Are Minerals the Building Blocks of Our Cells? – with Caroline Alan the Mineral Geek

Mindy Pelz  

On this episode of The recenter podcast, I am bringing you Caroline Alan. Now, let me tell you a little bit about her, and about the concept we are about to unpack for you. So Caroline is a health survivor and a mineral enthusiast, she actually calls herself a mineral geek. And she comes from a career in the corporate world. And like many of us found herself struggling physically, mentally, energetically, in that environment. And a part of her road to health was this understanding and research of how depleted our bodies are of minerals? And what’s interesting is, you might hear something like that and just say, Well, I guess Yeah, I don’t know much about minerals. Maybe I’m depleted in it, maybe I need to take a mineral supplement. But what you’re about to hear in this conversation, is you’re about to hear why minerals may be one of the most core nutrients that your body needs for brain health, heart health, Hormonal Health, for gut health, I hope you get to the end of this conversation and you understand why we need to bring minerals back into the conversation, that many of the chronic diseases that are happening, many of the challenges with menopause that are going on many of our sleep issues, all these things we’re trying to throw 1000 Different bio hacks at or medications or even supplements, many of them could be resolved by just getting the right mineral combination in. Now, if you’re like me, and you hear a statement like that, and you’re like, This sounds like too good to be true. I think what you’re going to find out in this conversation is how taking a quality mineral supplement could be the answer to many of your problems. So listen for yourself. Caroline does an amazing job with explaining what minerals do at the cellular level, the organ level, the hormonal level, we both go into what the mineral content of food is, in this current state that we’re living in. We talk about minerals in conjunction to toxins and can minerals help us detox the daily toxins were exposed to we go deep, and I have never brought you such a thorough conversation on minerals before despite the fact that I’ve actually brought Caroline on before to talk about how we use minerals. In our fasting window. What I think you will hear in this conversation is why minerals are even important in our eating window. So Caroline Allen, this is a deep one. And as always, I hope this moves your your life forward your health forward, I know many of you this is going to be the discussion that you have an aha, and you realize I need to add minerals back in and that will be the game changer for your health. So we will leave links, we will leave she has some great resources. All of that will be in the show notes. But most importantly, I want you to listen with an open heart and open mind. And really tap into your own intuition and see if perhaps, this mineral concept, the mineral idea might be the thing that you’re looking for with your health. Welcome to the resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself. Again, if you have a passion for learning, if you’re looking to be in control of your health and take your power back. This is the podcast for you.

Let me just start off by saying welcome. I’m so happy to be geeking out on minerals with you today. Thank

Caroline Alan  

you so much for having me, Mindy, I always love to talk to you.

Mindy Pelz  

So here’s where I want to start this conversation. I kind of want to paint a picture of what I’ve seen in my community. And last time when I brought you on, I talked about how I was watching that when people metabolically switched into the fat burning fasted state. A lot of symptoms showed up. And some of those symptoms were like hair loss, rashes, fatigue, brain fog. And what I noticed is if I added minerals into their fasting window, those symptoms went away and we already unpacked all of that. So again, that’s a conversation that I’m going to encourage everybody to go back and listen to. But the new part of this that has really intrigued me Is that what I’m finding is that when people specifically women are switching back into what I call the sugar burner system, that there’s a lot of dysfunction when it comes to our relationship with food, we don’t really have a sense if food is actually providing nutrients to us, we have these really strange hunger signals that seem to be out of our control, we have sugar cravings. And so I’ve spent a lot of time dialing into why do women have this real dysfunctional relationship with food? And how do we make food simple? And how do we make food medicine? And one of the things I’ve landed on is this idea of obesogens, that we have so many chemicals that have poured into our food system, we have so many so many depleted minerals in our soil system, that not food isn’t even giving us the nutrients we need anymore. So where I’d like to pull this out of your brain, is to start with this idea of why are minerals important? And is it true that food isn’t giving us the mineral punch it used to give years ago? And why would that be? Yes?

Caroline Alan  

Well, let’s start with the last question first, which is why isn’t food providing what we need anymore. And it’s really interesting, we may have said this before, but it’s always good to hear it again. When a plant grows in the soil, and even if you’re eating meat, those those animals ate plants, okay, so this is part of the same chain. When a plant grows in the soil, the way that it creates all of its structure. In fact, all of the structure in your body is made of minerals. Now, in nature, when a plant grows in the soil, it grows. And then at some point, it dies, and it decomposes, and all of its mineral content goes back into the soil. But we in our infinite wisdom, we cultivate, we grow plants in soil, and we take it away from where it grew, and we eat it over there, we feed it to an animal. And that soil, when it’s been cultivated like that for hundreds, and in some cases, 1000s of years, that soil becomes extremely depleted of minerals. Now, you could say, Well, wait, why don’t we just throw some minerals back in that soil. But like your body, the replenishment system for minerals into plants is very complex. And you can’t just put rocks and shells and bones into the soil and expect the plant to be able to utilize it the same way. You can’t put rocks and shells and bones into your body and expect your body to know what to do with most of it. You see. Yeah, that makes so they say that to get the same nutrition from an apple. And we have we have studies that show this if we could put that in the show notes the link to it. So as people often ask me, Is that really true? And just so you know, I mean, I totally support people who want to do food as medicine. I agree. Food is medicine. And that’s why I say plant based minerals are food. They are food as medicine, okay? They’re not labs, formulated supplements, okay, so. So when you eat an apple today, or excuse me, if your grandfather ate an apple, today, you’d have to eat like six apples to get the same amount of nutrition. It’s that big of a problem. I’m telling you in the 1930s, they had a whole session of conduct of Congress about the problem of mineral depletion in the soils. And what have we done since then? Nothing. Because they cannot figure out how to they can get nitrates they can get, you know, all sorts of other things back in the soil. But bioavailable nutrition is hard, even in

Mindy Pelz  

regenerative farms. I mean, and I want to go back to this concept, because I think this is I don’t want people to miss the importance of what you just said. So I can tell you from our own gardening, I live in California, we’ve gone through a lot of droughts. And so over the last couple of years, my husband and I decided to pull out all the grass and to do vegetable bin gardens and one of the vegetable gardens has a artichoke plant. And my husband is a protector of the environment. He knows a ton about regenerative soil. And so when this artichoke plant would die, he would say to me, just leave it and I was saying, you know it’s looks so ugly, it’s in our front yard and he’s like, just leave it. And so we have continued to let this plant die and go into the soil. And then we don’t do anything other than deal with how ugly it looks in front of our house. And then each year it grows back stronger and stronger and bigger and it tastes better. So there’s a classic example to me of a little microcosm of regenerative care for your garden. What I hear you saying is that conventional garden farming, you grow a crop, and then you get rid of the crop you till the crop. And now after you’ve tilled the crop, you have dead soil, nothing was allowed to go back in, and then you grow the next broccoli, or you grow the next. So so we from the model that you just said, We’re, it’s pretty clear if you’re eating food from a conventional farm, it is nutrient absent, there’s it’s just it’s it’s not giving you what you need. But what about if I go to a regenerative farm? Do we have any signs that that type of farming is giving us the mineral punch that we need?

Caroline Alan  

Well, it’s definitely better. But it’s still not enough. And again, this is just the simple reality of when you grow in that soil and you take most of that plant away, and you eat it somewhere else. Yes, some of the plant material ends up going back in, but it’s not the whole thing. The other thing is that to create, like humic and fulvic. So what we’ve, we know about mycelium, so mycelium are these organisms, or fungi that live underneath the soil, and they deliver nutrients to the roots of plants. And do you know what they deliver, they deliver fulvic and humic packets of fulvic and humic. So there’s this process of decomposition of freshwater plants. And in that decomposition process, there’s some specific microbes in a particular sequence of events that happen that turn into humic and fulvic. If you see a pond, and it’s a brown, that’s actually freshwater plants decomposing and becoming humic. Okay, okay. And this is what happens in a compost pile. Now, the problem is most compost people leave doesn’t get broken down enough. So it has to get broken is actually takes, like, I don’t know what the actual length of time is. I should know that but I don’t, but much longer than you’d expect, okay. But what are the regenerative farmers using they’re using humic and fulvic on their garden. So you what you guys should do Mehndi is take some of our minerals, our humic, the microbe boost and in the follow season, I want you to put it on to the soil, just spray it on or, you know, water your whole garden with it. And then watch what happens with your plants.

Mindy Pelz 

Oh, you know, it’s funny, Zack Bush told me years ago to do that with ion biome. And it really because he’s like, it’ll put the good bacteria in. i That’s a brilliant idea. And I’m I definitely will do that. I love that idea. So with that in mind knowing and the word I also have to say where I know my brain goes to in this conversation is holy shit or more our soils are in such bad shape. And food as medicine is becoming more and more difficult to say. And we also have these toxic this toxic environment we’re living in. And women on top of that have birth control they’ve been on for years and antibiotics and antidepressants and and now we’ve got a huge influx of HRT and bioidenticals. And then you throw ozempic in there and like all these medications. And from what I know about many of these is they’re destroying the microbiome. So even if I choose to eat food that comes from a regenerative farm that is well has a lot of nutrients in it, I also have to make sure that that food hits a gut that has plenty of microbes that can pull the nutrients out of that food and put it into our system. That seems like a very complex, complex problem that I’m not sure even the healthiest of us are able to overcome. So my next question to you is twofold. One is Do you agree with that statement? You have thoughts on that statement? And what are some real telltale signs for our listeners, that you may not be getting enough minerals?

Caroline Alan  

One thing I want to say is that because our food supply is lacking in minerals, there’s actually a term for micronutrient deficiency, and it’s called the hidden hunger. You and I talked about those? Yes. And isn’t that what so many people are feeling so, you know, particularly when we’re trying to affect our health Wilson we’re trying new diet. So we’re trying our ways of eating and things and, and, you know, you go to the fridge you eaten dinner an hour later or half an hour later, you’re like opening the fridge looking for that thing. That’s to fill that void. And what I say to people is, what if that feeling is just your cells saying, I need minerals? Yep. So if you are constantly feeling cravings for sugar and salt, you know, these, this absolutely can be mineral deficiency. I’ll tell you an example. I just went away. I was traveling for two weeks. And when she you know, the mineral geek doesn’t bring minerals on her trip like Hello,

Mindy Pelz  

happens to the best of us what happens to the bag.

Caroline Alan  

By the end of that two weeks, I was actually with my family and I found myself craving sugar, like carbs and sugar. And I’m not a carbon sugar Craver so that it was like, I was like, wow, this is the minerals. This is absolutely the mineral so. So that’s the first piece. So things that people don’t think of as mineral deficiency like anxiety, constant, low level anxiety, panic, depression, blood sugar, your regulation, not being able to sleep through the night. I mean, sleep and minerals is absolute. I mean, we know magnesium will help people sleep, I don’t recommend using magnesium for sleep that way. But that’s another conversation. But hair loss, of course, and you know, the obvious things, but these those in the brain fog, absolutely. So we have an and also having a struggle managing your anger, like if that mood disrupt dysregulation. And that’s really big with kids, kids who have lots of outbursts, you can give them minerals, full spectrum minerals, and it can literally change them dramatically. We have a great story on our website about that.

Mindy Pelz  

Yeah, and I love that you brought up some of those pieces that we wouldn’t tend to think because my my brain goes to hair and nails. And I said this on the last time I brought I brought you on my podcast, the one thing that blows me away, when I take your minerals is that my nails grow so fast, so much so that if I don’t take a nail clipper with me, when I go on a trip, I’m like struggling to find find, you know, I got to go buy one. And that never happened before. Never, I would like cut my nails, it got to a point of like maybe once a month, and now it’s like once a week, same thing with my hair, my hair is growing so fast, that I’m having to get it cut a lot more. So when that those kinds of things happen to me, I think, okay, if this is happening to my hair, and nails, what other parts of my body are starting to come back online taking these minerals? So one of my questions to you is like, do we know which body parts require more mineral help than others? Or do we know what type part of the cell that minerals affect? Like, let’s take it down to like an Oregon cellular system conversation?

Caroline Alan  

Well, you know, we’re used to, we’re used to thinking about our body like parts, you know, we have a heart, we have lungs, we have nails, we have hair, we have tissues, we have biosynthesis processes, like hormone production, and thyroid production and cortisol. And we have, you know, our cardiovascular system and we have lymph. And all of these, it’s we’ve we’re used to thinking about it like parts. But when we think about minerals, what you have to do is think about your entire body is made of cells. Every single part of your body is made of cells and minerals work at a cellular level. So you have maybe 37 to 150 trillion cells in your body as an adult human. And inside each cell, there are mitochondria. And just to give you a sense of scale, like on the back of your hand, you might have on in a single cell like one to 200 mitochondria, in your heart in a single cell like five to 8000 mitochondria. And in your brain. Like you could have up to 2 million mitochondria in a single cell. Okay? What these mitochondria do is they generate almost all of the energy in your body, almost all of it. So if you don’t have enough if that those mitochondria which are fueled by minerals and amino acids do not have enough fuel available. Your body will have to pick and choose what it does and what it does not Don’t do, and it doesn’t really need your hair and it doesn’t really need your nails and your skin, you know, we can let it go a little bit and you know, well, that gut, we’re just going to limp along and not get rid of that inflammation. And if you have a cut, it’s going to heal much slower, slowly, slowly and on. And well, this anxiety is literally can be fueled by yourself, literally. I mean, how do you feel when you’re hangry? You’re hangry? Like, on edge? So imagine every cell is like, okay, am I gonna get what I need now? Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

that’s really well said, I think that’s really well said, because the body will always like, let’s say you have a for the, for the lack of clear information, let’s say you, you have a small dosage of minerals in your body. And so your body’s going to have to prioritize where those minerals go. So I would think the brain would probably be its top priority. Make in the heart, and it makes sense that the hair would fall out and your nails would, you know, I one of the things I’ve noticed is if I don’t take it, I get the ridges on my nails. So I can I use my hair and nails to sort of tell me where my minerals are at. But what you just said is really interesting, which is, if your nails aren’t growing, or your hair is falling out, you’re at a mineral deficit. But that might be because the body has taken your mineral load, and has put it in to other organs in order to keep you alive. So what I just learned in your comment is one of the things I’m trying to bring back into the conversation is how our, our periods, our menstrual blood, actually can tell us a lot about our health. But what I just heard from you is that our hair and nails can also tell us a lot about where our mineral levels are at. Now, you could go to anxiety and depression. There’s a lot of reasons for that. But in my book, hair and nails is very clear. It’s a mineral issue.

Caroline Alan  

Well, we have so many just on the on the menstruation thing, you know, we have so many women who start taking our minerals. And after two to four months, if they’ve had painful periods, they go away. Okay. So and why is that? Well, partly it’s because of the the detoxification capacity of the plant based humic substances because menstruation is a detox event as well. And but it’s also because of the cramping. I mean, the cramping is a mineral deficiency. So when you’re fully mineralized, your body doesn’t have to do so much cramping. So it stays Yeah, or it doesn’t end up. And that’s not well said. But it ended up in such cramping. This one of the things that I really been thinking about recently, as I’ve continued to delve down and get smaller and smaller, and look at the body. I mean, recently I was learning that I think that there that bacteria and microorganisms in your body outnumber cells 10 to one.

Mindy Pelz  

Yes, yes. So nobody talks about it.

Caroline Alan  

So I’ve been thinking more and more I’ve been thinking about how you know, this relationship. And it really speaks to you know, just actually letting the your plant die and just go back to the earth naturally in your garden, it so is that this body that we have is an ecosystem. And in fact, we’re not separate from the earth, the earth is an ecosystem. And humans actually are part of that ecosystem. And the way that these bacteria and microorganisms are part of our ecosystem. It’s all a whole. And if we begin to start thinking about our body as an ecosystem, when something’s out of balance, that’s when our we lose our hair. That’s when our nails aren’t working. And that’s when we have brain fog when this micro organism, I mean, relative to the size of the Earth, right? Or this ecosystem is is not imbalanced. So what we what I’ve been really starting to want people to begin to think about is how can you start to think about your body that way? And it relates certainly to food. What we really want to talk about is and and how do you get food into you? Or how do you and one of in the same way that we’ve thought about our we’ve been taught to think about our body as parts. We’ve also been taught to think about having a huge effect on the body, like I’m going to take Advil, I’m going to take a drug, I’m going to take caffeine, I’m gonna take something that’s going to give me an impact right now and people call me two days after taking the minerals. They’re like, I don’t feel anything. I’m like, Okay, give it some time. Your body is an ecosystem you’re using ecosystem tools that work with the natural replenishment systems in the body. These are slow acting, balancing processes. Not you know, in nature, if we have something like that it’s a volcano. It’s a tidal wave, it’s a earthquake. These are not good things. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

yeah. Systems, right? Well, you know what, I go back to the garden, I love this ecosystem. By the way, I go back to the garden analogy. And I think, okay, let’s, let’s talk about my garden. It’s, it’s an ecosystem. So now, if I came out, and I poured chemicals into it, if I covered it, so it didn’t get any light, if I decided to talk horribly to it, and we have some studies talking is showing what happens when you talk poorly to plants. I could not expect that garden to flourish. But yeah, if we don’t think of the human body as an ecosystem, that’s exactly what we’re doing. It’s like we’re putting toxins in, we’re not getting enough light, we’re talking poorly to ourselves, we’re let allowing our brains to hook on to negative thought patterns that are out in the cultural zeitgeist, we are literally trashing our body in this modern day world. And then when symptoms show up, we go looking for the one thing that’s going to cure us like the person you talked about, where they take minerals for two days, and then they’re like, wait a second, this doesn’t, this isn’t helping. But really what the name of the game of health is, is bringing harmony back to that ecosystem. And what I’m just learning from you right now, and I just want to emphasize this for my listeners, is minerals are a key piece of this, because of the effect and the crucial part of them for cellular health. Before we got on this, you talked a little bit about the cell membrane, and the cell membrane is a really interesting one to me, because that is how nutrients get into the cell and how toxins get out of the cell. It’s also how hormones get into the cell and out of the cell. So if your cellular membrane is junk, I don’t care how many patches you put on yourself, I don’t care how many creams or turkeys or pellets, you and you lather yourself up with, you are never going to be in hormonal balance. So talk to me a little bit about that cellular membrane. And what do we know about how minerals can make that membrane more receptive to the hormones in our body?

Caroline Alan  

So it’s, it’s so cool the cellular membrane is, it’s the way a cell works is absolutely, it’s really cool. But I always like to help people think about it this way. So if you’re in a room and imagine the room is a cell, okay, maybe you have one door and one window. If one if you can’t open the window, because it’s you know, been painted closed with seed oils, you know, right. And you you the door is locked from the outside, well, nothing can come in and out. Okay. But let’s say you have one door in one window, well, some things can come in and out. But if you had four doors and four windows, then the efficiency of both nutrients in and bio waste and toxins out would be greatly affected. Okay, yeah, that is so important to the overall nutritional system, and replenishment. I love this word replenishment because, you know, we can supplement, which means stuffing a whole bunch of stuff into our body and hoping the body can do something with it. Or we can actually understand the way the replenishment system works in the body. And we can provide things that that replenishment system naturally can utilize. And so, if you have the cell lining, one of the cool things about humic, which is part of one component of plant based minerals, is that it interacts with the proteins and cell walls, causing it to open more channels. Okay, now most channels that open in a cell wall, they’re gated, because the cell is it, the wall is a place to keep non beneficial substances out of the inside of yourself. And that’s fantastic. Okay, now, the sad thing was something like glyphosate is that your body recognizes glyphosate as glycine, which is one of the most prevalent amino acids in your body and it will let it into the cell. Okay, so that’s one of the reasons glyphosate is so bad for us. Okay. So what we want but the so most of the channels that open in a cell wall are gated, so it’s like a magnesium molecule hits the cell and it says the Sal goes, Oh, that’s magnesium, let’s let it in. Okay. But the fulvic molecule, which is the other component of plant based minerals, it’s called a flavonoids. And a flavonoids is a transport a transportation molecule. And the fulvic molecule is the most effective transportation molecule, it’ll carry 60 times its weight of nutritional elements, hormones, minerals, amino acids into the cell. And any channel that opens in that cell wall, it gets a free pass through. Wow. So this is a way that is especially in this is why it helps these help people so much, when they’re struggling to get into that fat adapted state that that fasting state, because when they’re going through that process, if their cell linings are clogged, they’re getting way fewer minerals into their cells, and everything starts to glitch, like your all your electrical systems, the communication between cells, all of the things start to glitch, okay, so what you want to do is actually provide these things that both increase the number of doors and windows that you have in your room, and then have a whole bunch of guys with backpacks, carrying things in and bringing them into you, you know, and then filling up all the trash and taking it out. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

I love that. And now, I love that analogy. I’ve never heard anybody describe a cell that way. And I think it really helps because the cell is your inner miracle. Like when you actually stop. And you look at what your cells are doing is they’re doing exactly what you just said, they’re keeping the bad out. And they’re letting the good in. And what I just heard on what you just said is with a mineral deficiency, that system becomes dysfunctional. So I’ll give you an example of where we see it. And then you can kind of tell me if you’ve seen this in your community. For years in my clinic, we worked on vitamin D levels, because vitamin D is so important for hormonal production. And what I found is just giving somebody vitamin D, didn’t always make their vitamin D levels go up, like I had people on Mega dosing vitamin D, and then we would check every month. Once we started to shift something like fix the gut microbiome, or if we started to pull heavy metals out, all of a sudden their vitamin D levels started to go up. But if I what I didn’t do is take my thought to a deeper level, which is well what was in the head, what caught Why was the heavy metal causing that. And why was the gut dysbiosis blocking this cellular health. And now you have me thinking maybe it’s minerals, that if you have a dysbiotic gut, you don’t have a right amount of minerals that you can pull from your foods that don’t even have enough minerals. And then if you are have heavy metals in in you what I know about heavy metals is they can bind to minerals, and they can make you even more mineral deficient. So once we fix those problems, we saw vitamin D go up. But what now I’m thinking is I could have just given them some minerals, and we probably would have seen vitamin D go up a lot quicker. So have you seen other parts of stuff that somebody’s trying to fix whether it’s increased a hormone, or increased vitamin D, or get into a deeper ketosis? Where does do minerals fit into that part of the conversation?

Caroline Alan  

The answers to all of those, okay, I’ll give you me. I’m a good example. I had hypoglycemia all my life. Very bad glycogen glut hyperglycemia. I actually fell asleep as I like passed out at the wheel driving, you know, had a huge accident as a result because of hyperglycemia. I have no hypoglycemia now. None. Yeah. Okay. So the thing, you know, I kind of want to go, Well, I want to go back to this basic understanding of the body as cells. And inside your cells is where all of the energy in your body almost all of the energy in your body is generated for all of those biosynthesis processes, whether it’s hormone production, or whether it’s moving things around your body to get to the right places, whether it’s, you know, blood sugar regulation, or whether it’s, you know, creating a hospitable environment for beneficial micro organisms in your gut. Whether you know, every single process in your body is fueled by the energy generated in the mitochondria. So, I always say I say to people, if there is one thing that you can do for your health, one thing thing is try to find a way to get a full spectrum mineral replenishment tool. And full spectrum is so important, okay? If we think about the body as this ecosystem they’re in. And, you know, there’s about, there’s about 17 to 20 minerals that depending on who you talk to, that your body absolutely needs, okay? We generally think about our five to six them, like the macro minerals, or, or the electrolytes that people use. But your body needs this full spectrum. And many of them are extremely important, even though they’re needed in very small amounts. They’re extremely important for important things like thyroid, like hormonal production, like adrenals. So there is no way even if you go and do a test, let’s if people say, Well, should I go test and find out how I’m doing? I’m like, well, that’s a good idea. But even I don’t care how smart you are, as a practitioner, or a scientist, I said, maybe Chet GPT could do it, after studying it for five or 10 years, you know, be able to tell you, if they looked at, if they looked at your particular scan, what sequence of minerals might in what amounts, I mean, it would be such a complex model, it would be, it’s unbelievable. So there’s no way. But there’s no way this brain can figure out what I need. But here’s the thing. Think about cellular systems back when cells were just developing, single cell, your cellular organism, then multicellular organisms, and then actual little plate plants, or move, you know, little bugs and etc. All of those operate with cells as well. And cells operate in such a way that minerals and amino acids have to get inside the cells to do their job. Yeah, so there had to be some sort of method evolved right alongside them or cellular life on this planet would not have thrived. So this is the thing about plant based minerals is they have they, they operate in synergy with the incredible innate wisdom of your body, and the cellular systems and the micro organisms and the beneficial bacteria and the fungi and the all, you know all the plant life that lives in you, as well, as you know, even anyway, just everything, literally everything.

Mindy Pelz  

Yeah, you know, in research for eat like a girl, I really dove down into what the needs of hormones were, when it comes to food. And I came up or, you know, put together this chart called the key 24. And there are 24 nutrients, you need to get on a regular basis in order to make a hormone. And I will tell you that about half of those are minerals. About maybe close to the other half are amino acids. And then there’s a sprinkling of vitamins. So that shocked me that shocked me in my research how all of a sudden this light bulb went on, like oh my god, like we’ve always heard about B six and B nine for hormonal production. We hear about vitamin D, but you don’t hear about the mineral, the minerals required to make hormones. So can you speak a little bit about what you know, specifically with your formulas? Because it’s interesting. And we may want to touch on this with the humic and fulvic mineral content, you know, sources here is that those are your not individual minerals. Those are bringing a complex grouping of minerals together. So maybe we can talk about that. What do you what do you what do we know about minerals that are needed for hormonal production? Because in case you haven’t known, we’re at a big hot hormonal mess, doesn’t matter if you’re 15 By the way, New York Times article just came out that girls are now having their period at nine that is not normal. Or if you’re in menopause, where all of a sudden everybody is slapping on patches, because there’s their symptoms are so high and nobody’s going back to this idea of just Holy shit. I just need to make sure I’ve got enough of the ingredients in my system to make a hormone and balance that hormone out.

Caroline Alan  

Well, you know, of course the biggest one is magnesium And that is that’s needed. And it’s also needed for the circulation of estrogen and progesterone. And zinc is also extremely important for, like stimulating hormone. But the reason you know, one of the challenges that I always get into when I talk about this is I worry about talking about specific minerals with people because they’re gonna go to the store, and they’re going to start, you know, going, Oh, I better get magnesium like better get cinco better get whatever it is, you know. And I, I’m really trying to get people to shift and think about minerals differently. And think about that your body actually knows what it needs when it needs it, where it needs it. And rather than thinking about and, and we know that when we’re eating foods, I think you’re, you’re the 20 for your list of 24 is really important, especially if it’s associated with foods that kind of are, how you can get those from foods you eat. And I’m not saying you can’t get any minerals from foods, I’m saying yes, eat very well get a lot of your nutrition from your foods, and then provide the humic and fulvic, which are going to support the uptake of those nutrients that you’re putting in your mouth into the cells. Okay, so yes, humic and fulvic also have all those micronutrients that you might not be getting from your food, especially if you’re eating a very low carb diet, because lots of micronutrients are in carbs. So if you’re eating a very low carb or paleo diet, you really might or you know, carnivore diet, you definitely need to think about getting some other full spectrum micronutrients. But you you what you want to do is try and provide those to your body in these natural formulated ratios. Rather than trying to do it, there’s no way that you can be wise enough and get everything, even if it’s some lab formulated. You know, like, it’s some, you know, six capsules, you have to take in this got like a list of 30. And they’re all powders and stuff that came from a lab, I’m telling you, they’re not going to get into yourself, and that’s where they need to get to.

Mindy Pelz  

So is there a combination? Do minerals work better when they’re with their friends?

Caroline Alan  

Well, they absolutely do so. So minerals work in triumvirate and pears, and quads. And they have very, very complex relationships, extremely compact, flex relationships, okay? Your body itself has that innate wisdom. So as an example, if you put a whole bunch of magnesium in your gut, let’s say you take magnesium for sleep, when you do that, what happens is the body says, Oh, I have to balance that with phosphorus and potassium. Now, where am I gonna get that? I’m gonna get that from the bones. So if you do it once in a while, okay, that might be okay. But if you do that on an ongoing basis, every day for years, that is not going to support your bone health, you see. So you have to really, this is why this whole concept of minerals is it’s just a beginning conversation. And I’m trying to bring a holistic view to people so that a lot of the information that is out there, again, I’m not, I don’t mean to, to speak badly about other ways of doing things. I’m just saying that if people begin to think about their body, and a relationship with their body and a holistic view of their body, they will recognize that there are natural ways to put minerals to replenish minerals in the system in a full spectrum way that supports all of the biosynthesis processes, all of the, you know, all of the melatonin production as well as the detoxification.

Mindy Pelz  

Yeah, you know, it’s interesting, I’m kind of broken record. No, yeah, no, I mean, your your message is very, very clear. And I would say that one of the things that I have learned with your product is I usually start off looking at a product very with a lot of skepticism. Because I am especially a supplement product, I am a huge fan of getting everything you need from your food. But as the years have gone on, and the more I’ve understand soil health, the more I’ve understood obesogens the more I understand the toxins in the world, the more I feel like we can’t just rely on food. This is why I got really excited about fasting because it was like oh, now fasting is an is a new state, you can put your body in that doesn’t cost any money, and it will heal itself. But with the conversation we’re having right now, I think the next piece that we all need to be saying is even in this world where many of us are taking insane care of our health, there are certain things we cannot get anymore. And it’s just the frickin hard truth. And those of us that have been trying to detox our life for decades, like me, and we’ve kept as many toxins out of our, our house and our environment, we’re still inundated with toxins because of this crazy world we’re living in. And so when we look at all the chronic diseases that are forming, we look at the obesity epidemic that is like exhausting me, the more I study it, the more like, I literally feel like I’m wanting to cry the system saying it’s insane. And then we’ve come up with a drug to help people lose weight. I remember hearing Zack Bush years ago, say go on and on about how humans are close to extinction. And I thought God is overreacting. And I sit here today and tell you I’m very, very concerned about the human race. I’m a specific specifically concerned about women, because it’s getting harder and harder to advise women on what they need to do to navigate this modern world. And if you’re doing nothing, I’m just going to be really transparent. If you’re doing nothing, you’re not thinking about your food, you’re not thinking about your toxic load, you’re not thinking of about adding minerals back in, you’re kind of screwed. I mean, I mean that with luck. So we have to think outside the box. Now my classic statement is even though this health moment may not be your your fault, it is your responsibility. And each one of us has to take our own responsibility back. And so I don’t mind that you’re a broken record, because I think we really need to come into this place of okay, I’m doing everything I can what else do I need to be thinking of? So we’ve talked about the humic and fulvic minerals? Can you can you explain to me why the the minerals that come from those sources are so powerful, like where do you get them? Are they from soil? What is so unique about them, compared to minerals that we could get on the shelf at our GNC?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, well, most, you know, I spend a lot of time in the aisles, at a health food stores, etc, talking to people, you know, they’re getting this particular mineral and it has to be in a particular forum, and they’re gonna have to eat it with food or without food, or they’re gonna have to eat it this time of day or that time of day. And there’s all these complexities and and they they’re, like, really stressing over which single mineral to get. And then you know, I say, Well, how many watts Do you have? Do you have a supplement graveyard at home? And they’re like, oh, yeah, they know exactly what I’m talking about. I love that. Yep. All right, right. So and I say, well, then that’s where these are probably going to end up. Because they’re, they’re made, most of them are made from rocks, shells and bones. So if you’re eating and you get a piece of rock shell or bone in your mouth, you spit it out, because you know, it’s not going to digest very well, even if you have a healthy gut, right? So the difference is that the humic and fulvic. In particularly in our product, they’re there lots of different types of humic and fulvic. Just so we’re clear. humic is the base molecule and full of it fulvic is actually extracted out of humic. Okay, oh, so just so people know that. And these these, it with our product, they come from ancient decomposed freshwater plants. So imagine an entire rainforest, back when the dinosaurs lived. A meteor hit the Yucatan. In like a few hours, it killed 75% of all life on Earth. And all of these rainforests around the Earth decomposed back into this mineral rich substance called humate. It’s in our particular products is called it’s a crystalline substance. There are other minerals around the Earth. One is Sheila G from the Himalayas. They have peat in the British Isles, they have black soil in the Amazon basin. So different these are different humic materials. So the beautiful thing about these mineral substances is that they not only carry that full spectrum of minerals that your body needs, already in the natural ratios that your body needs them. So your body uses a lot of magnesium, potassium, what we call it calcium, the boron, the what we call the macro minerals. And but it uses a whole bunch of other minerals in much smaller ratios. And in fact, the lining of your guts is also lined with receptor sites. And it’s in the same ratios. Wow. So imagine you have this, these plant based humic substances, which also includes fulvic. And they are also in the same ratios course, it makes sense, because this is where the earth works as above. So below, you know, this is just the way things are in nature. So, these, these materials have this full spectrum of minerals. And they naturally then have the delivery system for the minerals into the cells, as well as the support for the detoxification of the cells and your whole body.

Mindy Pelz  

So when I’m taking these minerals, I’m not only adding in what I need for hormones, I’m not only repairing the cellular membrane, so I can get nutrients and hormones into the cell. I’m not only powering up the mitochondria, but I’m also deep detoxing. I mean, it sounds a little little, I’m gonna be really honest, it sounds a little too good to be true. But it makes perfect sense.

Caroline Alan  

I mean, I think about it this way. So back when cellular systems were first developing, there had to be a way to get minerals into the cells. And there were also lots of concentrations of really minerals, like sulfur. And I mean, there were volcanoes or all sorts of hot spring areas where there were like lots of bad things that were really not going to help cellular systems to thrive. So there had to be methods, natural methods for detoxing cells, and detoxifying cell cellular systems. So these are just the natural tools that if you look outside your window, they’re all the plants are using it. Both humic and fulvic. All the plants are utilizing it. Your body is already pulling

Mindy Pelz  

it from the soil. They’re pulling it from the soil.

Caroline Alan  

That’s exactly what they’re utilizing.

Mindy Pelz  

It’s so you know, what fascinates me again, there’s so many places I can go with this one topic of minerals. And I might just be on a rant today, but why the fuck would we does we destroy the land we are living on when it gives us some key nutrients that keeps our ecosystems and bodies alive? Why are we doing that? This is ridiculous to think that the human body is separate from the earth enough already. This is so ridiculous. And and I you know, one of my questions was going to be like to you is do you think your product would was necessary 100 years ago?

Caroline Alan  

Well, that’s a really interesting question. I don’t think I don’t think it was as necessary at all. Okay, people foraged a lot more, you know, they weren’t, they were used, they were eating natural meats that were from animals that were foraging, so everything was different, everything was different, you know, that we had a much closer relationship. We were eating foods in season because we couldn’t refrigerate. I mean, things were really, I mean, we could 100 years ago, but you know, maybe 200 years ago. So, you know, so, you know, I really can get worked up about this as well. The thing that I really I want to bring to the conversation is I know it was like, Well, what can I do about it? What can I Yeah, yeah, and what I really see is what I can do about it, is to start with my own relationship with myself. My own relationship with the foods that I put in my body, my own, like when I put something in I’m like, how did that feel? Like actually feel it? Experience it? You know? And that’s the thing that I what’s so interesting about the minerals when you put them in your body goes Oh, thank God. Yep. Oh, that feels so good. Like you want them again. It’s a really interesting thing. We had this cool thing and in a zoo, a zoo ologists that we know in the UK, and she went to every single animal in a zoo. She put down a water a plain white bowl of water and also water with our microburst in it. Every single animal in the zoo, drank all of the Microbus water before it started the other water. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

yeah, animals know, my sea animals know our educated brain gets in the way all the time. Yeah, right intuition that is so amazing. I love that do you you know i i recommend in full transparency you know, I’m not saying this because I love Caroline, I’m saying this because I really believe in this product, every single person that I have engaged in a coaching program, the first thing they do I do is put them on beam minerals, every single one, Lisa, Billy is a new one. I know she’s reached out to you all. And she’s been very public about her health journey with me. But the very first thing I do is put them on minerals, so that I could then back away and say, let’s see what your body’s doing. Because once I get this nutrient back into it, now some of the symptoms might go away. And so I just need to see what your your body does with this. Now, something interesting, she told me, and this is just personal curiosity, is she doesn’t like the taste of them. And I thought that was fascinating, because I’m like, I love the taste of them. It doesn’t even have a taste to me. So I know what certain supplements when there’s a taste differential that tells us something, what does that tell us? You know, we

Caroline Alan  

have it’s about always probably like one in 1000 people to come up to our booth and taste our minerals and goop. I mean, everybody else is like, oh, it tastes like water. Right? And one person is like, do it well, we have what we’ve because we have an opportunity to do a scan in our booth, we’ll do a scan. And what we find is that they have a lot of depletions not just like, low levels, but deeper, they have a lot of lower level depletions. And it also could be that it’s they could I don’t know about you know her, but it also could be that they have toxicity of heavy metals. Because yeah, that immediately starts chelating out metals, so and then you could taste it like a metallic taste on your toe. You say

Mindy Pelz  

Oh, and she has a high heavy metal load?

Caroline Alan  

She Oh, she does. Yeah, but there you go. Exactly. Wow,

Mindy Pelz  

that’s so fast, because I had never heard anybody say that. But I knew it was something I knew. It wasn’t like, well suck it up, Lisa. It was like keep going. But let me figure out what that is. So that is really interesting. So

Caroline Alan  

that leads to water. In water. No, I

Mindy Pelz  

could have or do that. And that was going to be one of my other questions is, can you take too many of these minerals like is like I had a doubler dose,

Caroline Alan  

you know, and that is totally fine as long as somebody so the dark one the microbe boost, because it’s a very powerful, it’s gentle, but it is powerful detoxification element in the body. Depending on someone’s toxic load, it can cause Herxheimer responses, which is a detox response, that might be a rash. It might be headache, it might be aching, it might it could be there’s a whole we have a great article on our website, we could also put that in the notes, if you want that kind of demystifies that helps people understand it. But you know, I’m actually somebody I never used to hurt. But now ever since I took I had long COVID If I drink our microbeads, straight, I will start getting pimples, I’ll get a rash between behind my knees. I don’t know why. But if I drink it in water like that, no problem. So the beautiful thing again, like when you take a large amount, measured in milligrams of a particular mineral, you’re actually creating imbalance in the gut. But when you take it in this full spectrum way that is already formulated in those natural ratios you’re putting more in, but you’re keeping the balance. How cool is that? You can add more without throwing off the balance. Yeah, so for people who are extremely in depletion, or you’re trying to do some balancing or some removal of that heavy metal load, it’s a great idea, as long as you’re monitoring how they’re feeling, and making sure they’re not having any detox symptoms. And again, great article at the end of the article that we have has a slow introduction method for some people who are very sensitive. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

will you send it to me? I would I would love to include that. I’ll send it on to her as well. Because that was a really interesting finding so well, I mean, it’s it seems like minerals would be a boring a boring topic to many people. But I every time I leave a conversation with you, I’m left going okay, well what about this and what about that? And I do I do believe that we’re in an evolutionary mismatch the human body is you know, suffering in so many ways in this modern world. And as little as two years ago I used to say just dial in your lifestyle and you don’t need supplements, and I’m making amendments to that now and minerals is one of those like we have to bring minerals in it’s and it’s one of your supplements is the one that I take every day except for when I forget to travel with it. But but for the most part, it is just one of those ones that is an absolute so I appreciate you for pioneering the formulas for I need a path for us all to get it, I enjoy taking it. It’s easy. It’s tasty. So I just want to applaud you for that. Before I ask you the last question what let me know, like, Where can people find you? I think we have some discount code so and how long would you recommend people take this? Because the other piece that I’m really trying to get people out of is let me take something for a week and then go and then claim that that thing is no good. Like, how long do you take it? And maybe a great question is, is there? Do you feel there’s ever a time you get off of it?

Caroline Alan  

Yeah, well, I’m gonna take these minerals for the rest of my life. And it’s why I’ve researched them so deeply, because I want to make sure they’re safe, and they’re going to be good. And because I literally believe you need to be taking these for the rest of your life. So that said, It’s All Over the Map how people respond. Some people after taking it for three days are like, Oh, my gosh, I’ve had such a huge change, right there, cramping goes away, or they feel more energy. But again, we’re working with a body with the body as an ecosystem. And ecosystems work best when you slowly change over a period of time. So if you buy one set of our products, what we call our advanced set, it’s a two month supply for one person, but I always tell people is do the two months, every single day, every single day, take it every day for two months. And then if you don’t think it’s doing anything, stop, and after 10 days to go, oh, it was the mineral so it was making me feel better. I mean, across the board that that’s what happens. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

I used to do that my clinic all the time, when people would say, Oh, I don’t know if this supplements helping me I’d say, okay, great. Let’s pause it. Let’s see if there’s a shift. So I love that. And how do people find you they

Caroline Alan  

they can find beam minerals at beam minerals.com. And that has two M’s in the middle. They can also find me at mineral geek.com.

Mindy Pelz  

I love that we

Caroline Alan  

also have we have some good videos and different things on our YouTube channel, as well.

Mindy Pelz  

And we’ll leave we’ll leave in the notes. I know you guys have a discount code, and it’s probably be mineral b minerals.com, backslash resetter. Or reset. That’s it? Yeah, that’s it?

Caroline Alan  

Or you can they can just go to the website regularly and just type in resetter at checkout to get the discount. 20% discount code. Yeah, amazing.

Mindy Pelz  

Okay, here’s my last question. And I’m always so fascinated people’s answers. What is your definition of health, your personal definition of health? And how do you know you are healthy, that you’re living in a state of health?

Caroline Alan  

My personal definition of health would be that I’m able to be embodied and present in every moment. So not just in that means, you know, because I don’t think I’m trying to get to a study person specifics state that’s like this, because flatlined is flatlined, you know. So it’s going to ebb and flow and there’s going to be changes. So my ability and to have enough bandwidth and capacity to be present with whatever’s happening, both internally, at least what appears to be external in my life, that to me is what health is I, I just had an opportunity to go and be with my family during a very challenging time. And I felt really happy because I felt like I was able to do that I was able to be present, even though there were lots of different challenging things that occurred and just not go off my, you know, not go ballistic, or not get too pressed or not, you know, in in, I took care of myself, like, having that bandwidth allows me to take better care of myself. So it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Whereas you know, the other way it can be self fulfilling the opposite way. Yeah. Yeah,

Mindy Pelz  

I call that regulation. You know, when you are when you are regulated, you can handle stress a lot more. And we are living in a world where so many people are dysregulated. So I love that I again, thank you, Caroline, for everything you’re doing, I keep bringing us amazing products like that, like this. We really really appreciate it and it’s the world really needs it.

Caroline Alan  

Thank you so much Mindy for what you’re doing and supporting women and their health. It’s such it’s so needed and I feel it is literally the apex of what’s happening in our world. It’s, it’s exploding, and it’s going to be amazing. So thank you.

Mindy Pelz  

Thank you so much for joining me in today’s episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we’d love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.

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