Reprogramming Your Mind To Better Health (a timely re-release) with Bruce Lipton

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

On this episode of the RE center podcast, you are in for a mind blowing treat. So in this episode, I’ve brought you dr Bruce Lipton. He is considered the father of epigenetics. So if you have you’re not familiar with him, let me give you a little bit of a background about who I interviewed here and why his words will change your life forever. So he is a internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit, stem cell biologist, Best Selling Author of The Biology of Belief, and the recipient of the 2009 go Peace Award. He has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows. He’s a keynote presenter for national and international conferences. And perhaps the thing that he is the most popular for is his book The Biology Belief, where he really brought to us this understanding of epigenetics now, the way that epigenetics has been really profiled in the most recent years is that our lifestyle will affect our genetic expression. Yet what you’re going to hear in this episode is that Bruce will talk about how it is our thoughts that determine our genetic expression. And he’s going to do it in a way that is going to appeal to those of you that have a scientific brain, and those of you that want to understand more about the application of how we can change our thoughts. How can we change our programming, to change our health? We dive in to all of that. So I want to kind of give you an idea of how this conversation went. So the beginning part, we talked about the current situation. As many of you know, I have been searching for answers that will help us come out of this moment healthier, happier human beings. And he in the beginning, you’re going to hear something that really changed the way that I looked at positive thinking, the way that I look at the way I move around the world, and that is this idea that our conscious mind is taking information in, but it’s filtering it through our subconscious mind, and our subconscious mind is Really predetermined in the first seven years of our life, and it’s predetermined around the environment we grew up in. So if the environment we grew up in was one that was built around fear and worry the rest of our life, we will continue to put ourselves in situations of fear and worry about how in this episode, about how we can start to change the programming of this subconscious mind. Now this is pivotal, because as a collective human race, right now, if we want to come out of this moment a brighter, healthier, more unified human race, then the tips that he gives on how to really tap into that subconscious programming and how to start to change our languaging, how to change our thought patterns so that we can be healthier, really are pivotal, not only for your own personal journey and your own personal Happiness, but the world needs you right now to rise up to a place where we can have better thoughts about ourselves. We can have better thoughts about our health. We can have better thoughts about the human race. And Dr Lipton, he will give you the answers that many of you have been searching for. So stay all the way through. The end, it gets incredible, and I’m so excited to bring this episode to you. Welcome to the resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again, if you have a passion for learning if you’re looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you.

So here’s one of the main reasons I wanted to bring you on over the last year, it would be easy to watch the news, it would be easy to listen to our friends and to think that the world is falling apart. But one of the questions that I’ve had for myself is, is it really falling apart? Are we actually rising to a whole nother level of of human existence?

Bruce Lipton  

That’s a good answer to offer the audience

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

Great, awesome, that’s the answer. Is that the answer? So I keep thinking, Are we actually breaking down, or are we having a breakthrough,

Bruce Lipton  

both

same time? Okay, the story. I’ll give a story to cover that, because I. That’s one of the first things to get people calmed down, is to recognize you’re going through something that’s very critical, important. And a matter of fact, if you didn’t go through this, life is going to be worse, because facing an extinction process that humans have created. And so the humans, it’s humans, either humans change or extinction wounds. It’s you got two choices. Okay,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

so explain that a little bit, because I’ve also heard you talk about we are in the sixth possible human extinction. And I think this

Bruce Lipton  

is fixed. No, no six mass extinction. They occur before you five of them occurred before humans were here. The last, last mass extinction is when the dinosaurs were here and then they disappeared. Boom, okay, okay, this, this is the six recorded version through history of this, of this extinction process. But the most important point is that previous ones were all natural events that occurred that led to this one is solely due to human behavior upsetting the web of life, okay? And it basically says, Well, the way you’re living is causing this problem, which leads you to, well, if you don’t want to be in this problem, then you have to live in a different way. Starting now. That’s what the starting now, great, starting about 10 years ago, but nobody paid attention,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

right, right? Okay, right. So, so I do think, because I’ve thought about all these things over the last year, and I do think that there are, there’s a growing movement of people that are wanting to take better control of their health. They’re wanting to step out of fear. They’ve they’re not watching the news. They’ve deleted all the the programming that they’re getting from outside sources. What, how do we help those people? What is it that that we can do in this moment? Okay,

Bruce Lipton  

this there are two most important facts that if people own these facts, the world will change. Okay, right? Okay. Fact number one is that we are not controlled by genes. Genes. We control the genes. The old story that genes control our physical, our emotional, our behavioral traits, and then you inherit these genes, and then you’re saddled with, yeah, well, it’s running in my family, and I’m gonna I have the breast cancer Jane. And, oh my god, you know the breast cancer, Jane causes cancer. Now I’m worried like crazy, because I know I have a gene, and I know that people got no breast cancer, and everybody’s like, Ah, well, that’s stressed a little bit, right there. Yeah. And then I like to offer a little simple fact, there is not one gene, not one gene that causes cancer. The gene crazy correlated, correlated with cancer, but the gene itself does not activate itself. It doesn’t turn itself on. That’s a whole false belief that genes turn on and off like a light switch or genes on genes off? I go, No, no, a gene is a blueprint to make body parts. It’s a it’s a plan to make cells and muscles and bone and all these things, and put it in their structure called the human genes are blueprints. That’s a fact. There’s a wiser realm, I said. So you go into this architect’s office, you know, and she’s working on a blueprint. You lean over her shoulder, and you go, Hey, is there a blueprint on or off? She looks at you like it’s a blueprint. It’s not on and off. It’s a blueprint. Precisely you need an architect. And it turns out, consciousness is the archetype. And the reason is this, this is the new science called epigenetics. I go, Yes, everyone familiar with the old story genetics. Genes control this, and they turn on and off and blah, blah, blah. I said, now you’re a victim. Why? As far as you know, you didn’t pick them. You don’t like the traits. Can change them. Then we say, well, of course, they turn on and off by themselves. And all of a sudden start to realize, then I’m a victim of my heredity. Whatever been passed down to me is going to project into my life and I and then what we do is, now we get all the drugs in the chemistry to upper check myself against these genes. And I go, Wait a minute. There’s no gene that causes cancer. Cancer is due to a disharmony in the system. The gene is called in when there’s a disharmony. If the nd, I go, why is this relevant? Well, for example, let’s just talk about the breast cancer gene I mentioned. What’s the point? Half the women that have this gene never get the cancer. You have to stop and say, Well, what does that mean? Well, I’ll tell you what it means. Possession of the gene doesn’t cause cancer. No sense. So why is it relevant? Because you keep focusing on the cells that are supposedly the problem, and the cells are a mirror or reflection of. The consciousness of that individual, because the brain translates our visions into complementary chemistry. It’s sort of like paint by numbers in reverse. The paint are the hormones, the growth factors, all these things that create this body. Yeah, but I say first you start with a picture. The brain translates it into chemistry that complements and then that chemistry goes in the body to do what manifest a physical expression of what you just had. So yeah,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

are you saying? Then, if I know I have the breast cancer gene, I put create a picture in my mind of me having breast cancer now that gets played out in my cells and can actually create the cancer itself. And here’s

Bruce Lipton  

let me just add one little fact to that same story, only about 10% of cancer has a hereditary linkage. About 90% of cancer patients don’t really have that in their world, and yet they end up with it. And is the idea was, well, how can I end up with this cancer? I said, it’s the manifestation of the vision, the fears that you have been programmed with that occupy most of your consciousness. And those fears generate, generate chemistry released into the body. And this is what my research 50 years ago on stem cells, which are embryonic cells. I created genetically identical stem cells in three culture dishes. All dishes are genetically identical, but I changed what is called the culture medium chemistry. I make it in a lab culture medium, and I make three different versions chemistry. And in one dish, the cells form muscle. Another dish, the cells form bone, and the third dish, the cells form fat cells. And you have to stop and go, Wait a minute. Why did it become muscle here and fat over here? What was what controls that? And I go, they all have the same genes. It was the environment that was changing that. Okay, so, but there’s finished again in a plastic dish, I put culture medium. Culture medium is the laboratory version of blood. Okay, so the chemistry of culture medium is supposed to match the chemistry of the blood, okay, so I make slightly different variations of that blood and the cells have different expression. And I go, the cells were genetically the same. So I can’t say the genes made a decision. They made a decision in response to what was going on in the world. Okay, so now I say, so why is this? Now, let’s just take it back. I go, those are cells in a plastic dish. You are a skin covered petri dish, because underneath your skin is 50 trillion cells in a skin covered dish with the original culture medium blood. I say, does it make a difference of the cells in the skin dish or the plastic dish? I said, Nope, it’s still controlled by the environment. In the plastic dish culture medium, synthetic blood in your skin covered dish, the actual real blood is the culture medium. And I said, the chemistry of that culture medium is what made muscle cell versus bone versus fat. I say the chemistry. Then I said, oh, so the chemistry of the blood culture medium controls the fate of the cells. I go, Yeah, it’s above the genes, and that’s why it’s called epigenetics. Epi means above. So what’s skin? Called epi dermis? I go, what does that mean? Well, just underneath the layer of the skin, there’s a layer called dermis. And so when giving the anatomy name, they say layer above dermis. Oh, silpo, say epi that means above epidermis. So when I say epigenetics, what I’m saying, I say this factor is under genetic control. That’s conventionally, that’s interpreted as what genes control this factor. But if I say this factor is under epigenetic control, it’s a revolution. I say why? Epi means above. So what I’m saying is control epi above the genes, genetics.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

What’s above the gene?

Bruce Lipton  

Consciousness? Consciousness is controlling the genes by adjusting the chemistry of the blood. So if you have a picture of love, the chemistry that comes out of a brain of love is the most wonderful chemistry. It’s got dopamine for pleasure. It’s got oxytocin to bond you to your love source. It’s got vasopressin makes you more attractive, so your partner stays with you, and it has growth hormone, so blood from lovers have chemistry that is promoting life, growth hormone. That’s why people, when they fall in love, they glow, they’re healthy. I go, why? Because their chemistry, the culture medium, has growth hormone, which encourages growth and I say, but if that person has a picture of fear, you. Then all of a sudden, say that love chemistry, that the brain doesn’t release love chemistry and fear releases stress hormones. I go, so watch that. I said, Oh, stress hormone chemistry in your blood doesn’t promote growth. In fact, it shuts down growth because protection is to wall yourself off and to conserve energy, to run away from the fear. And I say, so when I put stress hormones in my cells genetically have a different behavior than if I put love hormones in. So as I change my thoughts, I change the chemistry of the blood, but the chemistry is the blood is the epigenetic control of my genes. Amazing. So all of a sudden it says, What’s your picture? What are you thinking about?

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

Yeah, right, so that, so that’s what I’m thinking, is I’m thinking, well, then the goal is to never be in fear. The goal is, if you want to be healthy, is to stay in love. That’s

Bruce Lipton  

There you go. That’s the nature of the game. Because when you’re in love. Guess what? You enhance your immune system when you’re in theory, you shut off your immune system right away. That’s 100% difference in outcome, right? And so the

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

environments, the environment you’re putting yourself in, is going to control your thoughts. And if your thoughts are now,

Bruce Lipton  

I want to fix that for a second. Mindy. Let’s fix it. It goes this way. You’re the cells in a petri dish are directly contact an environment culture medium. Okay, so cells adjust to the environment. I go well inside my body, my cells don’t know what the hell the environment is, but they have to adjust themselves. If it’s winter time, I’m going to increase my metabolism, stay warmer in the summertime, I want to decrease my metabolism, and sweat and cool off. I’m being adjusting to this environment. Okay, so I go. So what’s the relevance of all of this? And the answer is, the cells in my body do not see the real environment. They see my interpretation of the environment. I go, where’d you get that? I said, Well, when you grew up, you know, like kids that are, you know, programmed to be bigots before they even know who they’re bigot against. Oh, well, we don’t like those people. The kids four years old, never even met one of these people. And the parents are all talking about, are these people? Are the bad, bad, bad people. And now the kid is 10 years old and meets one of these people. And guess what? He’s got a filter. He knows, oh, you’re one of those people. Oh, those are the bad people. Okay? But the one that I give that actually, I put into an article, I really like it, because it’s, it’s like two, two kids are neighbors to each other, and there’s a yard with a fence, and in yard one, a garden snake comes out of the grass and wiggles across. And the mother and the baby are there, and the mother is a biologist, and she goes, Oh, look at this cute. This is a snake. And so and she picks it up and everything. And the kid is, oh, this is snake. I like that, you know. And I say, then the snake travels under the fence and goes in the next yard, and there’s a baby there, but a mother who freaks out and she sees the snake, and, you know, like the end of the world, he grabs a kid, runs away. Now it’s 30 years later, the two babies are grown up, two guys, 30 years old, walking down the sidewalk, and a snake slithers out of the grass and crosses the sidewalk. One of the two is going to go, Oh, look at that snake. Isn’t that? That’s a nice snake. The other one is screaming, bloody murder like I guess so, what was the point? And this is critical, they both are in the same environment, but they have completely different responses to the same signals. I go. Where do the responses come from? The first seven years of programming sets up our filters. What’s important, what’s not important, houses, and therefore, after that, this subconscious is where those filters are. Are running the show. So if that snake shows up, and the mother of that one was the biologist, and he looks at this thing as a snake, but if the snake shows up and the other one, whose mother freaked out sees the snake. He’s got a filter that says, Oh, that’s a scary damn thing, and he’s gonna freak out. Then all of a sudden, I said, well, then how do you respond to the world? Right? How were you programmed? Because the first seven years of life is where we get programs of how to respond. I go, how do you get those? And here’s the cool part. For the first seven years of a child’s life, when you put wires on a person’s head, you record brain activity, electroencephalograph, EEG, right? The vibration of a child under seven is not maintaining a level of consciousness. It’s below consciousness. It’s at a vibration. Called theta alpha is a consciousness that’s a higher vibe. Theta is below consciousness. I say a child up to seven is predominantly in theta. I go, what’s theta? I said, Well, characterize imagination. And I go, that’s how a child we have a tea party. Under seven, we pour the nothing into the cup, we drink the nothing, and we talk about how wonderful the tea was. That’s a Tea Party, okay? I go, why was it relevant? And the answer comes down to this, is that imagination is that character? And I go, Yeah, but here’s the killer theta is also hypnosis. If you want to hypnotize somebody and download a program into their subconscious, you put hypnosis and I go, Yeah, but a child’s in hypnosis for seven years. I said, why? Answer is intelligence of the system. And that is why, if I say Mindy, show me a book with all the rules that you have to, have to be a member of a family and all the rules to be a functional member of a community. How big is that book all the rules? All of a sudden, oh, my God, it’s got 1000s and 1000s of rules to be a functional member. I go, but an infant can’t read, and an infant has to become a member of a family, and has to become a member of a community. So I said, Well, how do they get that knowledge? And the answer is, first seven years hypnosis, watch the Mother, the Father and the community, and download what you see just like a video camera. And by age seven, you have observed how your parents respond to all these different things, how your mother responds. It’s different how your father responds. It’s different how the neighbor responds. But you’re getting the download picture. So a child by the age of seven has experienced all the different behaviors to become part of that community, and it does so by nothing more than watching, observing and then major. But the last fact, Mindy, I keep showing up. But I gotta give you this one, because, no,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

I have so many

Bruce Lipton  

thoughts. Here’s full circle. The conscious mind is the creative one, connected to your wishes and desires, your spirituality. The subconscious mind only has the programs in it. And I say, when we’re operating from the conscious mind, we’re creating from our wishes and desires, but when we’re operating from the subconscious mind, that’s just push the button, play the program. Push the button, play the program. It’s habit, habit, habit. Okay. And then I say, Well, how much of my life am I using my creative, conscious mind to manifesting my life. And I go, 5% I go, wait. 95% the conscious mind is not looking out the window. It’s looking inside, because that’s where thinking occurs. So I say, Mindy, tell me what you’re doing on Thursday at two o’clock. And right at this moment, it’s not in front of you, but if I give you a moment, you’re going to go on Thursday, I’m doing this. And I go, where do you get this from? I said, Well, this is the programming. Okay, it’s built in. But I also say, but where did you get that program? I stopped looking out the window, and I went inside my head and said, Thursday. What am I doing on Thursday? I’m not looking I’m inside. So I say, so the conclusion, when we are thinking, the conscious mind is not looking out the window, it’s inside, so that means it’s not controlling a behavior. I say, yeah. But if I’m driving a car and I’m thinking, does that mean I’m the car’s out of control? I don’t know. Subconscious is autopilot. Moment I am thinking, subconscious grabs the wheel, it will drive that vehicle just the way I was programmed to drive the vehicle. Why it’s a habit? Okay, I don’t have to think about driving after I learned and made it a habit. You could put the key in the ignition and not once think about all the things that you had to do the first day you got in a car, mirrors, gages, listen to the engine, and now you can drive without thinking about I go, Yeah, but 95 this is then conclusion after I’m sorry so many words, but

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

no, no, it’s awesome.

Bruce Lipton  

Conclusion is 95% of your life is not coming from your creative wishes and desires conscious mind, 95% is coming from the programs that you have because you’re spending time thinking with the conscious mind. So 95% of your life is not coming from your creative wishes and desires. It’s just playing the program. And I say most of those programs are self sabotaging, limiting and disempowering beliefs. And I say you play those 95% of the day, and they’re not yours.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

No,

Bruce Lipton  

they’re not yours. You’ve got them from where download. That’s not what you wanted. That was just the program you got. Okay, so, so what’s the relevance about this? Well, where’s conscious mind when you’re playing this program? I was not watching Conscious Minds inside, I guess so. Why? Well, when you’re playing the program, did you notice anything about that program was a good program, bad program. I said, How the hell you know you were not paying attention? You were inside. And all of a sudden I go, so finally, I will come to a closure and let you ask a question finally, but first I my last final. I always say that, then there’s always another slide. But yeah, again, my last one right here is story, same story 30 years because it’s like the most valid boom, hit you in the head. You know it’s like this, you have a friend. You know your friend’s behavior very well. You know your friend’s parent. One day, you see your friend has the same behavior as their parents. So you got to tell your friend, you go, Hey, Bill, you’re just like your dad. And then I say, back away from Bill, because the first thing bill is going to say is, how can you compare me to my dad? Nothing like my dad. And everyone in the audience starts to snicker and laugh because they’re familiar with it. And I go closing story and why it is the most profound one everyone else can see that Bill behaves as like his dad. Bill’s the only one who doesn’t see it. I mean, why not? Why is he playing it? Oh, his conscious mind is thinking. So he’s playing the program he downloaded from his dad in that first seven years. And then what? Well, he doesn’t see it because he’s playing it only because he’s nothing. He’s thinking he’s not paying attention. Yeah, okay. And then I go, and now the conclusion, that story is very interesting. Everyone else can see that bill’s behaviors like his dad. It’s only bill can’t see it. And then my favorite punch line, we are all bill. Every one of us is doing what Bill does every day and you don’t see it’s the behavior that you’re playing when you’re not paying attention, behavior that supports you, or is it behavior that compromises you? How do you know you didn’t see it. And so how would I know? The answer is, 95% of your life is coming from the program. So I said conclusion, your life is a printout of your program. Are you a happy program? What’s that you are the program? And

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

your program was your parents or your community from zero to seven, absolutely.

Bruce Lipton  

The Jesuits, they always had a saying. For 400 years, they told people this, and nobody understood. And the Jesuits would say, give me a child for the first seven years, and I will show you the man that’s a famous saying. So what were they saying? I said, just exactly what I just said, first seven years, I even got that right, is the program period, and then 95% of the rest of your life is coming from the program. So if I get the channel for the first seven years, I essentially have control the rest of the life of that program. And I say, and who are the programs people? I said, we are. We are. There’s nobody that got to this point without having programs, because you can’t use your nervous system without a program.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

The million dollar question has to be, how do you change your program if you didn’t like if the first seven years was rough and you don’t want to repeat the patterns, perhaps, of the adults that programmed you, how do you how do you change that?

Bruce Lipton  

I never heard that question before. No, I’m lying. I’m lying like crazy. Ever since day one, when I tried to tell people how the mechanism works, the first question is always, well, how do I change that? And I go, Well, that wasn’t my job. My job was show you how it works. But I do have answers after all these years, I hope so. The idea is this, the programs are in the subconscious mind. This nd by the fact that it’s called a program, it’s also a habit. I say as a habit. You don’t want to change that. If I think there are habits that are good and there are habits that are habits that are bad, I say, when did you learn how to walk? Oh, before two, you learned that program. Why? You practice. You stood up, you fell over, you practice. You got the system to learn to control, and you talk, we’re walking. Okay, I go. You know what’s great. You that same program will run to your 150 years old. You know, it doesn’t change, and thank God it doesn’t, because, right, yeah, well, I don’t want to have to relearn how to walk. So I go, Cool, about a habit. Habits resist change, because if they change, then they’re not habits anymore. Okay? So I said the subconscious mind is a habit mind. I go, Oh, geez. Now I got programs in there. I want to change. I say, resist change. And I go, Yeah, but guess what? I can learn new habits, right? Pick up an instrument. I don’t know how to play it, but if I practice make habit, I can put it. I can learn that. Okay, so I said, here’s the problem. Like we have confused the conscious and subconscious as one blah mind. I go, No, no. Two different minds make the mind. These two minds have different functions, and they learn in different ways, and that’s where the problem comes from. What’s the different ways? Well, the creative mind, by definition, is creative. I can learn it anyway. Look, just listening to this conversation, I can learn something. Walk away with it, right, right? I could just go, Aha. I have an idea. I just put a new vision in my conscious mind. And I say, does that translate to the subconscious mind? I go, No. Subconscious Mind doesn’t learn that way. I go. So wise, irrelevant. I say, Well, I read all the self help books, man, give me a test. I didn’t give you 100 on how to live this most wonderful life. And I said, Are you living that wonderful life? You can get 100 No. And I go, that was the problem. You could read the self help books educate the conscious mind, but that’s not translated into subconscious program. And so going to the lecture and reading the book and watching the video, I can educate conscious mind, but it does not change the program. Now I say, Oh, the subconscious mind learns in different way. I go, Yeah, first seven years how to learn theta, the low vibration below awake consciousness that it was recording. Okay, so I say, oh, every night, when you go to bed, the if you put wires on a head, when you’re at work, is a higher vibration called beta, and then when you come home, vibrations slow down to a calmer consciousness called alpha. And just at the moment your eyes close and you disconnect consciousness, the vibration has just now dropped into theta, so your conscious mind is not aware, but your subconscious mind is open. So keeping earphones on at night to play behaviors that you want, programs that you want. Beautiful. Part about it is you might hear some of the program while you’re still alert, but the moment Alpha shuts off, guess what? The speaker are sending words, and your conscious mind doesn’t even hear it, but your subconscious mind is still working so you can take new habits. It’s called self hypnosis, okay, okay. Number two, not only self hypnosis or theta work until age seven, but you learn things after age seven, to drive a car, play the instrument, do the job, whatever I say. How do I say repetition? You want something to be real. It’s called practice habituation. You actually have to live it. And I go, the New Age phraseology always makes me laugh about it. It’s called Fake it till you make it, meaning, I’m not a happy person. I go, you want to be a happy person? Yeah. Then I say all day long, every time you could think about you say I am happy. I am happy in the middle of keep saying I am happy. Repetition will ultimately cause habit. Habit is one day you wake up and guess what? You’re happy. You didn’t even say it. Why? That’s the program I downloaded it. Wow. Okay, so after age seven, you can put new programs in, but you actually have to do an exercise, a habituation, a practice to put it in. I like to offer this as a sticky note on the mirror. A lot of people think, Oh, that’s it, that it’s a suggestion. It’s not a habit. It does, oh, yeah, don’t eat the donut. Yeah, I got it. Okay. That’s not a habit, that’s a suggestion. I’ll end up eating the donut. Why? Because I didn’t change anything at the original subconscious donut loving program. You know, if I want to change it, I have to change my vision of donut, right? Repetition, okay, so that’s number two, both one and two self hypnosis. Repetition is a time consuming exercise. Okay, however, necessity being the mother of invention, we are going extinct because of our behavior, and we have to change our behavior. We don’t have a lot of time. So nature came up with, Hey, you can change behavior using something called energy psychology. And there’s about on my website this moment. Bruce lipton.com, I have listed on that website about 20 to 30 different energy psychology modalities. They all essentially get to the same conclusion, but through, you know, different pathway to get in. And I go, so what’s most relevant? I go, these changes in programs can occur in minutes. Once you know what you want to change and what you you know, what is it? The harder part is, what’s the program I want? Yeah, or if you. Figure that out. That makes sense. I may take longer than let’s put the program in, because you can do it in certain cases in minutes and walk away minutes later with a different life. Just walk out the door different life. These are the three fundamental ways. And I say, and then before you, I say, before you use these three fundamental ways to change the program. Of course, the first question is, what’s the program that I have?

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

I was just gonna say. How do you know what the program is? If you’re too close to it,

Bruce Lipton 

And guess what? When did the program go in? Well, actually, they’ve started programming before you were born last trimester of pregnancy. So let’s say a mother plays music by her abdomen, and the fetus is growing, and the fetus hears that music. When the baby is born, you play that music, the baby will instantly recognize that music. It learned already. Okay? So it starts in the last trimester pregnancy, and it goes for age seven. So now I say, Oh, you got program. Okay, what programs you get in utero? What was your mother experiencing in her life? Because her blood with her chemistry, whether it was love or fear, based on what she was, was the blood that was programming your cells as a fetus, so she was genetically expressing things in your body through her blood. Okay, just like my own blood is controlling me here. But as a fetus, I’m living off my mother’s blood, which has information in it. Okay? So I say, Well, why is it boring? I said, Well, can you remember the program when you were in utero? No, oh, well, you had a whole year from zero to one. Can you remember the any of the programs? No, okay, from one to two, a whole year you got program. Do you have a full memory of what programs have it? No, by the time you get the three you might say, Yeah, I remember some things. Okay, but here’s the point. How do I know what the damn programs are? They were programmed before I was conscious. Thank you, Mindy, for letting me come to this most important Yes. Tell us, yes, your life, 95% is coming from the program the subconscious. I go, why is it relevant? I say your life is a printout of your program. I go, look at your life. I go, why the things that you like that actually come into your life. They come in because you have a program to, you know, bring them in. But the things that you wish for and desire, and you have to work hard and sweat over and put a lot of effort in. I’m I’m gonna make this happen. I’m working. I’m gonna make this happen. I said, Why are you working so hard? And the answer is, whatever that destination is, your subconscious program doesn’t support that, and you’re trying to override it. I will override I will lose weight. I go, that’s a conscious decision. I said, You tell the subconscious about I said, Why? Because weight is a setting in the subconscious, not a setting in the conscious mind. Conscious Minds. I don’t want weight, and sometimes just like, that’s the program. And I say, so what are you gonna do about I say, Well, you have to change the program. And I go, why is that relevant? Well, I could diet. That’s me overriding this thing. I said, Well, I work really hard. I hate it. I hate this stupid diet. I’m eating cardboard every night, but I’m gonna lose weight. And I get down to this weight, and I go, great. I let go. Program comes right back up. Wait, right back where it was before Okay, so I go. So why is all this relevant? And the relevance is this, it’s not easy to take the conscious mind, which works 5% of the time, to override the subconscious program running game 95% of the time. So the idea that’s where the problem comes from. So now we’re left to the conclusion, what do you want to change in life? I said the things I’m struggling with, relationship, money, health, whatever. If you have a struggle, it’s a reflection of a program. So now you know what you want to change, and then you have to and the harder part, as I said, is you’re going to write a program and stick it in. So you have to be very careful in the writing of that program. It can go in faster than it takes the time to write it. It’s really important. I’ll just give you an example. Oh, let’s say I have a disease. What’s my wish? I want to be healthy? Oh, let me put that into the program I want to be healthy. So let’s record that today, Mindy and Bruce today, recording what I want to be healthy, I put it into my subconscious mind, and we come back next year, same time, next year, and I say, Hey, how’s that working for you? And the answer is, nothing, nothing changed. You know, through all of that, and I go, what you haven’t changed the program, using a technique to change that program. Yeah, so. And what is the Now, here comes the conclusion, what did I just program? I want to be healthy. Guess what? Next year, same time I want to be healthy, I say you can’t get to be healthy. Why you put the word want is a desire. You’ll always be in desire. I want to be healthy. It’s like I’m Oh, oh, what’s the program I am healthy? I say, you’re sitting there with terminal cancer, and I say, and what are you telling yourself I am healthy? That sounds so absurd. I go, No, because it’s a program that goes into the subconscious, and the function of the mind is to make that program real. That’s what it does right now. It takes your subconscious programs and makes them real. Why? Because then your life is just as you expected it. God, I didn’t think I was gonna get that raise, and I didn’t get it. I go, wow. Well, you know, your creative reality was, I didn’t think I was gonna get it, and you didn’t. I You didn’t okay. So, so basically it says, if your life isn’t working right, then it’s this is really you have to look and say, what is the destination I can’t get to? And then start to recognize, if I want to get there, then I have to write a statement as if I’m already there. Because my mind, if I say I want, my mind will say, okay, you can want this for 100 years. So one could have a 500 years, you could still want it. But if I am then the function of mind is to make it I am healthy. Then the mind goes, looks at the body goes, holy crap. You got terminal cancer. You down. Oh, program, healthy, okay, changes the chemistry, adjusts the genetics, and will turn you back into healthy. Again, amazing.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

And so affirmations work

Bruce Lipton  

repetitively. It’s a, it’s a, it’s a habituation. You have to repeat it religiously. It’s not like, oh, today I was thinking some very positive thoughts. I go, that’s nice, right?

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

5% of your

Bruce Lipton  

day. Who cares? It doesn’t make any difference to the 50 trillion cells that are operating from the other program. And so all of a sudden I said, those cells have to be habituated. This is the book,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

so you can’t complain your you can’t complain your way to a different life. Oh,

Bruce Lipton  

no, that makes it worse. I’ll tell you why cells are you know, the subconscious mind is like a five year old child. I go, why is it relevant? I say, if you want a five year old child to actually do something, then you’d be nice to that five year old child. But if that five year old child and you yell at it, you stupid, ignorant. Blah, blah, blah. I go, that that five year old child is not going to really support you anymore. It’s going to go, I hate you. I go, Well, why? What’s the problem? I say, Well, you were yelling at it to fix something. It doesn’t like you because that’s the way you treated it. Then it’s not necessarily going to support you. It doesn’t care, yeah. So it’s really cells have a consciousness to them. So if I injure myself, truly, I touch wherever I’m injured. If I cut myself, I touch it, and I see it, and I say, this is healing. We’re going to heal this, right. Here you go, what’s that all about? I go, why, in a normal presidency, if there’s a disaster in the States, does the President go to the disaster site? It takes the attention of 300 million people focusing on what the disaster and the energy of that 300 million people is infusing that population with health. And you know, that’s what the collective energy is about. So I say you got 50 trillion cellular citizens. Something goes wrong with the cells. Take the government the mind, and say, you send these cells. Yeah, Hey, folks, we’re, we’re, this is going to get healed, right here I’m touching it. Why that’s the president landing where the problem is. And that brings the attention of 50 trillion cells a year, and that facilitates the healing. Amazing. If you yell at the yourself and complain like crazy, I go, who listens to that, not the cells.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

So what could we do something as a collective consciousness right now, in this moment, could we all put our attention on what life will be like when this situation is over? And would that have a accelerate the movement in a more positive direction, 100%

Bruce Lipton  

you can’t have a war unless you get enough people to believe in a war. I can’t go out in the street and say, let’s have a war today. And everybody looks at me like, What are you crazy? You know. So there’s a war happening. But if I get out on the street, get half a million people say, Yeah, we’re right. We’re that bar. Prepare that war is going to happen. Okay? And I say, so why is it? We ourselves? You. In a evolving body called humanity, 50 trillion cells inside your body we have how many? Near 8 billion cells comprising something bigger. And when we understand that’s the destination, all of a sudden, you realize, do you like it when your cells attack each other. That’s called autoimmune disease, self destruction. The answer is absolutely not, what? What is healthy harmony and 50 trillion cells. I go there, but they’re all different kinds of cells. They’re all different colors. Brain is white, liver is red, you know, all these different green in the bile. I go they’re all different. I said, Yeah, but they work together to create a human and I say seven to 8 billion human cells coming together create a higher level called humanity amazing. And this is where we need to go. We need to go out of I’m separate from you, and you’re a different color than me, and you have a different religion than me, and I go, Well, that’s separation as anything could ever be. And evolution is not separation. Evolution is the opposite of Darwinian theory. Darwinian theory is competition and survival of the fittest. And it turns out that is completely wrong. That is not evolution. A garden is not a battleground. A garden is the height of cooperation among all the organisms that comprise that garden. And I go, so why is it relevant? We came from a garden, and our lack of cooperation with that garden is destroying the web of life garden, and we’re facing our own extinction because our behavior is not in harmony with the world. This is the wake up call. Says, You better learn to live in harmony with nature. You are not outside of nature. You are nature, right? We didn’t come here like God created everything, and then said, let’s add some humans. No, no, you came from the garden anywhere and I go. So why is it relevant, if we came from the garden to destroy the garden, then, by definition, you just destroyed yourself. And this is where we are in this mass extinction. Amazing.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

If you were the Surgeon General of America, right now, what would you

Bruce Lipton  

do? Well, the first thing is, first take care of yourself to be a functional element in this community. Because if you’re not a functional element, then you’re actually weakening the community, because somebody’s gonna have to take care of you and take care of the problems you didn’t deal with. So the first thing is personal health. We are responsible. Epigenetics is the science that says, yes, your environment and your perception are controlling your genes. If you’re not healthy, is because you’re not in harmony with your environment or with your perceptions, that’s the problem. So everybody should really start to recognize, look, we make culture media. Remember the chemistry of the culture medium controls the cells. I go, what kind of food are you eating? Industrial farm crap with poisons and toxins? Are eating organic, natural, healthy food that makes a difference on making culture medium blood. That’s why you eat the food in the first place. Okay, so we have to start recognizing we need to really eat better to live in harmony with ourselves and ourselves with us. Secondly, most of our food is so short of some very important vitamin supplements and for health to endorse and support the immune system. The most important recommendation is large quantities of vitamin C. I take 2000 milligrams, actually called two grams of that every day. Vitamin C, because it enforces and supports the immune system in this time, so does vitamin D, another thing that most people are weakest in, that also enhances and supports immune system, magnesium, zinc as supplemental elements the I want to make culture medium in a lab. You I don’t go get my ingredients at Kmart. When I make culture medium, I buy the most pristine, best ingredients in the world, because if I compromise on the ingredients and put those medium into the culture dish, you can watch the cells get sick right away. The culture medium has to be fully supportive. So eating an organic, natural taking vitamins and supplements, especially vitamin C and D at this time, yes, exercise why? The blood is cleaning and taking care of the body, but the blood needs to have this circulation system to push it so it goes through all the filters and does all this stuff. And if you’re sedentary, you’re not supporting the cleansing and cleaning up and maintenance of your body. So exercise, something from just walking, just get the hell out of that house and start walking. Is great. Exercise. Okay, so now we have, what three things we have, diet, supplements, exercise and number four, this is the one we talking about for last hour. And I say, What are your thoughts? Because your mind. Is going to manifest them. If they’re negative thoughts, then you’re ready. It’s coming. If it’s positive thoughts, and congratulations, because you’re going to improve your vitality, your health and your enjoyment of living in this beautiful garden that we have. And so I say, yeah, if I was in that position, I say, First, take care of yourself. There’s an old hippie thing from a million years ago. It says, before you go out and save the world, take care of your own backyard. Yes,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

or Gandhi? Was that Gandhi? I don’t know if it’s Gandhi, but he’s he was Be the change you want to see.

Bruce Lipton  

Well, that’s it. So we have to take care of ourselves first and then participate in a community of others. Taking care of themselves and the environment. Taking care of yourself is all since you are the environment, if you’re gonna take care of yourself, you better damn well take care of that environment, because you’re a reflection of that so all of a sudden, you see what we can come out of this self destructive belief system that we’ve been programmed with, programmed that life is competition. People are threatening. They want to take away yours and you’re going to protect their I go, that’s not real. That was a belief system that programmed us. Amazing. And so the idea is this, you first have to take care of yourself, and you can look and here’s if I if I have to say, the most important aspect of getting there is to look in the mirror and say, I love that person. I say, why is that relevant? I go because when we do believe changes like those, energy, psychology things, and we test for beliefs, listen to this number, between 80 and 90% of all participants, they will not test positive for I love myself and I go, that’s eight to nine out of 10 people. They go, why is that? Because when we were young, parents used to think, if they criticize us, we’ll make a better effort. I go, but if a child’s under seven, they’re not thinking, they’re just recording. So when the parents, the kid cries because he wants a toy, and the parent says, you don’t deserve that, the child doesn’t understand really the meaning behind that, but the child did record it. I do not deserve I go for the rest of the child’s life as a program. I say, why is it relevant? Well, then 95% of the day, if the mind is going to make that program real, it’s going to compromise that person. So at the end of the day, the person goes, Yeah, I didn’t get it again. I guess I don’t deserve it. I go, that was a program,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

okay? So fascinating. You need to do

Bruce Lipton  

this. And it comes up because love is glue that holds it all together. And if you don’t love yourself, no one else can love you by legitimacy, meaning, if I don’t love myself, and someone comes up and says, Bruce, I love you. And I go, Well, you have no quality control, because I know enough. And then I will push that person away. And at the end of the day, then I’ll come home and go, No, I’m not lovable. Nobody’s here. You’ve been pushing them away all day. Where the hell you are

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

fascinating? Oh my god, I could talk to you forever, and I want to respect your time. I do have a couple of questions for you. You’ve already like, my brain is just going now and I can’t, I can’t wait to go to bed tonight and see what I can program in there on the way, on the way into the sleep. If you had, if there was one person on the planet right now that you could sit down and have a great conversation with and learn something from, who would that be? Everybody, huh, yeah,

Bruce Lipton  

everybody. Everybody can show me something that I don’t know, because obviously I don’t know everything Yes, and everybody has something Yes. And therefore to say that all the answers come from this one voice that would actually that unfortunately redirects people. They buy that one voice. But if that one voice has any flaw in it, then everybody else just bought all the flock too. So be open and listen and observe and find things that feel good. Because when you feel good, that means the chemistry that’s going from your mind is making harmony. That’s why feeling good is is a reflection. Yeah, 50 trillion cells are happy. Why? I feel great.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

I love it. What is there a book that changed your life that you would say everybody needs to read? Outside of the Biology of Belief? Definitely, everybody needs to read that book. But there

Bruce Lipton  

was a long time ago book and much better versions of it, but I read a book by an author, Heinz Pagel is a physicist, and it was all about quantum physics. And I go not quantum physics with equations and mathematics, which is like, I don’t get that, but quantum physics and meaning principles, when you understand it’s like, Oh, my God, the fundamental principle of quantum physics. And let me emphasize this. So of all the sciences on planet Earth, quantum physics is the most valid, the most you know, tested affirmed to be true. There’s no science with more truth in quantum physics. So why is quantum physics so important? You ready? Principle number one, consciousness is creating our life experience, and all of a sudden it says, My God, that’s not a new age suggestion that is the most valid science on the planet. Change your consciousness, and you will change your existence on this planet.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

Physics, amazing. Okay, well, you’re incredible. Let me leave you with I know people say this, but let me leave you with this question. If you had nd, you probably already answered it, but if you had one message for the world that you could get into their subconscious programming and really help them see live a happier life, what would that be?

Bruce Lipton  

That’s something that I learned that I never had in my life, until I got it, and then my life profoundly changed, and that is simply this, as a scientist, I did not believe in spirituality. I believed Here I am, animal, live, die, amino acids back to the soil again, but through the understanding of physics and then supported by epigenetics, consciousness is creating this, the situation we’re in. And if the world you’re in doesn’t look right, is because the consciousness you are using is supporting that world, and that it’s time for us to recognize we’re spiritual entities that were here, visiting this planet using a virtual reality suit called the body. And the day that I close with this, because we gotta shorten it, but the day that I was recognizing, and that was my science of epigenetics, which was the environment controlling the genes I also recognize. No two people are the same. Biologically, we knew that, because I can’t transfer my organs into you, your immune system will say not cell. You put your cells in somebody else’s body, their immune system says not self. The point is very clear. Obviously there’s a self, because the cells are not interchangeable. They have a serial number on them, and the serial number in this particular case is a set of self receptors. And when I started put together, I said, Oh, my God, we are downloading an environmental signal through these receptors that makes us different. And my cells respond to a certain vibrational frequency, because those are the protein antennas of self, on myself, you have a completely different set of protein antennas. You’re getting a whole different broadcast. And the moment I realized, I said, Wait, I am a broadcast playing through this body. And so my closing sentence is, as a I can’t die. Why this is like a television set, and my source is the broadcast. And I go, you’re watching a TV, TV breaks. You say it’s dead. And I go, Yep, it’s not working anymore. But is the broadcast still there? And the answer, of course, it is. That doesn’t change. And if a new TV set, a new body, shows up with the same antennas that you have your back, different body. It could be male, could be female, could be white, brown, black, yellow, red. That’s the TV set. Okay, I started to recognize this. I said, Oh my god, I’m immortal. I can’t and then the last thing that I was going to say, got to it now is as a scientist when I first recognized, oh, my God, there’s a spiritual part and a physical part. And I asked myself a question, science, why have both? Why not just be the spirit? And this is when I remark, the joy of my 50 trillion cells turned out to be like Jewish comedians. And I go, What do you mean? I said. I asked the question, why have a body and a spirit? Why not just be a spirit? They welled up. The answer came from inside and hit me right ahead, and the answer was a question. I asked a question. They answered with a question. I said, Why have both? And the cell said, Bruce, if you’re just a spirit, what does chocolate taste like? That is so profound, because

you’re gonna

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

answer that a

Bruce Lipton  

virtual reality suit the cells make vision, the cells make convert sound into vibration. Smell is vibration, okay, touch, love, emotions, vibrations that the body creates that sends back to the broadcast. And so then why are we here to create and to experience? And if they’re great experiences, continue doing that, and if they’re sucky experiences, well then don’t do that anymore.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

That. Simple, Yeah, amazing, yeah. So, change your vibration. Change your life

Bruce Lipton  

exactly. Recognize you are the vibration. Yeah, amazing,

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

amazing. Well, you’re incredible. And how do people find you your your website’s amazing, by the way. Oh,

Bruce Lipton  

we got new one. It’s beautiful. Bruce lipton.com and it’s got a community page, which is the best thing, because so many people started to connect with each other over the same Oh, I had this problem. How did you deal with it? Or this person had this disease, what did they now there’s a dialog, and that was the intention of part of the editing of this new website was to provide a place for people to carry on the dialog and then give each other ideas and information how to make a better world.

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

Yeah, wow. Well, this was the this was the highlight of my week. Even though it’s Monday, I’m just gonna say that you elevated my thoughts today. So I just want to say thank you for all your work and your consistent work. I mean, you’ve been saying this message for decades now, and we’re still right. It’s still right. We need you more than ever now. The world needs you. So thank you for keeping up the pace that you’re at.

Bruce Lipton  

Thank you so much. And I want to thank our audience, because those are the other cells, that when they get this and we come together in a new body, a new form of humanity, the futurist as bright as anything you could ever imagine. Thank you very

Dr. Mindy Pelz  

much. Yeah, thank you so much for joining me in today’s episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we’d love to know about it, so please leave us a review. Share it with your friends and let me know what your biggest takeaway is. You.