Feeling Depleted After the Holidays? How to Replenish with Caroline Alan

Dr. Mindy  

On this episode of the Resetter podcast, I bring you one of the founders of beam minerals, Caroline Alan. Now if you’ve been listening to me for a while, you know that I am such a huge fan of minerals, especially for fasters. And what I have learned in all of your questions in fasting so many millions of people, is that there’s a little confusion in what’s the difference between potassium, magnesium, zinc, what are fulvic and humic acids? How do you know which minerals to take. And so bee minerals has been my go to for minerals, and Caroline Alan’s brain is one that I absolutely love, because we both really honor the fact that the body heals itself, and through that lens, there’s a lot we can learn, including which minerals to take. So in this conversation, you’re going to hear a series of several things. One, you’re going to hear, how do you pick the right mineral for you, so that you’re educated there. You’re also going to hear, we had a really fun intro to this discussion about this ecosystem, that our human body is that we are living in a system that is much like the planet Earth, it is always trying to bring itself back into balance, and how we can use food, fasting and even supplementation to help bring itself to this perfect balance. So I think you’ll really enjoy that part of the conversation. But then I know a lot of you are doing a dry January, and so I applaud you. I love this idea that we give a break from these toxins, but I also want to offer a little deeper understanding, which is, there’s taking a break, and then there’s back filling in with the right nutrients to bring this beautiful ecosystem you live in back into balance. And so I wanted to bring Caroline to talk about how you could use bean minerals to help not only detoxify what alcohol has done potentially to your body, but to bring balance back after December and all the toxins that are involved in chronic drinking, how do we back fill in with minerals? And then the last part of the conversation is really neat. We talk about a three day water fast. A lot of you will be fasting in January. Some of you will be fasting with us, and I wanted to bring to you a protocol and a drink you could drink in your fasted state that would make a three day water fast or any extended fast much easier. Caroline also has given us some incredible recipes for mocktails that will make getting off alcohol easier. We have an incredible fasted drink that’s gonna make fasting easier. And so there’s a lot in this, and I’m really excited to bring it to you. And there’s a link for all the recipes. There’s links for discounts and articles that we talk about in here. So if you’re wanting more, make sure you look at the show notes. So this is a really fun one. I think you all will love it as an addition to your commitment to getting healthy in January. So as always, I hope this helps. Welcome to the resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again, if you have a passion for learning, if you’re looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you.

Dr. Mindy  

So Caroline, let me start by welcoming you to the resetter podcast, and I’m so happy to dive into all things minerals with you once again.

Caroline Alan  

Thank you so much. And you know the feeling is completely mutual, such deep respect for the work you’re doing. Thank you. Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

you know it’s, it’s, I just want to bring the audience up to speed on my discovery of minerals, because really how I discovered it was in teaching so many people how to fast, I didn’t quite understand why some people could build these fasting lifestyles and have extraordinary health, and other people could build these fasting lifestyles and their hair fell out, or their women’s cycles went off, or their experience within the fast became really difficult, and so I was looking for that through line of what is it? And I, in my own discovery, figured out, oh, our soils are mineral depleted. People don’t have as many minerals you go into the fasted state. And that depletion revealed. Itself, and so that started me on my mineral journey. But then where you come along for my brain was really understanding how the quality of minerals matters. So before we dive into talking about dry January, how to create mocktails using your incredible products. Why we want to backfill in when we get off something like alcohol with minerals like these are important topics. Can you talk about the fulvic and humic acid minerals, and where you get them and why they’re so important? Yeah,

Caroline Alan  

first of all, fulvic and humic are we call them molecules. People call them acids, and fulvic and humic acids are just fulvic and humic that have been extracted using acid, so it results in an acid, and that’s what’s used in agriculture. It’s also there are some consumable fulvic and humic that are acids and they just taste bad. So that’s why we use a different process that results in humic and fulvic molecules where they come from. I like to tell the story, because it’s something people can remember. So if you think about the Earth back when the dinosaurs lived 65 million years ago, and a meteor hit the Yucatan and it killed 75% of all life on Earth in a few hours. And all of these rain forests around the world died and decomposed. Now these are fresh water plants, and when they die and they decompose, they create humic and fulvic and they’re humic and fulvic substances around the Earth. In in the Himalayas, we have Sheila Jeet in the British Isles, there’s something called peat in the Amazon Basin, they have something called black soil. We use something that comes from the southwest United States. It comes from about 10 to 12 feet below the earth. It’s a black crystalline substance, and it’s called humate. So humate is this powder, and we take that powder, which is incredibly mineral rich, to the point where if, if you were just using that powder for mineral replenishment in your body, you’d probably only need a half a cup in a year. So that’s how incredibly concentrated is, wow. We take that concentrated powder and we extract into liquid these two molecules, humic and fulvic. What humic and fulvic represent mother nature’s natural mineral replenishment technology for all cellular systems across the earth. Yeah. So that’s and that’s the beauty of it. This is nature’s solution for getting minerals into cells, which is where they need to get to do their most of them need to get to do their job. Yeah.

Dr. Mindy  

And I love, I love evolution. I’ve been really studying this from a I’m actually now studying it from a menopausal lens. Interesting at why we as women spend 42% of our life in post reproductive times, and what I have discovered in studying something called the grandmother hypothesis, which is really looking at what the reason for us to live so long post reproductive Lee is that there is this modern world that we are living in, and there is an ancient history that our human body was developed in, and we are now currently At an evolutionary mismatch, and the chronic diseases we are getting, the chAlanges mentally and physically that humans are coming up with, are coming into is really just a mismatch with the human body didn’t advance as the same way technology did. We’re literally living in the same body that our primal friends lived in. Yet you and I are now talking in different parts of the country via this little box of a computer like so, much has changed. So in the story you just told, what I find fascinating is that the soils have changed. The environment has changed. Everything has changed, except the human body. And so if we want to go back and learn how to take care of the human body, we need to go back and look at some of those resources that were available to us. And what I just heard was we had these minerals that our cells required, that we’re no longer getting, and that is exciting, and why I think your product is working so well. So just so that people can understand, we did multiple interviews, and we’ll put the links in there about what minerals do. Do inside the cell. But where I want to take this conversation is this modern world and how we are deple We’re not adding those minerals in, and certain activities we are doing are continuing to deplete the minerals. So can you talk we’re going to go into alcohol, but can you talk about what are some of the behaviors that this modern world is providing us that is adding to the depletion of minerals, you

Caroline Alan  

know? So I love talking with you Mindy, because you and I were both. We really love to delve into a subject and really go deeply into it, to understand it and and I just, I want to talk more about what you’re studying, but that’s very interesting to me. But what I’ve been studying is ecosystems, and what I recognize is that it’s as as modern beings living in a technological world, we tend to think about our body mechanic, mechanistically, yes, and we try to bio hack or think, and somebody says some, some scientist in a lab developed minimum RDA or, you know, daily allowances or requirements of different minerals and things like that, and vitamins, etc, and and we think, because a doctor or scientist told tells us that that we need to follow that the same way. You, you know, boot up your computer and you follow a user interface to do X, Y or Z. And the thing that we have to recognize is, as you’re saying, our bodies are natural beings. In fact, we’re actually not separate from the earth. We are actually part of the ecosystem of the earth. Now, certainly we’re messing up the ecosystem because we are out of balance, okay? And so if we start to think about the body as an ecosystem, then we begin to be able to this is the main thinking and paradigm shift that I’m talking about a lot now, and mineral because minerals work at an ecosystem level, they are the foundational minerals. And amino acids are the found fuel for your body. And you need to think about them in an ecosystem way. And the way I like to describe it is this, so if you have what, let’s use the gut microbiome. You know, we’ve we, we’ve looked at it, or let and let’s think about drinking alcohol. You know, every day I go home, I have a few beers, maybe have a few glasses of wine, maybe a cocktail. Now, what’s happening is, every day I’m putting a little poison into that ecosystem, into that gut ecosystem. Now, if my body has enough fuel, chances are it could actually move that stuff out. If it had enough, if it was like resonating at a high enough vibrational state, it actually might be able to clear that out on a regular basis, but without that, and most people are, are not, you know, on we aren’t operating at that level. And we don’t have enough of the amino acids and minerals in our body to fuel all those biosynthesis processes that would be required to clear that out. What happens is we end up with a build up of toxicity, you know. And then if we’re thinking about putting minerals in our body, because somebody said, maybe, from hearing this conversation, people like, oh, I need minerals. So they go to the health food store and they start buying pill bottles. And so if you think about your gut like a forest ecosystem, which it’s actually a lot like that, you know, it’s got all sorts of microorganisms and fungi and beneficial bacteria and non beneficial bacteria and all sorts of food, particle food, you know, nutritional elements that are coming through and being broken down. There’s all sorts of decomposition processes that are happening. And that’s just the beginning, you know. So there’s so many things that are happening in the gut. And now go in and imagine it like a forest. When it’s healthy, there’s all the nutrients and all of the pot, you know, positive elements, water and air, clean air and decomposing plants in the soil, etc. Now go take a wheelbarrow of magnesium and throw it on that floor of that of that forest. What’s going to happen to the plants in that area? They’re going to go this is too much. This is a concentration. What am I going to do? You know, and the plants aren’t going to thrive. And so that’s what happens when you don’t treat your gut and your body like an ecosystem. You do big, you know, big changes like this, which are really stressful and hard on the body. Now, you know we do fasting, but if when we learn to fast the way you teach, it really is treating the body with that cycle, particularly for women, exactly and and doing it in a way where you’re really in touch with the ecosystem and listening and you’re in relationship. With your body, you’re not trying to do something to it. Yes, did I answer your question? Yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

no, I but what I want to make sure people didn’t miss what you just said, because we do have a mechanistic approach to our bodies. Some part is hurting. Let’s fix that part. Oh, I heard I’m low in magnesium. Let me just make a mega dose magnesium. But what we have not brought to the surface is the fact that the bot in an ecosystem, there’s always a slant towards homeostasis. You have to constantly be coming back into balance in order for everything in the ecosystem to work properly. So let’s use alcohol as an example. You decide to pull alcohol out of your diet, you’re pulling the toxin out. But that doesn’t mean the ecosystem can self repair. There are things that were destroyed in the drinking of alcohol that need to be back in place so that the growth of and the balance of the ecosystem comes back into homeostasis

Caroline Alan  

exactly right and and the trick is, how do you do homies? How do you support your body that is enjoying what it naturally does, which is gain and maintain homeostasis. That’s what your body is doing every second of every single day, all the time, whether you’re awake or asleep, it’s trying to create balance in every little ecosystem and microbiome in your body. So

Dr. Mindy  

specifically, before we go into alcohol, one question that has come up, because we’re such supporters of your product, especially for fasters, is with fulvic and humic acids. That’s the way I’ve learned them to be. We can call them molecules. It’s a little confusing, because they’re really, you know, there’s a lot of depth there. Are we able to say that those acids are full of magnesium, potassium, zinc, or its nature has created the perfect balance of minerals. And so you don’t have to think about the amount nature already created it, and that’s what you’re bringing forth, exactly.

Caroline Alan  

So rather than saying, Okay, I need magnesium or I need potassium or zinc or whatever, fill in, you know, 17 to 22 minerals that you need imagine that, you know, billions of years ago, when single celled organisms were developing on the planet and there were mitochondria inside those cells, there had to be a way to get minerals into the cells. And so nature in its and not just one mineral, magnesium or potassium, but all of them. So nature in its infinite, you know, evolutionary wisdom developed these humic and fulvic molecules which actually have all of the perfect ratios of minerals that your body needs. I mean, of course it makes sense, because this is how nature works, right? The way nature works. It says, it says, Oh, we don’t want to put big concentrations, and we need all of these in these natural ratios. So there’s a lot of magnesium and calcium and potassium and sodium and boron and what we call the macro minerals, but there are also all of the micronutrients, the smaller things that you’ve probably never heard of, like molybdenum and vanadium. And you know, people write chromium, chromium and selenium, on and on, okay? And the beautiful thing is, these fulvic and humic molecules have those minerals in those specific ratios. And in fact, your gut even, do you know your gut is lined with these receptor sites? We can, you know, we could provide more detail, but that’s the simplest version. And do you know those receptor sites are also designed in those same ratios? So you have a lot of receptor sites for magnesium, potassium, calcium, etc, and you have smaller numbers of ratio ratios of all the receptor sites for the micronutrients. You see, wow, everything matches up. We say as above. So below, you see, it’s, you know, I’m sorry

Dr. Mindy  

now I’m really, I’m really excited, and I’m geeking out because what I’ve been really, I taught this in my clinic at the expense of my supplement sales. I just want to say that because what at the more I learned about the human body, the more I had respect for it, and that you can’t just put these outside supplements into your body and assume that you’re that ratio that some human decided was important is the right ratio for your body. So we need to go to things like food and look at and food. When it comes to that, my number one rule is, eat nature’s food, not human made food. So what I just learned and what you. Just said is that what you all have done with being minerals, is that exact thing, you’ve allowed nature to bring forth the perfect mineral balance that your cells will know what to do with. And I know you know this is your product, and you’re really excited about it, but I’m excited about the fact that we’re not trying to manipulate the ecosystem any more. We are, you know, with fasting and with food and with products like beam, we are coming back to those primal experiences that our body had, which put us in more a state of homeostasis. So I would categorize beam as a food, not a supplement,

Caroline Alan  

cell food, cell food. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. Now, you know. And the cool thing about human FOB, because they do, they provide all those minerals that your body needs in those natural ratios, but even more so, they represent a technology which is the delivery system for those minerals into your cells, as well as the detoxification tool for your cellular systems. And so imagine, you know, it’s not just like having somebody like bring you the plate of food. It’s like spoon feeding it. You know, it’s, it is the delivery system, and that’s what makes them so powerful, right?

Dr. Mindy  

Amazing. Okay, that was a whole nother level for me. So thank you for walking us through that. I hope, hopefully those listening are getting a deeper understanding, because we get asked a lot about minerals, and I think the way of looking at it as supporting the ecosystem, because it’s this cell food is is amazing. Now there, when I put eat like a girl together, I discovered a couple of things. First, I discovered that there are 24 key nutrients that every woman needs to be able to make a hormone. So here we are living in a time, especially with menopause, where we’re lathering ourselves with creams and patches and pellets without really discussing is our body able to make its own natural age appropriate hormone? Doesn’t matter if you’re at 60 or 45 there is a level of hormonal production that’s going to continually go on, and there are 24 nutrients that you need to make a hormone. Nine of those, by the way, are amino acids. And I don’t know the exact number, but I want to say that there was close to, like, another nine or 10 that were minerals, and then there’s one fatty acid and a handful of vitamins. So when I looked at that, I saw, well, what’s depleting a woman of her mineral these, these key minerals, one of them was birth control pills. Being on birth controls, I’m curious, and you and I can geek out on this, if another one of them is HRT, if HRT depletes the mineral system. But very interesting, yeah, I don’t have any I don’t have any evidence yet on that, but I suspect it’s an exogenous resource that depletes our own internal resources. Okay,

Caroline Alan  

you and I are gonna have to go down that rabbit hole. Maybe not here.

Dr. Mindy  

Yeah. That’s because I think it would be helpful, like my understanding with birth control pill. After looking at all of that was every woman that goes on a birth control pill should know of these nutrients, and she should back fill in with the nutrients. I think the same is with HRT, and you and I can let’s research it, and then we’ll bring it to the podcast and let everybody know what we discovered. But then we have things go ahead,

Caroline Alan  

just especially with all the fertility issues now as well, even prior to, you know, perimenopause, all that, yeah, yeah,

Dr. Mindy  

where do minerals? Yeah. So you now, hopefully you’re thinking through the birth control pill like somebody’s been on the birth control pill, exactly. They’ve depleted their body’s re internal resources of making hormones. They get off the pill, and now they can’t get pregnant because the resources have been depleted now in the menopausal woman, what’s interesting about alcohol is that as progesterone goes down, so does GABA, and our ability to calm ourselves becomes more difficult, so the glass of wine becomes really attractive, and so many women are trying to get off the glass of wine. And I’m curious if you’ve ever done any research on back filling in with fulvic and humic acids and getting those minerals back in, if that would actually change your craving for your glass of wine. Do you know? What do you have any thoughts on? Again?

Caroline Alan  

We have lots of anecdotal evidence from many, many, many women in perimenopause, menopause, post menopause, who have not been sleeping through the night, who’ve had anxiety, who’ve had that, what I call it’s like the nervous. System that’s amped up and it feels like it’s missing something. So it’s craving sweets, it’s craving that something that’s something that’s missing. And when I say, Yeah, you are missing something. And if you can actually learn to replenish this full spectrum of minerals that your body needs, literally, the nervous system can calm. So, you know, I can totally appreciate that need to medicate when the whole world is crazy and then inside our body is missing. So our not only are we reacting or responding to an outer craziness, but we also experience something missing inside, so the whole nervous system is amped up now, right? I’m telling you that has been my personal experience. In my story was waking up four or five times a night, and now being fully mineralized, I easily sleep through the night unless I’ve drank a lot of water,

Dr. Mindy  

right? Okay, wait so I have my beam minerals every morning when I wake up on an empty stomach, I never thought to have another dose at night before I go to bed. Is the timing of when you you do your minerals matter.

Caroline Alan  

Well, here’s an interesting thing that we often recommend to people, is have the electrolyze. Electrolyze is the fulvic supplement. And fulvic is the delivery system for minerals into your cells. So you want to have a lot of energy through the day. You want your cells to be producing lots of energy and have the fuel to do that, you use the fulvic. So you take your fulvic in the morning, in the evening, before you go to bed, you take the humic, which is that full spectrum mineral replenishment, plus that detoxification process that happens via your autonomic system when you’re asleep.

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, my God, I’m going to change that. That’s that’s phenomenal with alcohol. There’s a lot of discussion right now about alcohol being this poison and specifically on the brain and how damaging it is to the brain, I feel like there needs to be a deeper discussion of that. Because, you know, we if you just take a glass of wine and you put it in the environment of a social gathering where you’re at a table with a bunch of people you love, and you’re eating good food, and you’ve had a rough day, and you sit down and you have a glass of wine, and it relaxes you, and now you can be in better relationship with everybody. And there’s a in that there’s a bit of a health benefit. So I think when we just blankly say alcohol is a poison, we need to ask a bigger question, which is, what is it damaging, and is there a way to backfill it in? So do you know, like, what from a mineral level, what alcohol depletes us of or takes away from us?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, and the main thing that it depletes is magnesium, that it really when you use minerals on a regular basis, it depletes magnesium, but it also depletes phosphate, calcium and potassium. So you know, if you’re osteo if you have osteopenia, osteoporosis, it’s probably not best to be drinking alcohol. However, I want to tell a couple stories, because, you know, so I have a good friend who her husband is German. He loves to drink alcohol. He loves really, really good wine. And she when she drank with him, she couldn’t sleep. She would wake up. She just it did not work in her system. And I said, Hey, why don’t we? I went to her house. We I was visiting, and I said, Why don’t you use our micro boost product? We’ll have some wine tonight. She only drank wine at dinner. But you know, still she she was drinking nothing because she had such a discomfort when she did, she took a shot of her micro boost before she went to bed. She slept like a baby, and she woke up the next morning. She’s like, this is miraculous. Okay, wow. So the beautiful So, and if we think about the brain, one of the chAlanges with detox protocols in general is they often don’t work in the brain. But human goes across the blood brain barrier. It goes everywhere in the body. So you mean, it’s to the point where my kids, you know, you know my you know my son, who was 19, went to a big rave somewhere, you know, big three day thing event, and who knows what they imbibed, and I gave him a couple of bottles of micro boost to take with him, because I’m like, You guys are going to need this. And when they came back, all of his friends came in the house, which they never do, and they came in there hanging out. And I’m like, wow, this is interesting. And finally, one of them said, Hey, do you have one of those? Was bottles of stuff that worked so well. And I sent them home with with bottles of the micro boost. So the point being, there are two pieces to this. And I always suggest to them, if you’re going to go drinking, or you’re going to do imbibe even a big Thanksgiving dinner, you know, or go out to rest. And if you’re and you might get gluten, if you’re non, if you’re gluten intolerant, have some micro boost beforehand. So now your gut has this, has the fuel, the tools inside it to actually begin the detox process immediately.

Dr. Mindy  

I love, I love, that’s such a you know? And one of the things that I’ve recommended is that people do like before they go out on on a binder, or even they’re gonna go out and drink, is to support the liver. And so I have a supplement that I think is phenomenal, called todka, and it’s also something found in the Earth once again. And so you go into a meal protecting yourself by having the supplement. But I love what you’re saying is also have the it was the fulvic. Was it fulvic? It was the microbis, actually

Caroline Alan  

microbi. So imagine, imagine if that alcohol didn’t even have to hit your liver because it got cleared out right

Dr. Mindy  

beforehand. Oh, my God, that would be. See, this is where it gets really when you start to understand this stuff, it gets really simple. And I was just telling somebody the other day that my supplement list has gotten smaller and smaller and smaller once I understand deeper principles of the body like this. So, so if somebody is embarking dry January is a very common experience, and I applaud people for giving their bodies a break, but knowing people are going to go back to alcohol in February, and most people are going to go back to those old routines, could we? Could we think of like there is sort of an acute way, like an intensive care version of being minerals that you would use. And then when you, when you get done with your January, dry January, there would be more of a, you know, ongoing maintenance, like, I’m thinking to everybody who’s trying to do good for their body. Is there an amount they could go in with using these minerals to backfill in and support get their body back in balance? Yes,

Caroline Alan  

well and again, thinking it from an ecosystem perspective, yes, here we are about to go into the holidays and all that time when we eat lots of rich food and we potentially imbibe. And, you know, we party, we have great times with family members, etc, hopefully great times. So here we are, and it’s January, and we’re getting ready to we’re going to now go off alcohol. So what we want to do is, is, first of all, you don’t want to detoxify too fast. Okay, it’s gonna be hard on your body. You again, we’re thinking ecosystem. We’re thinking gentle, small, incremental changes. You by the end of January. January, you want your body to be really clean and clear, but don’t try and do it all today. Okay, especially if you’re starting to use humic and fulvic for the first time. So the fulvic, which is our electrolyzed product, you can start in immediately. It’s going to start the intercellular replenishment of minerals, as well as the intercellular detoxification so that alcohol, those toxins that have been stored in your liver or in other places in your body, they are now going to be able to come out of your tissues. Because, remember, your cells are your tissues. So you want to get those toxins out of the tissues and into your bloodstream where they can then be removed and eliminated. So, you know, start with the fulvic. And if I was going to do a, you know, beginning of this kind of detoxification process is going to take a month. I would start by taking a full ounce of electrolyze every day, right for maybe three or four days. And then I would start adding in some humic. Now, the for the listeners, if you’re a person who’s very sensitive. You have autoimmune you’ve had limes, you’ve had mold exposure, you’ve had long COVID, and your system is very sensitive. You’re going to start very small. You’re going to start with a quarter to a half teaspoon of micro boost in a glass of water, which you’re going to drink over 15 minutes. Again, we’re treating our body with such grace and love and gentleness that we’re giving it the tools, but we’re not trying to hit it with a hammer. We’re saying Here, try this, see if this works, and then the body. The beautiful thing about humic and phobic is because your body, your cells in your body, evolved next to this. Substance, your body knows exactly what to do with it, right? That will hang out in your bloodstream. It starts in your gut. Requires no digestion. Our micro boost. It will immediately easily absorb into your bloodstream through the lining of your gut. And then it’s going to just start grabbing toxins, bio waste, heavy metals, alcohol, you know, the tox is from the alcohol, etc. Things also, things like glyphosate and nano plastics and, Oh, wow. So it grabs all those things, and it’s going to carry those out of your body through all of the elimination channels. So let’s say you’ve, you know, you are fairly toxic, and your your tox, your liver is clogged or your kidneys are not working well for clearing stuff. But the beautiful thing about the humic is it use every elimination channel, your tears, your snot, your sweat, your saliva, your ear wax, rubbing your hands together. So don’t be surprised when you start using it if your eyes are itchy or,

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, because it’s detoxing, like Candida and things like that, exactly,

Caroline Alan  

exactly because it’s detoxing. Yeah. So it will use every elimination channel, which is really useful, especially when you’re starting to do detox and your some of the pathways are not open,

Dr. Mindy  

wow. Okay, so let me just rephrase that again. I find minerals. I find minerals as fascinating as you do, because it’s like an activator of an internal process that our body is already equipped to do, and that’s what I’m hearing here. So when, when I go dry January, I decide I’m gonna do the men. I’m gonna call it like a mineral detox. And I take the electrolyze. Is I start with an ounce, or if I’m really sensitive, I’ll do a couple of teaspoons for three days, and I just

Caroline Alan  

the fulvic you can take. No one’s ever sensitive to fulvic.

Dr. Mindy  

Oh, that’s the mic.

Caroline Alan  

Electrolyz is the clear. Close to clear is kind of a golden color. That one you can just take the full ounce. Don’t worry about it. You’ll be okay.

Dr. Mindy  

So, and I want to say for the people listening, we will have a protocol along with the recipes we’re about to give. So you can do the electrolyze. In the morning, when you wake up, you do an ounce. Everybody’s good there. But at night, you’re going to do the micro Boost, which is the humic. And you are going to do either an ounce, if you feel good, or you’re going to do a teaspoon, if you’re concerned about too strong of a detox.

Caroline Alan  

Well, what I’m going to say is everyone should titrate up at some level. So if you’re very sensitive, you’re going to start with a quarter or half a teaspoon in glass of water, if you’ve been using the minerals for a while, or you’ve used humic and she legit or something, and you know, you’re not, or you’re just not a sensitive person, you would start with a half an ounce, okay, okay. And then over, I would say, over a full 10 days, you’re going to titrate up to a full ounce in the night, before you go to bed, in a glass of water, in a, you know, like this, in a big, 16 ounce glass. Okay? Maybe, if it’s a night you don’t want to drink 16 ounces, you could put it in an eight ounce glass.

Dr. Mindy  

Does it need to be in water? Because I’ll tell you what I do. I put it in the cap and I just drink it straight from the cap

Caroline Alan  

and and because you’ve been using it for a long time, and you probably aren’t, you know, a sensitive sensitivo. If I do that, after three days, I’ll get pimples, and if I keep going, I’ll get hives behind my knees, so and I that’s only happened since I had COVID. Never happened before. Now it does, ah,

Dr. Mindy  

so it’s pushing out those that virus. Interesting, yeah, okay, then is there a point at which you don’t want to do too much? Because we’re not, we’re trying to create an ecosystem. We’re not like, it’s not a necessarily, more is better. Is there a point of that’s true?

Caroline Alan  

That’s true. I mean, an ounce of our micro boost is plenty per day. I mean, that is a lot, I would give that. So this is just the protocol we’re making for you know, to clear out your system in a month, right? For a regular, just standard amount, for a normal adult who’s not a performance athlete, half an ounce is plenty, okay, so, but we’re in, we’re talking about doing a clearing out of your system. So we’re going to give it more again, we’re going to titrate up to get to that full ounce, and at any point during that titrating, if you feel any of the symptoms of detox, which we can provide an article that really demystifies and helps people understand what to look for, we can provide a link to that because there’s a lot of symptoms. It could be achy joints, it could be aching kidneys. It could be a gut, you know. Just discomfort in your gut. It could be headaches, it could be it could be a whole raft of different things, like, I get pimples or or hives, okay, yeah, so a lot of different things, depending on who you are, yeah.

Dr. Mindy  

And then I just want to go back in a mechanistic model, pimples or hives would be something to go after. But in an ecosystem model, pimples and hives are a shedding of the old as the new is rebuilding. I just want to point that out, because so many times I watched people move away from fasting because of the bad symptoms, and largely This is why I love one of the reasons I love beam is because it has helped mitigate that. But let’s not I would take, I would, I would love that article. We’ll leave a link so that people don’t feel like it’s the minerals that did that. It’s the minerals pushing out the bad in your body.

Caroline Alan  

Yes. And you know what I always say is this, when you put this humic in your body and you have a response, it’s your body, like, going, yay, fantastic. I can finally get rid of all this crap. Pardon my language, you know, I can fart finally get rid of this stuff. And all you want to do is slow it down, because you don’t want to have a headache, you don’t have hive, you don’t have pimples, you know, I don’t want those things. So you just slow it down and but what will happen over time is, if you’re very gentle and you slowly teach your body, oh, you can use more. You can use more. And, you know, you can end up taking quite a bit if you’re, I mean, I know I have some performance athletes who take two full ounces of micro boost every day, you know, wow,

Dr. Mindy  

wow. Yeah, well, that would also makes sense, because they’re they’re sweating a lot and like, yeah, that would make sense. So I do want to go into because we’re going to have over 100,000 people in January doing a three day water fast. So I want to talk about a protocol for that. Before we do that, talk to me a little bit about the mocktails. I can say that when I’ve done a dry January, that I miss the that nighttime drink. Is there some way we can create something beautiful that would would feel like a glass of wine, but not be the alcohol.

Caroline Alan  

You know, it’s it’s interesting because in the last year, I’ve completely stopped having any alcohol. I just realized my body didn’t want it, but the ritual, you know, and the thing of, you know, being with people, and there’s something also special when you have some, you know, a glass of wine is beautiful, you know, and having a drink that’s beautiful that you can share with people. You know, we had it. We had actually a big beam minerals gathering last summer in Austin, and we had gotten a whole bunch of wine for that event, and we also had these beautiful mocktails. And, you know, we had 90 people, and only three bottles of wine were opened. Because, wow, because people love the mocktails so much so tell us, yeah, it’s really true that you can, you can create something beautiful and really pleasing and and fulfilling. I have a couple of mocktails. I We really love one, and I’m a huge fan of cucumbers. So both of them have

Dr. Mindy  

me too. Oh me too. Yeah,

Caroline Alan  

so one is a cucumber watermelon mocktail. And I also like a fizzy mocktail. So you could also use plain water. I use tapa Chico sparkling water, mainly because it’s very fizzy, which you know, if you like, if you like less Fizz, you could use a different water. I recommend the tapa Chico because it mixes well with the other ingredients. So and So, I take a half an ounce of fresh watermelon juice, and you can, you can take some watermelon, just put it in like a a sieve, and just grind it kind of with a spoon, and you’ll get juice out of the bottom. And it’s okay if it has some of the, you know, the the fiber in there, it actually will add to the drink. Then you take a half an ounce of lime juice. Now you can use any sweetener. I recommend, honey, and in fact, I make kind of a simple syrup out of honey. So I take honey and I add water to it, so that it’s it’s actually it will dissolve easily into a cold drink because it’s already mixed with water and it’s not as sweet. So you use, but I use about three quarters an amount of an ounce of the honey water. Then I use something. This thing will put a link in the in the recipe, these amazing non alcoholic spirits. They’re called, see, the company is called Seed lip. Have you ever heard of seed lip? Yeah, I have, yeah. They’re amazing. So in this one, we use this one called Garden 108, and it’s, it’s kind of a it’s got a mix of different flavors. It’s not citrusy and and then we put a half an ounce of the electrolyze in there, and then you just. Fill up the glass with the tapa Chico. So you put all those ingredients, and then you put the it’s so good, and then you can use, you know, garnish it with some cucumber or lime or whatever, whatever is pretty flower, a flower in the top. So that’s one of them. The other one that I love is a cucumber, lemon, mint. So it’s kind of like a what do they call that from the south? I can’t think of the name, but right now, but what you do there is you take half an ounce of cucumber juice. So the same thing, you’re going to take a cucumber and you’re going to mash it into a sieve, and there’s going to be juice that’s going to come out. You only need half an ounce, so it’s not a lot of liquid, and then a half an ounce of lemon juice, and then you’re going to take two sprigs of mint and you’re going to muddle them. So what you’re going to do is put them you need to, like, break up the mint so that the mint flavor gets into your drink. You can just do it with your hand by, you know, crushing it a little bit. Or you can put it in with some of the juice and kind of hit it with the end of a spoon, just so it starts to get mixed into the liquid. And then you’re going to take, again, the three quarter ounce of the honey water. And then you’re going to use one and a half ounce of a different seed lip spirit called Grove, and it’s more of their citrus blend. It’s, it’s just lovely. And then again, a half an ounce of the of the electrolyzed, so you’re also doing some mineralization, and then fill the glass with the tapa Chico. So, oh my god, it sounds so good. We’re gonna have to have one together sometimes, I know. So,

Dr. Mindy  

okay, so the C lip, can you get that at I think I can get that at my natural grocery store, or is that, you

Caroline Alan  

know, probably not you, you know, I have links in here to just, you get it on Amazon. There are you, can you actually, you know, some like liquor stores now carry seed lips. So if you have a more fancier liquor store, because they use it a lot for mixing cocktails nowadays, it’s, it’s a well known thing. So, yeah, seed lip, really amazing, amazing products, and cool company too. Now

Dr. Mindy  

I noticed, you, I know she didn’t use the micro boost in those. You’ve used the electrolytes.

Caroline Alan  

Yeah. Well, again, they’re, since they’re mocktails, you don’t really need that detoxification. And I think about getting the getting the nutrients from the drink, the all the good stuff that’s in the drink into your body. So you could use micro boost, and it tastes like water, you could. I just think of these drinks as being a lighter color. And so, yeah, I was gonna say the color, you know, part of it, part of the drink, is how beautiful it is, you know, and that’s why it’s nice to use the fulvic, because it’s a light color and it just makes it doesn’t turn the drink into something Brown. I mean, I suppose if you’re making a drink that’s, you know, with, you know, a different kind of flavor, a spicy drink with maybe some cream in it, you know, a mocktail. I’ve never heard of a creamy mocktail. That could be an idea. I

Dr. Mindy  

feel like you need to use the the micro boost with, like a Halloween drink, where it would be a dark black so I’ll bring it back, and we’ll, we’ll come up with with that next Halloween.

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, I love that spooky drink.

Dr. Mindy  

But what I so this is what I’m hoping people who are listening will do, is we’re now putting ourselves in this state where we’re not bringing the alcohol poison in, and we’re back filling in with nutrients that are going to bring our ecosystem back into homeostasis. But one of the things that I have been really trying to talk to people about recently is like the environment in which you eat, the environment you put yourself in, the people you hang around. All of that actually matters for the ecosystem that we’re talking about, that we call our bodies. And when you go into these dry January’s, you see a lot of people like grit it, or they are feel like they have to remove themselves from social events, although January, everybody pretty much removes themselves. But you just created oxytocin in those recipes, and oxytocin balances all the other hormones out. And you created dopamine because it’s new and it’s novel, and all of a sudden you’re excited about your your dry January. So I’m gonna, I’m gonna encourage people to make the drink, take a picture of it, and then put it on socials and tag both beam and me, because I think there’s more than just, oh, that was a good replacement. I want people to see that it actually is fulfilling the ecosystem in a way that just going dry can’t do.

Caroline Alan  

And this is the great thing is, you know, I always say, or I say, you know, the age of suffering is over. Yes, suffer anymore. Yeah, we we just need to learn to love our bodies and ourselves and treat ourselves the way we would like to be treated. So true.

Dr. Mindy  

It’s so true. So, okay, so let’s talk about a three day water fast, because we’re going to have a lot of fasters and I and actually we do in our in our reset Academy, and just our world in general, in January, we do a lot of fasting. So I’m wondering it, could we come up with a three day water fast pro protocol with your with your minerals, right here and right now and then? I’m wondering if we can even come up with a fasting drink, like maybe muddling, yeah, I mean, we’re literally, I’m putting you on the spot here, but I’m thinking we would muddle some ginger and maybe squeeze some lemon, and then maybe some sprigs of mint and some slices of cucumber, and you’re using the electrolyze during in your fasted state, that wouldn’t pull you out of a fast, no.

Caroline Alan  

And that’s the beautiful thing about both micro boost and and electrolyze, is that they don’t pull you out of your fast. So I’ve had many people who regularly do water fasts, like every four months or three months or something. They do a three and sometimes a five day water fast, which you know, and you know, and I’m sure you, you know, you work with people around water fasts, and it’s, it’s a serious business. It’s not just something you do, you know. So it’s important. And the absolute, I cannot think of any better support for a system that is doing a water fast than fulvic and humic minerals. Absolutely nothing better because and particularly the liquids. The beautiful thing about these liquids, again, being that they require no digestion. They will not break a fast, and they’re just supporting all that autophagy process that’s happening in your body, all of that detoxification, all of that, you know, all of those repairing processes are supported both in your brain and in your liver and your kidneys and and all your other organs. So you know, when you go into, you know, and you can, of course, speak into the science behind the fast, the water fast and what happens in the body. But all of those biosynthesis processes require energy, and if you’re drinking water and you’re drinking filtered water that has no minerals, you’re not giving your body that fundamental cellular fuel that is necessary. So Wow.

Dr. Mindy  

Okay, so is there like, my sense, we used to do this in my clinic all the time because it made a three day water fast more fun is I and two patients of mine actually came up with this, so I have to give them credit for it, but they were in the middle of a three day water fast, and they would text each other at certain times during the day, and they would say, I’m having my snack right now. And I put snack in air quotes, and they had had different drinks, like mineral water drinks and things like that. I’m wondering if going into a three day water fast, if you could do the electrolyze, like, maybe a couple of ounces a day, and, like, maybe there’s an increase in it, and we put it in a drink, in this drink we’re talking about.

Caroline Alan  

So I’m going to tell you when you’re if you’re doing a three day water fast, there is no reason that you couldn’t have three ounces, right? Electrolyze every day. Yes. Okay, so the beautiful thing about the fulvic, so remember that it has the natural ratios of minerals in your body, so it’s providing all of the minerals more in the proper ratios, so you’re not creating imbalance by taking more if you just took more pills of, you know, potassium or magnesium or something that would be exacerbating the imbalance in this right actually supporting the balance, the overall balance and the body easily eliminates what it doesn’t need. It doesn’t create that, that kind of concentration, I would say, toxic, but that’s a strong word. It doesn’t create that concentration load that a single mineral or electrolyte would cause. Okay?

Dr. Mindy  

And then so, so I’m again, we’re creating the protocol right here and now. So I’m gonna say three different times. Like you would maybe do it first thing in the morning, you would do it at noon, is your lunch, and then three o’clock in the afternoon, and then at night, before you go to bed, would you do the micro boost? Yes,

Caroline Alan  

exactly what I was going to say, Yes, before you go to bed, do the micro boost. Because now you’re during when you’re sleeping, your autonomic system is just going to be doing all of that detoxification work and again. So during the day, because the fulvic has this ability to cross the cell barriers. So it’s carrying nutrients in and bio waste and toxins out, dumping those in the bloodstream. Now you’re going to give it that humic, which is then going to continue that remove it totally from your body.

Dr. Mindy  

Do what. I know this is a larger discussion, and again, we’ll bring you back on to talk about it. But one of the things that we have seen with fasting is that when you become hungry, it’s not actually your human cells that are hungry, it’s your microbes that are hungry, and the microbes have such a way about controlling our cravings and our hunger. If we follow this protocol of three times a day of electrolyze during a water fast, I’m wondering if it will pacify the microbes and feed the microbes so they stop sending hunger signals. What’s your sense on that?

Caroline Alan  

Well, again, from the people that I’ve known who’ve done the water fast, it’s absolutely been the effect. So that sense of the crampy hunger feel has has been totally, almost totally eradicated with the use of the minerals during the fasting. Are

Dr. Mindy  

do minerals act like a prebiotic for

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, exactly so. And the thing we have to realize is, first of all, they do a couple different things. They create a beneficial environment for the the the micro bite, the positive microbiome elements, okay, all right, because there’s so many, yeah. And so first of all, they create that beneficial environment, but they’re also create a non beneficial environment for bacteria, for virus, viruses and and then the humic is going to be constantly cleaning up and chemically bonding with those, those both toxic substances, whether it’s the heavy metals or the, you know, bio waste, or the glyphosate or the Nano plastics or those, those kind of, those things that create the oxidative stress in your body. So, right? So it’s so important, but they’re, they’re just think about it’s like giving your body a leg up, because you’re asking a lot of it when you’re going from, you know, eating into a three day water fast, you really want to give it all of the tools, the kind of, the extra tools that it needs to support all those beneficial processes.

Dr. Mindy  

Yeah, I always feel like when you go into a longer fast, and to me, a longer fast is anything over 24 hours, the message you’re giving your body is a message of, I trust you. I honor the wisdom in you. I know that you know how to repair better than I know better than any doctor I’ve ever gone, you know, any doctor’s office I’ve stepped into. So it’s really this beautiful honoring of the of our ecosystem, and in that, what I think you’re doing by adding these minerals in is you’re saying, and I know you’re going to be doing all this healing for the next three days. So I’m going to give you the nutrients that you need to do the job that you do. So well, I am going to give you the tools so that you can do your job at its best. That’s how I would see what you just said.

Caroline Alan  

I love that. That’s It’s so beautiful. I want to do. I’m going to join the water fast.

Dr. Mindy  

Yeah, right, you should. You should. And I’m going to, it’s really fun to do in community, because you are energetically leaning into people around the world. We literally had 100,000 people last January, and I led a call every night. It was beautiful. It was really a way to see how small the world can be and how we don’t need to constantly rely on outside sources to heal us. We have the power to heal ourselves, which is amazing. We

Caroline Alan  

can’t wait to do that. Mindy, that’s amazing. I’m definitely gonna join

Dr. Mindy  

beautiful and what we’re gonna do is, let’s, let’s, let’s write up this recipe for a fasted drink with, you know, ginger and lemon and mint and anything else you would think that would go in there, so that people will have that for the fast as well. You

Caroline Alan  

know, one of the things that you can use in those fasted drinks is essential oils. That’s a great way to get a little bit of flavor without any caloric input, and it just creates, like this feeling of food, even though so we all throw in some ideas that use essential oils as well. Great.

Dr. Mindy  

And then I always tell perfect. Then I always tell people, put it in a wine glass, put it in a cocktail drink, like, make it a because now your brain is like, oh my god, it’s noon and I get that really cool drink. As opposed to when you don’t do that, your brain is like, Oh God, I got three more days of this. Like, it’s just so hard to, like, wrap itself around. So this, this is amazing. I. I, you know, I all, every time I talk to you, I feel like I just want more. And I really, thank you, I agree. And I really, I’m, I’m such a fan of beam, and I proselytize it everywhere I go, because it is so in alignment with the way I look at the body. And so just thank you for for I don’t know how you discovered that product. I don’t know if you were digging a hole in the ground and you found that there were some minerals down there, but Hallelujah. Hallelujah, for you all and what you’re doing. So thank you for all that. How do people find you? I assume we’re gonna probably have some discount codes like, how do we, how do people dip into this?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, you can just go to beam minerals.com We’ll put a link in there with your because we have a discount code that people can use, which, you know, is, is just a beautiful thing, because everybody wants to try something. It’s a great opportunity just beam minerals.com but again, we’ll, we’ll put the discount code link in the so it’ll just automatically add a 20% so that’ll be good, amazing. Thank you. We also have a great if people want to just learn more about minerals, they can go to our YouTube channel again, be minerals. And we have a lot of good educational content about different things for different people, if you’re you know, for hormonal things, or for adrenal things, or for thyroid things, so amazing,

Dr. Mindy  

amazing. Well, Caroline, I can’t wait to see you someday soon when we both I’m personally not hopping on planes very much these days. I’m taking a little bit of a break, but hopefully we will connect soon. And great work.

Caroline Alan  

Thank you. That would be lovely to see you. All right. Take care. Thank you.

Dr. Mindy  

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