able to, we teach you how to do this in the book, you can communicate with the subconscious, even if a person is asleep or in a coma or whatever. And in this case, we had permission, because he was our child, and we found that he had inherited an emotion of anger from my wife's father, who was basically a rage Holic. I mean, he was, you know, really off the chart, angry, and was always blowing up, and it was a very unsafe environment. Anyway, we released that from him and a couple of other emotions, and the next morning at breakfast, now, he didn't know we worked on him, right? He's only four years old. The next morning at breakfast, he would not shut up. I mean, he was just talking non stop, a kid that had not formed a complete sentence until that morning, and my wife and I were just looking at each other like, can you believe this? But there's really no, there's really no, no barrier. You know, another story, I went to work that day, and I told I was telling people about this and how amazing it was. And one of my patients said, you know, she said, I wonder if my daughter has a trapped emotion. She said, My husband is an airline pilot, and so he's gone for days at a time, and when he comes home, our daughter, who's about, I think she was about five years old, she runs and hides from him. She doesn't want to see him, and it just breaks his heart. And I said, Well, bring her in, and let's test her. So her mom brought her in. We tested her. She had a trapped emotion, some trapped emotion about her father being gone that was altering her behavior. And so we released one trapped emotion. She took her daughter home. The next week, she came back and she said, she said, You can't believe it. She said, When my husband came home a few days ago, our daughter ran and jumped into his arms. She's She has not done that before, and just amazing. So, so you know that it's been such an interesting journey for me, because what, what we work on with emotional baggage is something that's totally invisible. You can't see it, but, but yet, it's, it's absolutely there. And with the Emotion Code, what we're teaching people is how to how to find their own emotional baggage and get rid of it. So that, you know, especially as we're talking about going into menopause, they're not, you know, being swung back and forth so into all these crazy emotional ups and downs, because they can find their baggage to get rid of it, and things can level out. Dr. Mindy Pelz 28:37 So when I, when I look at it through that lens, and I apply it to my own self. I think, well, shoot, now I I'm like, I've got a lifetime, plus maybe I have generations of this baggage. And I would say my new AHA cause I've done a lot of trauma work on myself in the last couple years, my new AHA when I have an emotional reaction is, wait a second. Is this appropriate for the situation? Or are you bringing, you know, a lifetime of emotional trauma into this moment? So when I hear the way you just explained it, I can tell you my motivating factor would be, could Is there a daily way I can clear emotions out of me is there, you know, my vision for menopausal women is that we start to see menopause as a beautiful time to reinvent ourselves, to start to come into new versions of ourself. And if you look at the way the brain remodels itself and the neurochemical armor comes down, but a part of reinvention is letting go of past behaviors and thoughts. So do we have to wait until we're triggered? Or is there like a daily practice? Yeah, what's the daily to just clean the system of these, this baggage we may be carrying around? Well, Bradley Nelson 29:57 absolutely, and that's, that's, of course, the emotion. Code method and and it's a it is a really simple method in the book. What we do is we teach people how to do it. You can use you have to get answers from the subconscious mind, because the problem is, the conscious mind knows very little, remembers very little about all the things we've been through. The subconscious, on the other hand, remembers, it's like a steel trap. I mean, it remembers everything with a perfect understanding, so we have to communicate with it. And so we teach different methods of doing that, for example, different methods of muscle testing, where you ask a question, the answer is a stronger muscle or a weaker muscle, right? You can use a pendulum, you can use different dowsing devices and so on. And it's all explained in the book, but it is a simple process, and it's something that even children learn how to do and are doing effectively. You Dr. Mindy Pelz 30:47 know, a lot of those modalities are like, I look at them, the crystals, the muscle testing, and I'm like, I'm fine with them. I can see how they would work. But I think the general public still doesn't understand what's the scientific reasoning behind that. So just so we don't lose people in this conversation, can you explain the validity of validity of those because it's so fascinating to me that we'll, we'll take an over the counter medication without ever asking what the side effects are. And if our doctor says, Take this, we're like, yes. But if all of a sudden you hear a conversation like this, where your emotions are trapped and you should run, you know, put a crystal over you, or muscle test. Now, people are like, peace out. Little do they know, the medications more harmful than something like this. So give us some context to understand that form of testing so we don't lose people, Bradley Nelson 31:41 right? Absolutely. Well, the fact of the matter is muscle testing or communicate. It's one of the ways that you can communicate with the subconscious mind is used all over the world by, you know, in the most advanced cancer treatment centers, for example, that are on the holistic side of things, choose by doctors of all stripes more so doctors that are, again, you know, leaning towards the holistic side of things, but, but there are, there are studies that show that that muscle testing is, it's definitely valid. There is a change that takes place. Think about it this way, if you're hooked up to a lie detector device, right? That's beautiful. There is a physiological change that takes place in your body. That's what's being measured on that device, right? And and so unless you've taken the the mafia course, you know, lie detector 101, they're going to know that you're lying right, right, because of those physiological changes that take place. So muscle testing is just a way to pick up those physiological changes without having to buy a lie detector or a bunch of expensive equipment. It's just easy to do it on yourself, and you can try this at home. For example, if I were there with you, Mindy, I could have you hold one arm out parallel to the floor. If I were to press down on the end of your outstretched arm, you should be able to resist me. Okay, if you were to make a true statement, such as, my name is Mindy, that would be true or congruent. If I were to press down on your arm, you would stay strong. On the other hand, if you were to say something that's incongruent or untrue, for example, if you were to say my name is Jill not true, if you were to try to resist my downward pressure at that point, your arm would weaken. And so this is something that has been known about for, for a long, long time. It began to be to come back into the consciousness of of the world. Back in the 1960s there was a doctor by the name of George Goodhart, brilliant guy. Yeah, yeah, you've heard of him. Dr. Mindy Pelz 33:36 My the chiropractor that I was, I'm, you know, I've been going into a chiropractor since I was a kid because I had ear infections, and he trained under, under good heart. So, yeah, yeah, okay. So, yeah, yep. Bradley Nelson 33:50 Very familiar with There you go. So, so basically, it's very interesting. In fact, let me, let me walk your your listeners and viewers, maybe through a little exercise. Okay, one of the simplest ways to communicate with the subconscious mind is with a little, a little test that we call the sway test. And here's how this works. If you take a plant and you put it near a window, if you don't rotate the plant periodically, the plant's going to end up bent in the direction of the sun, right. On the other hand, they've done studies. They found that if you put a speaker in a room with uniform lighting, and that speaker is blaring out really harsh, grating sounds, really certain, really intense kinds of music, the plant and the roots themselves will actually grow away from the sound coming out of the speaker, even though there's uniform lighting all around. And so the human body is an organism more complex than a plant, and yet we have that same capability. Our bodies will respond to positive or negative input. So here's what we can do now, if you, if you can, if you're listening or watching, stand up. Okay? Okay, empty your hands and drop your hands down by your sides, place your feet about shoulder width apart, and just clear your mind. Take a deep breath, let it out, okay, and just relax now. You'll notice, after a few moments, you'll notice that it's not really possible to stand perfectly still. Okay, there's always a little bit of movement going on. You might sway a little to one side or the other, maybe at some angle, very gently, and that's the result of your postural muscles working to keep you standing upright. Okay? They're always trying to keep you standing that way. But what we're going to do right now is we're going to give you a chance to let your subconscious mind, your internal computer, that incomprehensibly intelligent part of you that is unconscious, that's creating millions of new cells every minute, that is in touch with every trauma you've ever experienced, everything you've ever done, every face you've ever seen in a crowd, everything you've ever eaten or tasted or touched or smelled is all in there, in that subconscious computer. And we're going to give your subconscious computer a chance to speak to you, okay, through this medium of your physical body. So what we're going to do is, Is this our bodies, the subconscious mind will respond if we're holding thoughts in our conscious mind, and we hold those thoughts for for a moment or two, pretty soon, the subconscious mind will become aware of what it is we're consciously thinking. Now, if what we're consciously thinking about is negative or untrue, what will tend to happen is the body will tend to sway backward, okay, if you will, if you allow it. Now, I don't want you to force your body to do anything, but we're going to start with something really negative. We're going to start with with the word war. Okay, so with your eyes closed there and just standing very relaxed, imagine for a moment that you meet somebody that is from another planet, perhaps where war does not exist. And we've heard that word war all of our lives. But imagine trying to explain to that person, what is war? What really goes on when we're holding a war, right? When a war is happening, try to imagine, what are people doing, people wearing one uniform, what are what are they actually doing to other people that are wearing a different uniform? And of course, it's just legalized murder, right? Think about all the villages that have been destroyed. Think of all the families that have been ruined, and all the people that were in love who lost a loved one, all the children that lost their parents. Think of all the tears that have been shed on this crazy planet since the very beginning, because war has been with us since the very beginning and as you imagine what really goes on in war, at a certain point, your subconscious mind is going to connect with what it is that you're consciously thinking about. And in that moment, your subconscious mind will move upon your physical body, and your body will begin to sway backward, and that's your subconscious trying to move you away from the sheer negativity of that thought, right, those thoughts of war. Now, if this didn't work for you, you can try it again later, and let go a little bit. Allow your body to do whatever it wants to do, and don't force it. But let's try something else now. Let's, let's leave war behind, and let's, let's try something else, really positive, okay, because on really positive things, the body will tend to sway Forward. Forward is yes, backwards is no, and so, so let's imagine, close your eyes, take a deep breath. We'll let all those thoughts of war go away and leave them behind. And now I'd like you to imagine that 1000 years have gone by. You're living 1000 years into the future now, and you're living in a place of unbelievable, unconditional love. You feel totally accepted, but you've changed in a very profound, very significant way you've you've changed because your heart has changed. Your ability to love others has grown dramatically over all these years and all these centuries, and now you are a being that is capable of unlimited, unconditional love, in fact, the pure love that fills your heart for all beings, for all of creation, is so huge that your heart cannot even begin to contain that love. And that love expands out from your heart, and it goes out into the whole world, and it fills every crack and. Crevice, every nook and cranny, and it goes out even beyond this world. And imagine that love emanating from your heart, going out and filling the immensity of space itself. Now imagine for a moment what would it feel like to be a being like that, to be a an Ascended being that is capable of that kind of love. Because when we talked about ascended beings, to me, that's that's what that means. And so as you think about that, what that would feel like when your subconscious mind connects with what you're consciously thinking in that moment, the subconscious will move upon the on the physical body, and it will start to sway you forward. And so I know a lot of people that are listening or watching are right on their tiptoes right now, because that's how this works. So the point of this little exercise was to show you that the subconscious mind can speak to you through this medium of the physical body. Okay, now you can ask another kind of question. And this other question might be, do I have a trapped emotion that is needing to be released? Ask that question of your own subconscious. Pose that question. Do I have a trapped emotion? And again, as you're standing there, totally relaxed focus on that question. Do I have a trapped emotion that needs to be released? Speaker 1 41:29 Focus on that question. Grab a trapped emotion it needs to be released. Bradley Nelson 41:34 And chances are you will probably begin to sway forward. And that's your subconscious mind giving you a yes answer. So how it works is, and this, of course, is all explained in the book, but use the chart of emotions, and your subconscious mind knows whatever emotion it is. We identify these one at a time. So if you have a trapped emotion, your body says, Yeah, I've got a trapped emotion. What you do then is you go to the chart and you ask, Well, is it in column A and the subconscious will know, and if it is, then you ask, is it in an odd row, one, three or five? And if that's a no, you know it's in an even row. And you follow the process this way. And so pretty quickly, you're able to zero in and identify the exact emotion that it is, and and then it's a pretty simple thing. Usually you just release that trapped emotion. To release a trapped emotion. You can use your hand if you're working on yourself, or you can use a magnet like this, and you just start at the forehead and go over the top of the head to the back of the neck three times. If you find an inherited trapped emotion, which we receive at conception, that may go back generations, it takes 10 swipes over the governing meridian. That's what we're doing. This little Meridian starts the tailbone, goes right. Tailbone, goes right up over the top of the head. We're putting energy into that meridian, and it's 10 swipes to release an inherited emotion. But, but that's as easy as it is, yeah, and they're gone permanently Dr. Mindy Pelz 42:53 and, and the reason we do the governing, can you explain the the science behind that? Just yeah, we are you're moving. Are you trying to move energy? Are you just trying to calm? Bradley Nelson 43:04 Not, really. You're trying, no, what we're trying, what we're doing? Yeah, what we're doing there, the governing meridian is a it's a very important energy reservoir in the body, and it connects to all the other meridians, and it's a very easy way to get energy and intention into the meridian system of the body. And so when we're swiping over the governing meridian, we're just putting some intention, which is a form of energy. We're putting that energy and intention into the governing meridian. That energy flows into all the other meridians, and it releases and closes the loop on that emotional experience, because that's really what we're after. We're closing loops. And when that loop is closed, that experience is done now, maybe after 40 or 50 years, right? Or maybe it was inherited from hundreds of years ago. That energy now is gone, that that loop is closed. And so these, none of us doing this work have ever seen one of these emotions come back. It's a beautiful way to permanently get rid of these. And I like to fix things, you know, permanently. That's how I've always been. Nd, Dr. Mindy Pelz 44:06 what if you have a situation that you is traumatic in the moment? Like, you know, you're watching the trauma. Can you do the same? Like you don't need to test to see what the what the trauma is, or the feeling, or the emotion is, can you just do that like right afterwards is swipe that governance? Yeah, Bradley Nelson 44:24 you certainly can. Yeah, you certainly can. And that can be helpful. And the last chapter of the book, we talk about how you can live a life without developing emotional baggage and and so, yeah, that's part of it. Is. Part of it is just gaining more emotional intelligence and realizing you know what your your choices do, what burying emotions does? You know how you know you can bury an emotion, but it's still there. It's going to come back maybe in 20 or 30 years, and and so. And then that brings us really to the heart, and we want to make sure we talk about that's Dr. Mindy Pelz 44:58 gonna say that was gonna be my next question. Because I brought I brought a beautiful woman on a couple months ago, and we talked Kimberly Snyder, and we talked about the neurons in the heart. And I thought it was so fascinating to really think about the fact that we have so more neurons in the heart than we have in the brain, and yet we're always trying to change. We're trying to approach mental health through the brain, so but the heart, we have to bring the heart into it. So explain to me the heart wall and where the heart plays in this. Yeah, Bradley Nelson 45:30 absolutely. Well, let's see where to begin. Well, if we go back to the 1960s when they first started doing heart transplants, it didn't take long before they noticed a strange phenomenon where patients who had had a transplant would come back to the doctor and they would say, you know, weird things are going on. I love baseball. Suddenly, I didn't care for it before. Or they would say, you know, I used to not really like Chinese food, and now I just can't get enough. I don't understand what's going on. Or they would say, you know, what, I never cared. I always listen to top 40. Now all I can listen to is classical music. And there are these certain pieces that I just crazy. It's crazy, yeah. Or they would say they had right. They have memories of being in places they never in their life, had ever visited. And so when these people were connected with the family of the heart donors, they would find out, well, yes, our son was a baseball player. That must be why you love baseball. Or Yeah, our daughter visited Rome every year. It was her favorite city in the world. Now you have memories of being in Rome, and you say you've never, ever visited there, so those must be her memories. Ah, boom. You know, mind blown. Dr. Mindy Pelz 46:30 I've even just on that point. I I've read a book called The hearts code, and I in it is a story of a young girl who gets the heart of another child or another that was murdered, and she actually is able to find the murderer of the person who killed the the girl that donated the heart. Bradley Nelson 46:49 Yes, exactly they made. They were able to make composite drawings from her nightmares that she was being murdered. She was seeing the murder. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great story Dr. Mindy Pelz 46:59 of the heart of the child that was murdered. It's like, wow, that there's nothing. And then they caught the murder. They caught the killer. It's crazy. Bradley Nelson 47:07 Really, is amazing. It's crazy. The moral of that story is trying not to get a heart from someone that was Dr. Mindy Pelz 47:12 murdered. Yeah, careful who you get your heart from. So, but it's but I do think it's really interesting when you, when you when you look at the power of the heart to hold on to memory like that, absolutely. So back to the heart wall. Where does the heart right come in then? Bradley Nelson 47:30 Well, so here's what happens if you can recall a time in your life where you felt like your heart was going to break. Maybe you've been going through a breakup. Maybe you were really being heard, or there was something really awful going on. That's a physical sensation and and so yes, the heart is really we now know is a second brain, 40,000 dendrites in there, gray matter, white matter. And the messages between the brain and the heart, most of them are traveling from the heart to the brain. Scientists expected it would be vice versa. No, exactly, exactly, right. Well. So what happens is, when you feel like your heart is going to break, the subconscious mind will put up a wall around your heart. It will build a wall, and that wall is made of layers of your emotional baggage. And what we find is that about 93% of people have put up this wall. And the amazing thing about it is we discovered this on my wife, and she was dealing with depression and anxiety. She never really felt like she belonged anywhere, with any group she was ever with, until we were able to finally release that last emotion from around her heart. And then things shifted dramatically for her. The next I have to tell you the story. The next person that we saw was a woman that came in to see me for neck pain. Was about a nine on a zero to 10 scale. She'd seen a couple doctors for it, they hadn't been able to help her. And as I'm talking with her and taking her history, she tells me that she's 38 years old. She's a nurse, she's single, she has not dated in eight years. She's never going to date again ever. She's gonna she's essentially celibate. She's gonna die single and live a whole life single. And I, I said, Why do you? How did you arrive at this? And why do you, why do you want to be alone forever? And she said, eight years before, she was really deeply in love with this guy that dumped her and broke her heart, and that was it. So I tested her and found that, sure enough, she had put up this wall, this wall of energy, this heart, wall around her heart. And there were three emotions, three emotional energies making up this wall, and they all had to do with the breakup from eight years before. And so I cleared these three emotions. This whole process probably took about five minutes, and when I cleared the last emotion, her neck pain, which was a nine, went to zero. It's amazing. Suddenly was gone. She was so excited, and she left the office and didn't need to come back. But three months later, she walks back in, and I'll always remember this I saw in my hallway, and I said, Hey, how are you i. Remembered her because I'd never met a celibate woman before. And I said, Hey, what's going on? Aren't we? She said, Well, my neck has been fine, so I was here, but she said, You know what? She said, You cleared that heart wall from me, and that really works. She said, about two weeks after I was here, I found out my childhood sweetheart has been living right around the corner from me for almost eight years, and we're dating. We're in love. I think he's gonna ask me to marry him. And I thought, wow, I thought you were celibate. But this is not unusual. Dr. Mindy Pelz 50:35 Yeah. I mean, and I would say that after just, you know, working with so many people clinically in my practice, and now we get millions of questions and comments on all of our socials. There. You do see a pattern, especially in menopausal women, where there's something else, there's something else there, there they're doing all the right things, they're exercising, they're eating, they got on HRT. And there's something else that's going on, and that is what I've been really trying to bring forward in these conversations, is what else could there be? Because we're never out of answers. The body is a self healing, regulatory piece of equipment. So why does it keep offering us up these, these emotional and physical symptoms? So is there like, the idea of, like, clearing it every day? It is. I'm hoping that people listening to this might look at something they've got going on, whether it's physical or mental in their life right now and say to themselves, okay, I should give this a try, to see if this is becomes the solution. And down to my 89 year old dad just had spinal surgery last week, and I'm thinking, I wonder what trapped emotion might have been in within his spine. And so is, is, is there, you know, is it, do you have to keep you said, you don't have to keep clearing the emotion, but, but is there a continual process that we should be aware of? If once you hear this, is it like every morning, multiple times a week? Like, is there something we can do to stay congruent with what our body's perceiving as, as pain? Bradley Nelson 52:26 Well, yeah, absolutely. And I mean, it's not just pain. What we have found is that, first of all, depression. We've seen suicidal depression completely resolve in a matter of days when the heart wall is taken down. But emotional baggage is the underlying cause of of things like anxiety and phobias, panic attacks, post traumatic stress. We've seen cases of PTSD, where people were absolutely, completely changed from where they were before, after coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq. And we've actually seen women who worked on their own husbands and completely resolved all their PTSD issues within a month or so. We've seen cases like that. But remember also that emotional baggage is is a huge cause of physical pain, but but also, it's a component in all these diseases, and it and again, talking about it can definitely make the symptoms of menopause worse. It can make you into a more edgy kind of a person. It can make you, it can make you definitely not as fun to be around, or it can make it not as fun to be you. Dr. Mindy Pelz 53:36 Yeah, I mean, we're not having that much fun, although once we once we get to the other side and we start where you finally tell people what we think, because we've been holding it back. That feels like fun. That's a little fun, I'm not gonna lie, sure, but, but I really I'm seeing these patterns of women where this rage and irritability, in fact, irritability is the number one symptom of menopause, not hot flashes. And what I have witnessed is that irritability is not coming from a loss of hormones. It's not even coming from this moment that a lot of women are really irritable and angry about a lot of miss a lot of traumas in their life and ways in which they were mistreated, or ways in which we had to wrap ourselves up to feel worthy and loved, and so I actually believe that it's the number one symptom, because women haven't been using their voice, they haven't been speaking out, they haven't been saying what they want to say. So everything is repressed in there, right? Which is why what you're offering here is a very interesting, simple way to release that, because it's not really fun to walk around angry. Bradley Nelson 54:43 No, no, no, not at all well. And if you think about it, I mean this, this method is so simple, yeah, but under understand that about 93% of people we find have put up this heart wall, right? Because they've been through. Things, and they felt like the heart was going to break at some point. So the subconscious mind said, Hey, we got to protect the heart. So now there's a wall there, which makes it more difficult to find love, to fall in love, to stay in love, you know, to find your soul mate. Maybe you found your soul mate, but things aren't going that well, and it may be because there's a wall there, or, you know, he might have a wall. So getting rid of the baggage is a huge step. And one of the things that you can do is the, we have a new book coming out, actually, in December, that is specifically, it's specifically about this, this concept. It's explained in the heart, or is explained all you know, it's all in the Emotion Code Book. We have a new book coming out called the heart code it is specifically about this process. And so people can go to, they can go to my personal page at Dr Bradley nelson.com, it's D R, B R, A, D, L, E, Y N, E, L, S O, n.com, and they can, they can pre order these books. And if you, if you pre order 10 books, you actually get a free session. So you can do all your Christmas shopping right now and yeah, great gift for all of your friends, and then you get a free session from a practitioner. So Dr. Mindy Pelz 56:05 yeah, that's beautiful. One last thought I had was, you, I want to go to the ancestral piece of this, because when I first heard about an ancestral trauma, my my thought was, I got enough trauma in this life to deal with now I got to deal with what my ancestors didn't deal with. And so I was actually having a conversation. I started reading about it and trying to understand it. And so I was having a conversation with my 22 year old son about it, and I said, you know, the one thing I could say is that my grandmother had two alcoholic parents, and the story that I always heard was that she would have to be mindful, when she was dating my grandfather, to not let him in the house, because her parents were literally passed out on the ground if she opened the door. And I thought, you know, might we tell that story in my family very matter of factly, but that had to be really traumatizing. And then I went on to tell my son that my sister and I seem to have an extreme aversion to any family member getting drunk. We do not like to see our family members. So get drunk. It's is it possible that that is a trigger left over from my grandmother Bradley Nelson 57:21 So absolutely, almost without doubt, yeah, Dr. Mindy Pelz 57:24 and that's what it seemed like, because it's just like a real it's a body visceral reaction, like, I don't even want to see my family tipsy. So it explained to me, like, where we might be able to connect this to the ancestral piece, and is it in that little chart that you would just muscle test to see if, if that is the case, yeah, when Bradley Nelson 57:44 you're Yeah. And of course, it's all explained in the Emotion Code. But basically, what happens is, when you're using this chart to track down a trapped emotion, and you're getting yeses and nos if you're taken to a particular cell and you can't determine what the emotion is, that's your cue to ask. Well, was this inherited? And it'll be inherited, and then you can figure out what the exact emotion was. And we also figure out the genealogy, because the subconscious mind knows all this, and so it may go back for many generations. And the fascinating thing is just, just like what you're talking about, that's a perfect example of how in the present, you're feeling a certain kind of reaction or a certain sort of trigger to something that may not have even happened in your lifetime, right? And that's very typical. In fact, everyone has inherited emotional baggage. We now know what it is. We've been clearing it for a long time. Scientists know about inherited emotional energies, or traumatic inheritance. They found that with animals, animals will somehow pass down these memories, even in lower animals, up to 14 generations. They say they don't know how it works. They're looking at the DNA under a microscope trying to figure out how in the world, is this done. But it's a quantum phenomenon, see? So let's say that. Let's say a great, great, great grandmother of yours is jilted at the altar, and so she's got this tremendous betrayal emotion. Well, that may have been passed down the line, and so now you may be carrying that. And so now when you think about getting married, what comes up for you? Well, this anxiety, these feelings, like, I don't think I can do this, and so you may end up staying single your whole life because of a trauma that was experienced by an ancestor, or maybe some grandpa was thrown into the poor house, and so you have money issues. I mean, this is how it all works. It's crazy, because we don't just carry our own baggage, but there's two. Dr. Mindy Pelz 59:40 I'm a huge fan of evolutionary biology, and one of the things that really landed for me was, you know, you've, I'm sure you've heard of that study where they took mice and then they sprayed cherry blossoms in very blossom, absolutely the mouse cage, and tortured them at the same time, which is horrible, but. Four generations down, anytime there would be cherry blossom smell, that mouse would have a cortisol reaction, and they believe that it's because it's an evolutionary signal that changes within you to warn future generations about the danger that they went through. And to exactly that makes Bradley Nelson 1:00:20 sense, yeah? And that's exactly, that's exactly, right? I mean, there was a book recently, probably more than one, about to the grandchildren of Holocaust survivors, right? Yeah. And how, you know they're, they're different from other people because of what the grandparents went through. So, yeah, it's very interesting. But we, we now know it's just, it's just inherited emotional baggage. It's a quantum phenomenon. We can release those emotions and be free of them. And the crazy thing is, according to the subconscious mind of everybody that we've ever tested, it releases that energy also releases from those ancestors, apparently. So whatever you believe about where people go after they die there, apparently they still carry their baggage with them. Dr. Mindy Pelz 1:00:59 You know, my grandma died at 89 and I'm and I was getting really into mindset work before she died, and I said something to her about her emotional baggage. I'm like, don't you want to clear that before you go? And she's like, peace out. Dr. Mindy Pelz 1:01:13 I'm done. We didn't have language around emotional trauma or ancestral trauma at that point. I and she was like, No, I've done enough work in my life, so this has been great. And I really, I really appreciate what you're bringing forward. I think that the wave of healthcare is really going in the direction of a more holistic approach, and this is a key piece. So where do people find you? The Book Your practitioners, if they want to go, actually find someone to work with. Bradley Nelson 1:01:42 Yeah, we have practitioners all over the world. They can go to discoverhealing.com. Okay, and of course, the Emotion Code Book and our other books are available on Amazon and so on. If you want to get a special deal and you want to do your shopping early and get a free session, you can go to Dr bradleynelson.com. Dr. Mindy Pelz 1:01:57 Amazing. Well, Dr Bradley, I really appreciate this, and I'm going to get the book. I'm gonna go work on myself, and I'll report back. Bradley Nelson 1:02:05 Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. Dr. Mindy Pelz 1:02:09 Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. 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