“People really want to use food as medicine, they want a very natural and holistic approach.”
Delve into the fascinating world of seed cycling with Yasmin and Kaya, the co-founders of Beeya, a wellness company dedicated to natural, food-based solutions for hormonal imbalances. In this episode they explain how incorporating flax, pumpkin, sesame, and sunflower seeds into your diet can serve as hormonal medicine, supporting the balance of estrogen and progesterone throughout different phases of a woman’s life. Whether you’re menstruating, perimenopausal, or postmenopausal, this insightful discussion reveals how seed cycling can enhance mood, energy, and sleep.
In this podcast, The Impact of Diet on Hormones & How Seed Cycling Helps, you’ll learn:
- The ancient healing strategy of using four seeds can help balance your hormones
- The impact of seed cycling on estrogen and progesterone production
- The importance of early hormonal education for younger generations
- The future of natural hormonal health solutions
The Ancient Art of Seed Cycling
Seed cycling, an ancient healing strategy, has gained recognition in contemporary wellness circles for its potential to balance hormones naturally. This practice involves consuming four seeds in a specific sequence that mirrors the phases of the menstrual cycle. This method has been used for centuries and is now being explored by individuals just like Yasmin and Kaya, who have experienced the benefits firsthand. They believe that by incorporating these seeds into their diet, women can potentially alleviate PMS symptoms, regulate their menstrual cycles, and enhance hormone health.
Seed Cycling for Menopausal Women
Don’t worry my menopausal and postmenopausal ladies, the benefits of seed cycling extend beyond the reproductive years, offering relief for you too! During these transitional phases, Yasmin and Kaya, have found that seed cycling can be particularly beneficial for menopausal women, helping to balance estrogen and progesterone levels, thus reducing the common symptoms in menopause. For women who are looking to avoid or minimize the use of hormone replacement therapy (HRT), seed cycling provides a natural alternative that can be integrated into their daily routine.
Pioneering Research in Natural Hormonal Health Solutions
One thing that we spoke about is how passionate Yasmin and Kaya are not only about spreading the word about seed cycling but also about providing more scientific validation for its effectiveness. They are excited to announce their upcoming clinical trial, which will be a groundbreaking study in the field of natural hormonal health solutions. This trial aims to gather concrete data that can support the anecdotal evidence of seed cyclings benefits. By conducting rigorous research, Beeya hopes to bridge the gap between traditional wisdom and modern science, empowering women to make informed choices about their hormonal health. The results of this study could be a significant step forward in the acceptance of natural remedies as a legitimate approach to managing hormonal imbalances.
This episode of The Resetter Podcast with Dr. Mindy Pelz, Yasmin, and Kaya from Beeya is a treasure trove of information for anyone looking to balance their hormones naturally. Whether you’re dealing with PMS, or menopausal symptoms, or just want to optimize your health, seed cycling could be the answer. If you’re interested in trying seed cycling for yourself, try Beeya Wellness, use code PELZ to receive $5 off your first order of seed cycling and Happy Hormones Kit.
And as always, let me know how it works for you!
Mindy Pelz
On this episode of The resetter podcast, we’re going to talk about a really cool food that can be hormonal medicine. So let me give you a little idea of what you’re about to listen to. So I want to introduce you to Yasmin and Kaya, they are the cofounders of Beeya is their company. It’s a wellness company that is helping women overcome hormonal imbalances, using natural food based solutions. And they have a deep education around the impact of lifestyle on body health, which, you know, is hopefully you all know is a big message of mine is let’s use lifestyle to heal ourselves. And they started a company, this company that does seed cycling, so if you haven’t heard of seed cycling, it’s been around for some time, I call it an ancient healing strategy where you eat certain seeds, you’re going to hear the four seeds here, they are flax, they are pumpkin, they are sesame, and they’re sunflower seeds, and we break each seed down and what they do and what part of the cycle, so cycling these seeds in at different parts of the menstrual cycle to help balance hormones. Now, for menopausal women don’t don’t jump off because there was so much discussion in here about how seeds can balance specifically estrogen and progesterone. If you are a menstruating woman, there is a cycle to do that with and seed cycling can help you not only produce hormones help you break down hormones, but help keep this balance of estrogen and progesterone intact. If you are menopausal or postmenopausal. We already know progesterone and estrogen are out of balance with each other. It’s part of the nature of these hormones on their decline. So using something like seed cycling can be really helpful for balancing you’ll hear in this discussion, balancing moods, and energy and sleep which are big issues that perimenopause and menopausal women are dealing with. So this is a very nuanced conversation, I am very interested in bringing you topics that show you that food is hormonal medicine. And I could not go many months longer without bringing new seed cycling because it’s standing the test of time. Everybody can do it. So here you go. Kaya and Yasmin such lovely humans. And those of you that want to test their products, check the show notes, we do have discount codes, we have links, so you can go there. And I say give it a try. After this episode, they they convinced me so let’s see what they what you learn from it. And let’s all give it a try. Welcome to the resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself. Again, if you have a passion for learning, if you’re looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you.
I just want to welcome you both. I’m really excited to have this conversation with you. So let me just start off by saying welcome. Let’s dive into seed cycling. So yeah, happy to have you gals here.
Kaya
We’re so happy to be here. Thanks for inviting us. It’s such an honor.
Yasmin
It is we love your work so much. So we’re excited to be here.
Mindy Pelz
Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. You know, one of the messages that I think we both share all three of us share is this idea that that food is medicine. And I have learned that at a very early age, I had a mother that knew from the get go back in the 70s that food was medicine. I had a healing crisis in my 20s where a homeopathic doctor showed me the door out through changing my food choices. And then my Peri menopausal and menopausal years, I really started to combine this concept of food and fasting to use it as hormonal medicine. So I feel like my life has been on this journey of looking at food literally like we look at medicine. Seed cycling is really interesting for me because I’m gonna be really transparent. The first time I heard it, I was like, There’s no way hormones are so complicated. There’s no way you’re going to tell me to eat some almonds or eat, you know, whatever set seeds, pumpkin seeds, and my hormonal situations going to be better. So my first question is, what is seed cycling and why does it work for hormones?
Kaya
I know we’ve all kind of gone through that same thing of hearing about seed cycling and feeling like is this witchcraft? Or what is that there’s no way that seeds could do anything. But we like to say that seeds are a little bit. Seed Cycling is a little bit like magic and a little bit like science combined. Really what it is, is that there’s not a lot of research actually, there’s not any research specifically on seed cycling. But there’s so much research on the nutrients in the seeds. So what you do with seed cycling is essentially you’re rotating for specific seeds throughout a menstrual cycle. So let’s just say the average menstrual cycle is 28 days, you’re rotating the seeds throughout the menstrual cycle to support the two main sex hormones that we’re trying to balance, estrogen and progesterone. And typically imbalances in these hormones are what cause things like PMS or irregular cycles. More often than not, it’s too much estrogen in relationship to progesterone that causes these sort of gnarly periods. So the seeds the nutrients in these seats are supporting essentially the balance between estrogen and progesterone, the healthy elimination of estrogen, and the production of progesterone as well. So the four seeds are flax, pumpkin, sesame, and sunflower and we added him to our blends, because when love, they taste really good. And they’re completely loved him too. Yeah, we love him too. It makes it taste way better. Because as you can imagine grounding seeds every day. Like there can be, you know, a little bit of a challenge there. But we really wanted to make like a great tasting product that people would love to take every single day. And Mindy, you know so much about this. But when you think about those seeds, and you think about the nutrients in them, you can understand why this could potentially work to support hormones because you have fatty acids, you have fiber, you have antioxidants you have all these things that are hormones need to not only be effectively eliminated in the body, but also be produced and balanced as well. So that’s just seed cycling in a nutshell, but we can dive into all the nutrients in the seeds too. Yeah, you know, the other thing that’s interesting I find about seeds and all my research is it’s an incredible prebiotic. So where I go with the statement you just made was, okay, if it’s a great prebiotic, then do we have any research on just the prebiotic component of seeds supporting the strobe alone that set of bacteria that break estrogen down because I could take what you just said and go okay, so and I want to dive into some of these nutrients. So if it’s bringing a mineral or a vitamin in the seeds, and then it’s also feeding this part of our microbiome that breaks estrogen down that makes it wickedly powerful. So do we know if it if it supports good bacterial growth? Yeah, well, you know, the the star of seed cycling is probably flax seeds, because there’s so much research on flax seeds and so for the first half of the cycle, through met from menstruation through the follicular phase, you’re taking flax and pumpkin and the reason flax seeds are so powerful, they contain fatty acids, they contain fiber, but they also contain lignans. And we know that our our gut bacteria break down lignans into these things that are kind of like phyto estrogens. Basically, they have weak estrogenic properties. So I hate to say that because a lot of women who have estrogen dominant conditions get scared of things like flax, it’s kind of controversial. And some experts like to avoid, like flax and soy and these phyto estrogens, if somebody is dealing with something like that, it depends. It depends on the expert for
Mindy Pelz
me, like that discussion, we have to unpack but yeah,
Kaya
I know. I know. And but actually, there’s really cool research that yeah, again, the estrogenic properties are our weaker, and actually what we’re seeing instead is a more modulating effect. So it can help to effectively eliminate and antagonize the effects of estrogen. So if somebody is dealing with estrogen dominance, it can actually be pretty helpful. That was what happened to me I had I’ve had a case of estrogen dominance since I started to get my periods and especially postpartum I had really, really horrible periods. They were heavier than normal. They were I was getting more cramps than normal. And seat cycling was pretty much the only thing that worked for me within one month of cycling, my cramps went away. My periods were so much lighter, they went from being like eight days to being six days. So speaking from personal experience, as somebody who has estrogen dominance, I love flax seeds. But I know that, you know, some people feel differently.
Mindy Pelz
Right, right. You know, it’s interesting. So I don’t want to leave the estrogen dominance. Talk for a hot moment. Because when you acknowledge that you are understood that you had estrogen dominance did was it because of exposure to chemicals or like because our experience that we’ve seen now my experience with the Dutch test, and looking at hormones test is pretty much in women over 40. And we don’t see a lot of estrogen dominance. We see actually a lack of estrogen but then if you go and you look at the book breakdown of that estrogen in the metabolites, you see a dominant four Oh h, which is toxic estrogen. So I don’t know if you’re comfortable talking about, you know a little bit about how you discovered your estrogen dominant because I think that might be an important nuance that would be helpful. Yeah, totally. It really started off as signs for me as a teenager, especially really struggling with acne for over a decade, having really bad painful cystic acne and then having pretty bad periods, not debilitating, but they were heavier than I knew that they should be. They were a little bit longer than I knew. And then I worked with a naturopathic doctor who ran a Dutch test on me. And similarly, I found that I had estrogen dominance through that Dutch test. And then again, later running tests, and actually, estrogen dominance runs in my family. Now, there’s so much environmental factors that can come to the table, especially like you said, toxins, imbalanced blood sugar, stress, you know, so many different things that probably as a teenager, I had, I was on a vegetarian diet for 25 years. And for 10 of those years, I was on a vegan diet, no shade to any of those things. But I was like a junk food vegan. So I was essentially like, as long as it didn’t have animal products in it, I thought it was fine and great for me. But that probably led to a significant amount of blood sugar imbalances, insulin resistance, which I think really drove my estrogen dominance in particular. But if anybody’s struggling with acne, hormonal acne, heavy periods, painful periods, that’s something that they probably should look into. Yeah.
Mindy Pelz
And I think, and Yasmin, I want to hear about your story with seed cycling, just so people understand the power of this before we break it into why it actually works. But But you said something that was really interesting, which is, I think, when we talk about sex hormones, we kind of pull them out. And we make them like individuals. But actually, you can’t do that, because they all interact with each other. In fasciae. Girl, I talked about how estrogen and progesterone were are like twin sisters. And like, we call them the same, they look the same, but they have vastly different personalities. But the conversation that I think needs to happen deeper beyond that, is, if one of them’s in a bad mood, you know, the other one’s gonna get in a bad mood too. So we need to know how to put them into balance with each other. So is that what we’re seeing with seed cycling? And and, Yasmin, is that what you noticed when you said you had some hormonal bumps? I’m wondering if it’s because seed cycling brings estrogen and progesterone together and starts to balance them in this unique way.
Yasmin
You know, Mindy, it’s interesting, because I didn’t know I was estrogen dominant, or what was going on, I just knew I wasn’t feeling well, for majority of my life, probably 20 years. And it started maybe when I was 13, I had debilitating periods. I remember being in high school and not being able to go to my class. And at the time, which was very common, a lot of doctors recommend going on the birth control pill, right. So where we were all on it, I took the birth control pill only because it debilitating periods, and I was on it for a good maybe 15 years. And for those 15 years, I thought I was like, oh, all the horrible cramps, my skin looks clear. I thought it was doing this incredible thing. I wasn’t getting my period for 15 years, which is wild now being in the space how that was happening. But you know, we weren’t talking about stuff like that in the past. And I personally got off of it in my late 20s. And that’s when it was horrible. So I had something called post birth control syndrome, again, didn’t even know what that was. And it felt like my hormones were completely out of control. And was came back with a vengeance than when I was even at the age of 13. So I think going back to your question of, you know, did I see an impact with I think my, you know, I didn’t test at the time to be honest, where my hormones were, but I knew just straight straight from my experience that it was just debilitating. I you know, like Kayla was saying, I also had cystic acne, I had debilitating cramps. You know, I know, we’re all so passionate about showing up as our best selves. And that was like, How can I show up in this job that I love and four or five days out of every month? I’m completely out of commission like, but I thought for the longest time that was normal until I saw a functional medicine doctor, she mentioned seed cycling, which similar to what you said beginning of the podcast, I was like, this is BS like what is she talking about seeds and I have this like, major hormonal issue and yeah, okay, I had brought it up. She was getting her master’s and, you know, they were learning about seed cycling. So that was my first foray. It took me two years to do it because I thought it was bogus and witchcraft. I was like, There’s no way but also similarly to Kea one month and for me my symptoms, specifically breast tenderness, which was so painful back then completely went away. And my cramps the first month was like 50% better and it only got better in time. So, I know it sounds so crazy, but you know, both just from my personal experience, it was just life changing.
Mindy Pelz
So, you know, I always love to watch the trends that go through or I call it the cultural zeitgeist, like, what are all the trends? Like, right now the trend is everybody’s like HRT, bioidenticals. Like, I call it, we’ve been in a cultural Husch, around menopause. And now everybody, it’s like cultural chaos. Like, everybody’s like, yeah, cream me up, Patch me up. And so I like to just like, watch the trends and go, is that trend gonna stick around? What what are people going to do with that? So with seeds, I’ve been watching this trend. I mean, it’s an old ancient habit. So maybe you guys can talk to that about that. But I it’s like, every once in a while, I just see it keep coming back in and coming back in. And I’m like, this trend is not going away. There has to be something there. So outside of the estrogen and progesterone balance it creates, can you talk a little bit about why it works like what is the seed actually doing? You’re getting a nutrient, but I could take a supplement, I could cycle those nutrients. What is it about the seed? Yeah, so
Kaya
the cool thing about seed cycling is that it honors that we are cyclical beings, basically, that women have this 28 day cycle. And so we use flax seed and pumpkin seeds in the first half of the cycle, and then sesame and sunflower in the second half. And those are, you know, everybody says that seed cycling is ancient, we actually cannot figure out who invented it. We’ve had a few people say that they were the one or this other guy, this naturopathic doctor, this guy, so shout out to you, whoever you are, you haven’t, really. But it’s become very popular. I think recently, because Monday, as you were saying, people really want to use food as medicine. They want a very natural and holistic approach. And especially people who like Yasmin said, who are on birth control for years, for people who are just kind of putting a bandaid on the symptoms, they want something that they can take and feel really good about. And that’s the cool thing about seed cycling is it’s seeds. It’s literally food. Right? So there’s other than somebody having an allergy or intolerance to the seeds. There’s virtually no harm that can be done with having see for sure. Yeah, right. So you know, it’s not like taking a medication. But we talked about flax, which has the fatty acids, it has a lignans, it has magnesium, let’s talk about pumpkin seeds, which are also used in the first half. So those have things like iron rich source of magnesium tryptophan, which we know is a precursor to serotonin, and then melatonin. So we hear so many women who say they are sleeping better than ever when they when they implement seed cycling. And it’s kind of a cool circle, because we know that we need sleep for progesterone. And so it’s kind of like working on the melatonin aspect. But it’s also working to support progesterone levels. And then we have sesame and we have sunflower seeds, which contain also against these fatty acids. And then things like manganese and vitamin E, these antioxidants and flavonoids that essentially help with blood sugar imbalances, and also with inflammation. And so a lot of what we’ve noticed, and a lot of what we’ve talked to with experts is that women who really struggle with their periods, probably one of the number one things they can do is focus on their blood sugar. So anything that they can implement in their diet that supports healthy blood sugar is going to be a win, which is why I think the seeds work in that sense. Also with reducing inflammation also, with bringing in all these nutrients that are hormones need to be produced and to be modulated as well. So it’s kind of like hitting your body from all different sides, essentially using food as medicine. Yeah.
Mindy Pelz
So okay, so then, does it matter what type of like, like, then I you know, when I sit at like, I
Kaya
go to the farmers market, and I there’s one vendor there that has nuts and seeds. I know, okay, it needs to be raw. If I can get a sprouted almond that would be better, you know? So is there something we need to know about the quality of the seed? Or can I just rush off and start putting pumpkin seeds on my salads at a certain time of my cycle? Yeah, well, if somebody can get their hands on these in any which way, I mean, that’s going to be better than nothing but quality definitely matters, which is why we wanted to create a product for people because so many of the seeds that are sitting at the grocery store have been on that shelf for God knows how long we know that seeds when they’re exposed to light and they’re exposed to heat they become rancid. So we want to make sure that people are choosing seeds and nuts. So we’re making sure that people are choosing highest quality so for us, we go with organic, we try to ground grind them as frequently as possible. So they’re freshly ground because you should take ground seeds when your seed cycling not whole seeds. That’s when all the oils are released. That’s when you get beneficial rounds. So we we we have freshly ground seeds in our product organic, we get them from a high quality farm that we love and work with. So the quality does matter. And then we also recommend refrigerating your seeds when possible, because again, when they’re exposed to light and heat, they can become rancid, and nobody wants to rancid oils in their body.
Yasmin
No, no, just to add what Kay was doing, because I was doing see TechLink so incorrectly for a while. But even when you go to, I thought, Oh, let me go to the grocery store and buy grounded seeds, I can just create it. But what I learned through the process of us creating our own product when you buy cold milled seeds, which is what you have in the grocery stores that strips out all the oils, which K have mentioned, that’s the magic and the nutrient value in the seat. So I just want to share that because I was doing it wrong. And also we do third party testing for all the metals. Since we know there has been some Yeah, conversation around especially flax seeds. So yeah, we do all the checks just to kind of make sure of that as well.
Mindy Pelz
So you’re just so I have a visual yours comes in a powder. Is that Is it like a powder or that yeah, I guess you could describe it as a powder.
Kaya
It’s not as fine as a powder. But they’re imagined like coffee grinds, essentially. But there seems
Mindy Pelz
okay. And I’ve watched on your Instagram, you guys put them in everything like, like, which seems really brilliant. So are there certain foods? Do you just take a scoop of it and eat it? Or are there certain foods that they pair better with? Have you experimented with pairing with other foods like squashes, we know will help with progesterone production? Like have you have you looked at that combination?
Kaya
Yeah, that’s a good question. We haven’t gotten too much into the food combining other than saying that seed cycling is not a miracle cure. So you can’t just throw seeds at your life and be doing every other unhealthy habit and expect for changes to happen. So the nice thing is that all of the healthy habits that we recommend, including seed cycling, are going to support all of our hormones or testosterone or progesterone or estrogen. We recommend putting them in anything as long as you’re not cooking or baking them. We don’t want to lose the value there. So I love to blend it in my smoothies. Yasmin sometimes we’ll put it in yogurt, or she’ll just take it by the spoonful. It really depends people put it on their avocado toast they definitely are versatile, which is really nice.
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Because it’s got to be easy. This has been my my thing that I’ve discovered with fast like a girl was people got such women got such incredible results like dropped weight got off medication, that fertility, oh my god, the number of women that got pregnant following the fasting cycle that was in there. And a part of why I thought actually a lot of like, what how it works so well for so many women. And I think what fasting does is it gives you a break from the toxic food. And if you can put that in the appropriate part of your menstrual cycle, then okay, now you’re recovering from this Western diet. So if I start seed cycling, but I’m eating inflammatory foods is what I’m interpreting, you’re saying is that it, it may not be that miracle cure that both of you experienced with this, and many of the women that have used your product, totally, but I’m sure similarly to you, Mindy, the people that are looking out for you are not necessarily partaking in very unhealthy habits. They’re already primed for doing what works for them. And I love that you’re incorporating that because that’s just that’s such a mission for us. Because it’s we’re actually not taught to think about our menstrual cycle unless we are a have really bad periods or trying to avoid pregnancy or trying to get pregnant. And those first two, it’s like, forget about it, you’re trying to avoid pregnancy or you have bad periods, somebody
Kaya
just throws hormonal birth control at you. And you’re like, Okay, check that off. I don’t even have to have a period anymore. I don’t have to think about this. And then what we often see is women in their 20s and 30s, who get off of hormonal birth control after all these years. And they’re like, I don’t understand my body. I don’t understand my hormones. I don’t even know what’s going on with me. Maybe I’m experiencing infertility, I need to get back on track. Hopefully they get pregnant. If not, then they have to go on this whole journey and Yasmin and I just want to reach the younger group of women specifically, because if we could help them avoid all of the downstream consequences of not taking care of your hormones and things like PCOS or infertility, or fibroids or cysts are all the, you know, acne that we had to deal with. And that would be so nice. And they don’t have to have like a crazy in depth understanding of it all, but just basic enough to know that their everyday choices can make such a huge impact on their hormones and avoid all of these like painful things that I had to deal with.
Mindy Pelz
Right. You know, it’s it’s interesting you say that I was actually just coming upstairs into my office to do this interview. And my son’s girlfriend was over and I I said, I’m gonna go do an interview on seat cycling, do you know and she’s in her early 20s? I might do you know anything about it, I was thinking that I was like old and didn’t, you know, was like behind the curve like, surely the 20 year old would know. And she’s like, I don’t know anything about it. She’s like, I don’t even really know anything about my hormones. Of course, my brain was like, well, we’re gonna fix that. But But I want to I do want to zero in on this younger generation. Because, you know, I remember when my daughter went through puberty, she had horrible, horrible periods. And so as your company has grown, what do you seen with the that, you know, teenagers, 20 year olds? Are they embracing this idea? Are they wanting to know more, because we have a lot of menopausal women that have have daughters in this category. And we’re, as we’re as equally concerned about our hormones, as we are, you know, our own daughters. So what do we need to know about that generation?
Yasmin
You know, what just comes to mind maybe which is so interesting. We actually have a lot of women in perimenopause and menopause using our blends as well. And so once they are on it, they’re like, I need to get my teenage daughter onto this. And if so many kids, they think, and I know you talk a lot about this. They’re like, If I only knew how to support my hormones in my 20s 30s, and 40s, I wouldn’t be where I am today. So we have so many mothers advocating for their daughters, and we have family seed cycling. So I just think that is such a cool generational shift and seeing that, so it’s been really fun. Yeah, yeah,
Mindy Pelz
I can’t even imagine my mom would have never said to me, what am I taught, he’s like, hey, it takes some seeds. And like, we weren’t even thinking about the menstrual cycle back there. And I feel like now it’s like coming in vogue. And we’re, and we’re actually starting to talk about
Kaya
So Oh, it’s so nice to because when I was growing up, it actually wasn’t really that cool to think about your health in general. Like, no, I kind of wanted to go my my family is South Asian. We’re Indian. And there’s so many ARIA Vedic principles that my parents would bring into our lives of like, if you’re feeling if you have aches and pains, take Tumeric take Honey, don’t go just reach for, you know, Tylenol, or this or that. And I kind of fought against those things. Because I wanted to be so westernized. I wanted to be so cool. I wanted to eat pop tarts with my friends. I didn’t care about any of that stuff. I wasn’t exercising. And so what what I’ve seen the shift that I’ve seen recently with these younger generations is it’s actually cool to care about their bodies. It’s yeah, to care about their health. It’s cool to take care of themselves. And I’m so I’m just so hopeful for those group of people because they have they have so much accessibility with social media. I know there’s a downside to it, but just to see like, what’s in what’s trending, what’s healthy, what they can do, and I’m just happy they’re getting educated.
Yasmin
And can I always talk about like, how do we make hormones fun for women, like, younger women, so we talk about that every week with our content? Like, let’s make it fun. Even for me if it’s too technical. I’m like, You lost me. You know, you lost me. So we talked about it all the time. You know, I
Mindy Pelz
that’s what when I put the fasting cycle together, I actually did it for my patients. And then I was like, okay, follicular luteal, like, you know, it’s just so and then you start luteinizing hormone, follicular, stimulating, like at some point your eyes roll back. And so that’s why I was like, Okay, let’s just call this what happens here, power phase manifestation, like I came up with those fun words. And it was actually a conversation with Dr. Carrie Jones. Oh, amazing. She’s incredible. And I learned how to read the Dutch test from her. And when she went down to teach me all that I looked at her I’m like, these, this is way too complicated. She goes, Yeah, you know, we really should be giving hormones now nail polish names wouldn’t be a lot easier if they were nail polish names. They would be. So I love I love that you guys are making it fun. And I think hormones are fun. We curse hormones. But if you actually knew what hormones were doing for you, you would be like, I have a lot of progesterone. Today, I’m gonna sit on the couch. This is so great. I have an excuse, or I have a lot of estrogen today, I’m feeling very social. You know, it’s if we truly understood it, we wouldn’t be cursing them. So I love that you guys are keeping it fun. So thank you on that. Oh,
Kaya
yeah, for sure. And I think I think as women and younger women to even when I can think back to my high school days, I think intuitively we know we understand those shifts, but we can’t explain them. And because society is set up in a way that does not honor those shifts, we fight against them. But I remember even from an early age feeling like this deep reverence for, okay, I feel different when my period comes I feel different the week leading up what does that mean? And I couldn’t put words to it until I got much older. But it’s so cool when you understand it and you lean into it and you accept that. This is all women go through this in one form or another and when we honor it and when we Respect, it can be such a huge superpower.
Mindy Pelz
Yeah, amazing. So I want to break down a couple of the seeds because I have a few questions on them. Like flax seed, I heard, you should never have the full flax seed that now you’re grinding them. But I’ve heard that the oil like the power of flax seed isn’t actually in the seed, you have to sort of manipulate it a bit to be able to get the healing power. Is that true?
Kaya
That’s definitely what we learned from our medical adviser who’s a naturopathic doctor and everybody who recommends seed cycling to ground the seed specifically. And that’s when you really get the nutrients out of them.
Mindy Pelz
You put flax
Kaya
seed in from which days of the cycle. So flaxseed and pumpkin seeds, you’re taking a tablespoon of each from day one through day 14 of your cycle. So day one being the first day of the period. And then day 14 being roughly around average ovulation, you’re taking those two specific seeds to support estrogen and also healthy estrogen elimination, and then also pumpkin to help with progesterone, which is coming, you know, after ovulation. So for day 15 to 28, you take sesame and sunflower seeds. So
Mindy Pelz
that’s interesting, because the way I always understood pumpkin seeds was it was pro, it was for progesterone, like I was like, like it helps to build progesterone. So you’re using flax seed to help with estrogen, good estrogen balance, and then you’re bringing pumpkin in with the flax seed to help support estrogen progesterone balance, specifically coming out of ovulation heading into the back. Is that do I have that right? Exactly, exactly. Okay,
Kaya
that’s yeah,
Speaker 1
pumpkin seed was the first was the one that I didn’t really understand why it was always put in that for follicular phase for lack of a better term. So I like that it’s and I think we can take a rule like that. And we can apply it to a lot of things. Because what I’m hearing you say in that combination is use flax for more estrogen use progesterone for more, or use pumpkin for more progesterone, so you can balance that those two out. Again, we’re not pulling these hormones out into little silos, we’re looking at how they go together. Is that am I understanding that logic was read. And I think it’s important because otherwise people are going to start, oh, I’m just gonna dump some flax seeds on my salad. But it’s really the interchange between flax and pumpkin that works at that part of your cycle. Is that correct? Totally. And that’s again, what we see so often these days, especially amongst younger women is their progesterone is in the toilet, and their estrogen is maybe too high. And that’s what’s causing their PMS causing really horrible cycles. And also,
Kaya
I think a lot of it has to do with stress, because we know that progesterone and stress the relationship between them is, is iffy if stress is playing a dominant role. And then progesterone is going to say See you later. So we really want to support that specific balance. And sometimes it’s not, Oh, somebody’s flat out estrogen dominant, it’s just that they don’t have enough progesterone to support that balance, as you mentioned. So that’s what those seeds are doing at that particular time, not to mention all of the other beautiful qualities that they have in there, too. Yeah, you know, one
Mindy Pelz
of my other shocker is from fastonic, a girl going out into the world. And you all probably see this from your podcast followers and your the people that are using your product is how many 20 year olds do not have a period. Yeah. And it’s either because of birth control, or I think it’s largely because of stress. I think the stress levels of the teenagers and the and and the 20 year olds is so high and whenever stress is high. Progesterone is shy, she’s out she doesn’t do well. And with cortisol. So could say have you seen anybody start to use seed cycling, and specifically leaning into estrogen are leaning into flax, and pumpkin and they actually start to get their cycle back? Yeah,
Kaya
that’s one of the coolest ones. I think there’s there’s so many cool ones, get it helping people get pregnant. I love to see that. And then also people who have not had a regular cycle or a cycle sometimes in years, all of a sudden get their period back we’ve had I mean, Yasmin, maybe you can kind of point out some of the more specific stories I can’t remember now but we’ve had people who who haven’t had a period and maybe like two years, and then all of a sudden they start seed cycling and within like three months they get their cycle back and gosh, what a wonderful feeling that they are Iocked Yeah, there always is especially if they’re kind of thinking about family planning, they want to make sure they’re menstruating. they’re ovulating. We’ve had a lot of women. We spoke to a woman recently who was having an ambulatory cycle. So she was having a period, but she wasn’t ovulating. And so seed cycling was helped, basically able to help her get her ovulation back, which is we know the main event of a menstrual cycle and so important, so anytime I can get people’s faces to come back, we feel super excited.
Mindy Pelz
Yeah, that Yeah. And I mean, I was just shocked, shocked at how many women don’t have a period. And it bothered me so much, that I actually started to look into what happens when we shed each month like, you know, if you if you think about the menstrual cycle, it’s like nothing in there as a mistake. And so why would our uterine lining every month shed and of course, you have to let the unfertilized egg out somehow. So you got to get all the hormones that came in at this big peak during ovulation. It has to go somewhere. But the shocking thing that I found was that there’s actually four toxins in menstrual blood. There are pesticides, there are Falaise, there are forever chemicals. And there are plastics. And this is based off of a PubMed study. So literally, shedding every month is so much more than your ability to get pregnant. It’s actually how we detox. So using something like seed cycling seems like a really cool way to bring that cycle back. Do we know anything about these seeds and what they do for detox?
Kaya
I feel like you had mentioned something earlier about that. Yeah, well, we know that. And Mindy, you explained this so eloquently in your videos that healthy, a lot of estrogen elimination is really key. And that happens through our gut and our liver. And so I think specifically things like flax seeds also help with that anything that has a lot of fiber in it is going to help with that elimination of estrogen that you don’t want recirculating through your body causing all these issues. So I, I personally believe and just looking at all the nutrients in the seeds that it is helping with that. And it’s such a good point too, because when we shut down our period, we’re not getting this beautiful thing we get every month, which is a report card for your health. And so essentially, like, every month, your your your period tells you like how am I doing? Am I so stressed that my period went away? Or am I so going through something that my period is super heavy or super light or it’s irregular? I don’t know when it’s coming. And so our periods give us so much valuable information. And it’s it’s really sad for me to see somebody want to just voluntarily shut that down versus thinking how can I optimize it and make it what it is and and I think that’s why so many women are so in tune with their bodies, because we get that monthly report card we understand more. So how our bodies are doing versus men, they don’t get that information and they don’t get that way to properly detoxify. I remember when the raw food movement was really popular in the early I mean, when was it 2008 2009 All these women were stopped getting their periods. And they thought, Oh, that’s good. That’s a good thing. Because you know, and really what it was is they were just, they were not eating enough food. They were under eating so much that their bodies were like we’re shutting down reproduction or any opportunity of reproduction so that you’re not getting a period. But again, we really want women to feel like their periods are powerful and their periods can be really beautiful. Yeah,
Mindy Pelz
thank you for that. I you know, it’s it’s I too I love the analogy of a report card. You know, I am working a lot more with the peri menopausal and menopausal women but in perimenopause, you know one of the things that’s very classic and I’m I’m thinking about the seeds through through this lens is that you start clotting. Yeah. And that’s a sign of low progesterone. So it’s a sign like, Hey, we got to work on stress. We got to bring glucose up and now you have me thinking we need to bring in some some more seeds. So have you seen with menopausal women, the symptoms balance a little bit periods change? But I
Kaya
actually tell Yasmin all the time we talk about this that seed cycling is probably the best suited product for women in perimenopause. We’ve had so many women in perimenopause who feel like they’re not themselves, their periods are out of whack. They’ve shortened they’ve lengthen, they don’t really understand what’s going on. They’re not sleeping well, their libido is gone. And then they start to use seed cycling and their cycle becomes regulated again. So they almost feel like they’re not Peri menopausal anymore. So anytime you can get that extra extra time or those extra years to have a regular cycle. That’s really nice. Especially a lot of women who report their libido coming back after seat cycling. That’s That’s amazing. And so we’ve also had a lot of women who are going going through menopause and postmenopausal use seed cycling and Yasmin, and I want to look into this a little bit more and hopefully one day create a product specifically for them. They can use seed cycling as it is. But what we understand from our medical advisor is that it’s really the flax in the pumpkin phase that’s most important for them. So if anybody is at home listening to this, and they’re going through menopause or postmenopausal and wants to do seed cycling on their own, they can just take a tablespoon of flax and pumpkin every single day, they can use our product too. And it’s still great. But if you just want to focus on one face specifically, it’s really that flax, and pumpkin that’s going to help with estrogen and help with progesterone and all of that in those years.
Mindy Pelz
I love that. I love that. I mean, again, you know, I just got off a call with my membership Academy. And we went through all the different ways you can detox. And I was like, before you spend money on expensive detox programs, let me walk you through the basics of what it looks like to detox that will actually save you money. So when I hear what you’re saying, I’m like, yeah, like, you know, if you could take the, you know, things like the timing of fasts, and the things like I really believe that there’s moments for women to go high carb, low carb, and then we’ve got great conversations right now about protein and adding protein back in. And then we put seed cycling into this. Now you’re actually giving approachable, cost effective strategies for women that are suffering instead of us bouncing from doctor office to doctor after the doc trying to get the antidepressant right. And the patch, right, and the cream, right like that is causing them as as much crazy making as the symptoms themselves. So I love what you just said about the peri menopausal and menopausal women taking this, and I’m excited to try it myself.
Kaya
So yeah, and I think too, you know, thinking about those years and specifically perimenopause, and menopause and making them more manageable. Like, I love the food as medicine approach. And I’ve learned from experts such as yourself that really everything that we do leading up to those years, specifically with stress management, because at a certain point, or over a shutdown and our adrenals take over, anything that we can do to support the body, when it comes to stress, when it comes to nutrients when it comes to gut health can be so valuable. And that’s why I love seed cycling, because I actually think that you can also eat to improve your stress response by eating specific nutrients. So I think all of these things help at every stage of a woman’s life. Of course, you want to you know, make sure you’re older. I don’t, I’m not going to give my toddler these seeds right now. But when she’s older, you know, and she starts to get her period, I’ll give them to her. And that’s the beautiful thing about using food is anybody can use it. Yeah.
Mindy Pelz
And and there’s no, there’s no consequences if you’re using clean. I mean, that’s the most obvious like your body, you know, it’s your body figures it out because it’s in harmony with what your cells want, as opposed to a chemical that is out of harmony. So I really want to point that out. The two other seeds, the sesame and the sunflower. Okay, this one’s interesting to me because sunflower seed oil is not healthy. And it’s highly processed, and it’s inflammatory. But what you’re saying is sunflower seeds actually is so can you break down the the what’s going on with those two seeds? Yeah, I
Kaya
think all the refined seed oils so so right now we’re seeing a lot of people talking about vegetable oils and these refined seed oils and how problematic they are. And that’s essentially it because there’s so processed, there’s so refined, we don’t want to be getting our omega six fatty acids which are important by the way from those sources. When we get them from real whole food sources that’s when it’s good and when you’re also eating them with enough omega three fatty acids to which you know, flax has, gosh, I’m having such bad pregnancy brain right now. Ha which converts did AP, I don’t know you’re ever pregnant.
Mindy Pelz
Surely you brought Lisa Moscone on your podcast, she explains your actually your neurons are pruning away so
Kaya
you’re allowed to not I feel it, I feel it. But you know, you want to make sure that you’re getting a good balance of Omega three to omega six. The nice thing about these seeds is that they’re whole, they’re not seed oils, they’re not refined, they’re not processed, they’re really in their whole form other than the fact that we ground them so they are definitely a much better choice than taking something like a vegetable oil or seed oil and then sunflower and sesame seeds. They have selenium they have manganese and antioxidants flavanols all these things that are anti inflammatory. We were also a bit confused in the beginning flax, I get pumpkin I get sesame I get sunflower, we’re still learning more about and actually what’s really exciting is that Yasmin and I are going to be doing the first ever clinical trial on seed cycling pretty soon. So we just started. Yeah, we just started to work with a company. We’re going to be recruiting about 40 women to go through this process and Hopefully, we’ll be able to bring so much more information to the table. Because anecdotally, we’ve seen just how powerful this can be for 1000s of women who report back to us. And now we’ll be able to bring some research to the table and show really what it’s doing. That
Mindy Pelz
is I’m so excited. You, you all are doing that. I mean, I’ve watched I’ve listened to your podcasts, I see your reels and stuff. And I know you’ve had conversations around how little information there is out there for women, and, and putting together a research study is not really easy. And I don’t think it’s cheap. Yeah, as far as I know,
Yasmin
we’ve been wanting to do it from like, day one when we launched, but like you said, there’s a lot of investment that goes in there. And finally, we just are so confident in this, like Kay said, we see 1000s 10s of 1000s of women seed cycle on our product offer product, and we know there’s something there. So we’re just so excited, the time has come. So we’ll keep you posted once we go through it. And
Kaya
it’s such a good point to wheat. It’s like you don’t know how bad you feel until you feel good. And so we both personally know that when how our cycles are when we’re not seed cycle, versus when we are seed cycling. So for me, I, during my first pregnancy, obviously I’m not cycling when I’m pregnant. When I have a newborn, I wasn’t really thinking about anything other than keeping a newborn alive and keeping myself going. So I wasn’t seed cycling that whole time. And then it’s always a nice reminder when Yasmin and I bring it back into our lives more ritualistically that we’re like, wow, this works so well. And we can see it in ourselves. Like our periods are so much better. We feel some mood. Yeah, mood, oh my gosh, the mood that was huge for me, because two days before my period most of my life, I would feel like the world was falling apart. I would question everything I would pick fights with my husband, whatever it was, it was just it was bad. And then since seeds cycling, I have not been experiencing those intense mood shifts, which we hear a lot from our, from our community to I’m gonna
Mindy Pelz
do the game that everybody does to me. Who shouldn’t seed cycle everybody always asked me that with fasting who shouldn’t fast? And I’m curious if there’s some of an overlap, but of the same type of person. But who is there anybody who should not see it cycle? Yeah, totally.
Kaya
Well, our specific blend does contain a little bit of kamma meal in there. So if anybody is dealing with a ragweed allergy, or an allergy to flaxseed, pumpkin, sesame or sunflower, sometimes people don’t even know they have an intolerance to those things. And then they try our product. And they might discover that they have that soy allergy or intolerance, for sure. Again, anybody who’s dealing with any sort of active breast cancer or estrogen dominant related condition should work with a practitioner. Now, ideally, that practitioner will be well versed in some of these things, and maybe tell them like it could be safe for you, depending on where we’re at my mom, she went through breast cancer and the doctor that she worked with was able to bring back things like soy and flax seeds into her diet. And we felt really good about it. But it really depends on your practitioner. We also recommend that you know, if they’re younger, if they’re, if they’re younger, their family members, evaluating them or their doctor feels good about it, just because under the age of 18, you always want to make sure everything’s okay, even though it’s real food. And there are so many teenagers who work with their parents, and it works for them. If you don’t have a menstrual cycle, you don’t need to seed cycle if you’re pregnant. I don’t recommend seed cycling. If you’re breastfeeding. It depends, again, what your doctor says. But there’s really not a long list of people. Yeah, why
Mindy Pelz
not during pregnancy, because if it’s just food, you just don’t want to mess the hormonal rhythm up. That’s yeah, there’s
Kaya
so much going on with your hormones already. When you’re pregnant, there’s so much to think about I use it. Right now being pregnant, I’ll use it as extra source of fiber in my smoothies here. And there, I’ll just add it to things but there’s not a cycle to regulate. At that point, there is just this huge production of hormones happening all at once. So you don’t necessarily need to cycle something when you’re not cycling, or your host. We can add it in you know, you can add it in here and there. Some people are weary about him when they’re pregnant depends on the person, post pregnancy postpartum. It’s been so critical for me when I got my period back, it was one of the things that really helped get my hormones back in balance that I recommend to everyone who wants to get your period back after after you’ve given birth, it can be so crucial. What do you what about people with the oxalates and lectins piece of the conversation? You
Mindy Pelz
know, the in i i had a really interesting discussion with Stephen Gundry on this, because my feeling around the oxalates and the lectins are if you have gut dysbiosis then yes, you could have a reaction to a toxin that’s in, you know, something that nature has provided us and vegetable or seeds or nuts. But actually, if you have a healthy gut, you actually are fine in to be able to lean into some of these. And Steven actually agreed with me. He’s like, Yeah, everybody thought it was like an absolute. I’m like, Well, you, you are the guy that’s created the plant paradox like, but you know, but I think this is something that we do with nutrition that is no is is a disadvantage to us, is we take each nutritional idea, and we become zealots for it, we think it’s an absolute, and we and then we struggle, because it wasn’t the thing that like, you know, TERT made our life completely different, or it made our life really worse. So do we know anything about the oxalates and lectins? From seats? Yeah, I
Kaya
have to admit, this is a conversation I’m not super well versed on and mostly want to roll my eyes when I hear because sorry, to upset the pregnant. Not not from you, not from you. But more so from when it’s made to be this huge thing, mostly because I feel like so many people are not even eating enough Whole Foods as it is telling them to eliminate an entire group of foods that could potentially be a source of Whole Foods, and then they’re there that’s like leading to some sort of orthorexia. I personally think you will say I do think it is an issue for some people. And we do have a lot of women who are using seat cycling who have gotten balances. That’s pretty common, I think, especially when women who have really horrible cycles, or they’re navigating perimenopause, and it’s really tough or menopause. And it’s really tough gut and balances are common. We haven’t had anybody experience any sort of negative side effects when it comes to their gut health that are outright. Yasmin, you can correct me if I’m wrong, it’s made, maybe some people feel like, Oh, I’m a little extra bloated,
Yasmin
I would say if anything, we have a small percentage of people who are like, Oh, I feel a little bit bloated, but I think they’re just not used to getting that much fiber in their diet. So I will tell them, start with half a scoop, and slowly build your way up, and they feel fine with time, right? And make sure that you’re hydrated enough, right? Because if you’re eating more fiber, you want to make sure you have enough water to support that. Otherwise, you
Kaya
could end up getting more constipated or more bloated. We haven’t personally seen that. But maybe if somebody’s listening to this, and they’ve tried seed cycling, they have an issue with lectins or oxalates, then I would love to hear from them. But again, sorry, Monday, it was not about more. So it’s really just because I feel that we’re we’re who who says it really good. We’re majoring in the minors when we talk about things like oxalates and lectins. Like I would just love for the majority of the population to be eating more real whole food and I think that would solve a lot of our problems.
Mindy Pelz
No, it’s you know what I would got so frustrated with this the other day because I’m like when people get like, but this health influencers says this, and then this health influencer says this, But and then my doctor said this, and then they’re all opposing each other. And I finally like lost it one day, just like your frustration right now. And I was like, Look, we have to look at this, like a toolbox. If you’re going to build a house, and you had a set of tools, you wouldn’t pick up the hammer, and then look at the screwdriver and be like, add the hammer is better than the screwdriver. screwdriver is not good enough, you would actually know that each tool was used for different things, and you would stop comparing them with each other. But I think again, you guys are very much deep in this health and hormone movement with your podcast and your product. I feel like one of the biggest disservices we are doing right now is trying to say there’s one way and that’s the only way and then the people are like well forget it. You know, they’re like yes, yeah, even know what to do now. total.
Kaya
Total, we
Mindy Pelz
have to invite it all into the conversation. And then say you play with it, you see what works for you. So that actually brings me to even the seat cycling. You know, does it come in like a bag? Like does it come in four different bags? Does it come in two different bags? What happens if I if I take some of the seeds at the wrong time of the cycle? Can I mess this up? I know these are the kinds of questions that our listeners are thinking about.
Yasmin
Yeah, it comes in two bags. The first one is what the flax and pumpkin are grounded. We had hemp and a little bit of chamomile and then the second is the sunflower and sesame and the hump and the little bit of chamomile and we get that question all the time. Do we have women emailing us but like I was so perfect I missed two days. Like Listen, don’t let perfect get in front of good like it’s just all about consistency and what is even good for your lifestyle and how can how does it become just easy for your own habit? So exactly if you miss a few days He’s no issues. Some people mess up, you know the phase because they’re kind of confused with their cycles and they’ll email us a while kind of help them get back on track, but it’s food. You can’t mess it up. It’s all about the long term ritual that you incorporate with seed cycling.
Kaya
Yeah, and they’re totally seasons to life to Jolene Brighton explains it so beautifully with cycling, she says, there are seasons of my life where I’m not going to be focused on this particular thing. I’m traveling, I’m going around, and I’m focused on my kids, whatever it is, and then I noticed that I fell off track with my cycle, and I bring seed cycling back in so it’s definitely not about being perfect, by any means.
Mindy Pelz
Thank you. I’m hoping everybody’s hearing that because we we get a lot of questions about like, Oh, my God, did I break my fast? What did I you know what? And I think that there is a concern amongst women that oh, I’m gonna do it wrong. And then I’m gonna have wasted money. And I just want to free women from that mentality to and so everybody listening, you can’t do it wrong. It’s fit. So So yeah, so thank you for that. Yeah. What so we’ve talked about puberty, I’m gonna say postpartum because you said don’t necessarily do it during pregnancy, and then perimenopause, and you talked about how important this would be during the pen of Peri menopausal time. Of all those categories of people. Do you see who is it the younger generation that’s gravitating to this? Is it the peri menopausal like, is there a an avatar? I don’t know another way to say this that gravitates to seed cycling? Is it women at the end of their rope? I mean, you’ve guys have a lot of people buying this product, what are you seeing as far as the person that really is gravitating to this?
Yasmin
Yeah, we asked this question all the time. Because actually, when Kanye launched, we thought it would only be about women and PMS. But we had so many other women reach out and want to try it. So we’ve done many surveys, and I would say the average, at least that we’re seeing are women who are around 28. To about like 50, who are seats cycling with us. Yeah.
Kaya
That’s yeah, I have. Yeah, that is the that’s definitely the time. And it’s so interesting that a lot of these women, in a way we are the end of the line for them, which makes me a little bit sad, but also like, I’m so happy to be there for these people. And Mindy, I’m sure you feel the same way about your community, too, that they’ve been dismissed for years that they’ve been looking for answers for years that they suspect they have endometriosis, or they, you know, had a hysterectomy at a very early age, and they’re navigating some challenges later in life. And they’re really just seeking out answers and they come to us really as as kind of a last option. And we we’re not necessarily the experts in the way that can help everybody but we point them in the right direction. We say seed cycling can be a part of your toolkit, we try to give them as much education as possible. We’re all about like, how can we give as much free education so women can take control of their health but it really does speak to this movement of women who are like, okay, you know, my doctor couldn’t help me or this person couldn’t help me and I need to start to look for my own answers.
Mindy Pelz
Yeah, my biggest cry right now is we I love that we’re talking hormones finally I love that this cultural conversation is happening but let’s not forget lifestyle it has to be lifestyle has to be so I when I hear you say it’s we are the last resort for a lot of women. I’m like okay to gather our voices can start to change that because it should be the first resort then you don’t have to be looking for a last a last resort. So totally. And then one of the questions I know that I’m going to get and I’m actually my my fasting brain is looking on this is can you use it in your fasting window? What does it do for blood sugar? If it’s a powder, I’m like, could I put it my coffee? What could I like? What have you tried? I don’t know if you both I know kya you’re probably not fasting but right now, but I hope you’re not fasting. But yeah, exactly. Is there I’m wondering like a what is it due to the metabolic system and I’m wondering how we can add it to something that would go in the fasting window, perhaps
Kaya
I haven’t tested it on like a CGM or anything like that. I would love to but you know, Mindy, just kind of asking you have you seen certain things like hemp, which technically are complete protein that would potentially break somebody’s fast I suspect, even if it is ground, so I’m not sure but it would be really cool to experiment and see what it does to somebody’s blood sugar or if they’re trying to, you know, stay in ketosis or something like that. Maybe that will be an
Yasmin
experiment. Yeah, cuz we know it in our coffee. So I’ll try it one day fast and see what it does. Put a seed
Mindy Pelz
Yeah. And I’ll try it as well. It’d be interesting to note because one of the ideas around hunger is that you are human sail cells are not hungry, but the bacteria in our gut are is hungry. So in my community we actually played a lot with okay what if you put did a probiotic while you were fast? In, you know what if you do some of the prebiotic powders, like we’ve played with everything to see if we could get the microbes to be satisfied, so they stopped sending you hunger since signals. I also am wondering, you know, I’m really a fan. Lately, I’ve been talking a lot about how the first meal matters, that first meal into your eating window. You know, everybody got excited about fasting, some people got critical of fasting. And I always say it’s only one side of a metabolic equation, we have a fasting window, we have an eating window, and we have switching between these two. So that first meal into your eating window, I’m thinking something like this, I actually used to put hemp seeds on avocado with sauerkraut. That was my break fast meal all the time. So I’d be curious if you guys if you all try adding in the powders. I mean, again Yasmin’s fasting, Kaya, you’re not but and see if if that would you know what that would do to stop hunger? How you would feel if that would be another level, we could unite our messages to get more rhythm going with these hormones. So you may have an answer to that. If not, go go go experiment, let me know. Yeah, we
Kaya
love telling people to take it in the morgue. Some people take it at night, actually, because they feel like they sleep better when they take it, which is really cool. But we love to tell people to take it in the morning because as you mentioned, that first meal, the way that you break your fast, whatever kind of fast, you’re doing 1214 16 hours is so important and can set you up for a disastrous day have a blood sugar roller coaster and feeling moody or hungry, or it can set you up for a really good day. And so getting that balance of protein, fat, and fiber is so nice in the morning. And the nice thing is that seeds have all of those things, they have the protein, they have the fat, they have the fiber, so it’s a good addition to, you know, something like you said avocado with sauerkraut with seeds. That sounds great. Sounds great. Yeah.
Mindy Pelz
It was literally my goatee forever. Like, because I was trying to, you know, see what I could do for my microbiome. Yeah, and so that was and then sometimes I’d add chia seeds, like I got, that’s where I got into seeds, I feel like you all have just taken this to another level, which is is beautiful. And I’m just a fan of food as medicine, like, I just I agree with you kya about like, like, Let’s get off the absolutes. Let’s get off the rhetoric, let’s just come back to nature provided some amazing hormonal medicine. And you all are doing an incredible job showing us how to use that. And I think we won’t have to lean into the all of the HRT and bioidenticals as much and I’m not, I’m not opposed to dos, I just think you’re taking women that are so lost, and they’re trying to grip on to the patches, hoping that’s going to be the thing without looking at something as simple as adding seeds back in like it’s it’s so simple. Only
Kaya
Yeah, anything that we can do earlier on to kind of prevent having to take not that they’re necessarily drastic measures, but they can feel drastic to a lot of people is so beneficial. And we’re so lucky to get to learn from you. We’ve learned so much from every all of your education and everything that you’ve taught us. So you know, the the love, it’s so mutual. Yes, thank
Mindy Pelz
you. Well, we’re way more powerful together. I you know, I really, I don’t know if you all are feeling feeling this, and I’ll ended on this women’s empowerment moment. But I really feel like women are waking up and they’re like, wait a second, my body is different than a man’s body. So what does that mean? Like that that AHA is happening in so many women’s head heads. That is where we start this discussion. Now the challenge is that there still is a Big Pharma has every every desire to keep us medicated. I’m not anti medication, I just think it should be last resort. So I just think we have to take conversations like this and spread it out so that we can all just at least go from a mind that was close to a mind that’s open now. And then together, we can really figure this out. We’re way more powerful together. So so I decided this. So okay, my Well, before I asked you my final question, how do people get a hold of your products? And I’m going to really encourage my followers to give it a go and what would the Go be? Is it 30 days, 90 days? Like what do you typically tell someone to do?
Yasmin
Yeah, we always like to say give it which I’m sure you know, Mindy at least three months, 90 days to kind of see the impact. So on our website, which is Bl wellness.com. We allow you to do one month if you just want to try it, see if you can even add it to your day to day or it’s you know, we give you a bigger discount with a three month just because we really want to encourage women to get that real experience and then you would just continue from there.
Speaker 1
Yeah, and I would say I agree with that. It takes the body sometimes 90 days to adapt but like you said often people see changes within 30 solely yeah Yeah, I think that’s absolutely brilliant. So and then you guys will have codes for us discount codes, we’ll leave that in the unless you know it off the top. Yeah, well,
Yasmin
but Pelz P E L z will get $5 off. So, um, but we’ll make sure to give you all the information that you can add in your show notes as well.
Mindy Pelz
Great, wonderful. Okay, my last question, and I always love this one, because I don’t know what anybody is gonna say. And Jasmine, I’m gonna start with you. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, we’re gonna we’re gonna we’re gonna give the pregnant woman a moment. She’s been on a roll out there. I know, she probably.
Kaya
I’m over here sweating.
Mindy Pelz
Exactly, exactly. So what is your definition of health? Because we’re all chasing something that we have not given a unified definition to? And how do you know? What’s your personal measurement for health? So what’s your definition? What’s your personal measurement?
Yasmin
I would say the way I would personally define health is how I’m personally feeling in my own body, I think we can get so and I’ve been there before, and I have to reel myself and you can get, you can just compare yourself to other people, what works for this person, how this person is feeling how this person is showing up. And I’m like, what really matters is how do you feel in your own body? And that even goes to not doing certain trends, not eating something that doesn’t feel right for you. So I think about that a lot. And then your second question, Mindy, remind me, I’m not pregnant, but I don’t remember.
Mindy Pelz
Thank you for that clarification. Where are you? Where are you in your cycle? Maybe that’ll help me understand. Oh,
Yasmin
my God. I’m on my luteal phase for sure. Okay.
Mindy Pelz
That’s good. Yeah, there’s, we’ve already had, we’ve already had enough stress going on for you. Like how, you know, how do you know you’re healthy? Like, I think you probably just answered it. Like, I think there’s we tend to ignore health until we aren’t healthy. Yeah. So do you have like a day to day check in to say, Yeah, I’m moving in the right, the right direction.
Yasmin
Yeah. And I know, You’ve been talking a lot about burnout and my whole life, I think I’ve been chronically burnout and my own hormonal journey. It makes sense. Yeah. So I’m on my path. And I think, for me, it’s, am I giving myself permission to take care of myself, right? We’re, I think we’re all here. And we’re so passionate about our mission, I can get lost with work every hour of the day, because I genuinely am so built, all of us here are so passionate that I’ve had to reel myself in and be like, Yasmin, are you giving yourself permission for you to take that walk in the morning? Take a second to truly eat your breakfast. So I think, you know, I’ve been telling you, I’ve been recently doing that, only this past week, and I already feel significantly better. So it’s like giving myself permission to take care of myself. And, you know, as much as I want to give to the world and everybody else. Yeah,
Mindy Pelz
you know what I’ve been doing i So resonate with that, because one of the things I’ve been doing is when I look at a day, if it has space in it, my my brain used to say, Oh, I could do this project, I can do this project. And I’ve been reminding myself when I could go for a walk, I could call a friend, I could read a fiction book, I could, you know, like, stop filling the space with more product production. So I love that. And I think we I think we all have to hold each other accountable. Yeah, one of one of the statements I’ve been using lately, as I call it, the patriarchal hex. I feel like we’ve all been like in this like, like days, like I got to perform, I got to perform, I got to perform. And yet our feminine bodies can’t keep up with that. So we have to remember to rest so I love that. So, okay, okay, what’s your definition of health? Yeah,
Kaya
thinking of just what’s my measurement of if I feel healthy or not? Since becoming a mom, for me, it’s Do I have the energy and am I present with my child, and that is my measurement of how I’m doing that day. Because if I don’t have the energy, and I don’t, and I’m kind of scattered, or I’m looking at my phone, or I’m thinking about work, then I can tell that something’s off in my body. And I hope that extends into one day. One of my biggest hopes and desires in this world is to be a grandparent, to many children. I’ve always loved that vision of just being a grandmother with so many grandchildren around me and being able to lay Yeah, I just want to be able to play with them and keep up with them for my life. So energy is a huge, huge thing for me and the ability to be present to the people in front of me and what’s in front of me, the food in front of me everything that I’m doing, versus feeling scattered is really the way that I look at it and then also being able to step into gratitude at any moment and just feel really, really thankful for everything in my life. Those are probably the two presidents in gratitude and then the third energy
Mindy Pelz
you know, at the tail end of my practice, I we did lifestyle, all kinds of lifestyle tools. to my practice, and I started to see a trend in women that were five years out from retirement. And they would come in my practice was in Silicon Valley, and they would come in, and they’d be like, I got five more years, and then I’m out. But the way I feel from the stress of work is that when I get to that five year mark, I’m going to have not be healthy. I need to know how to be healthy. So I love that you have that long term vision. I think that’s part of where we fall apart is we’re only thinking of today and where we’re comfortable today. I always say every single day, every workout I do every fast I do, I’m thinking about my 90 year old self, like what does she need? So I just think that’s beautiful. So well, I love you, girls, and I can talk to you all day. And again, we’re just thank you for having this collective conversation with me. I just feel like we’re so much more powerful together when we just keep opening this up. And I knew in my heart that as I’m talking more and more about food as hormonal medicine, that I couldn’t leave seed cycling out that there had to be a discussion. And you guys were at. So thank you for everything you’re doing. And I want when you get your research done, I want you to come back and tell us everything that you’ve learned.
Kaya
Oh, yeah, we would love that. And we’re so grateful for it. We’re so excited for your upcoming book. I can’t wait to read it and talk about it and ship. Thank you for every chair at all of the things. So thank you so much for having me.
Yasmin
Thank you, Mindy, for paving the way for all of us. We’re just so so inspired by you. Thanks for having us.
Mindy Pelz
Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you so much for joining me in today’s episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we’d love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.
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// RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
- Beeya Wellness Happy Hormones Kit – use code PELZ for $5 off your first order
- Study: Properties of Nuts and Edible Seeds and Their Relationship to Obesity
- Study: Effects of Dietary Phytoestrogens on Hormones throughout a Human Lifespan
- Study: What happens when you stop using the combined contraceptive pill?
- The Resetter Podcast: Understanding the Changes in Your Female Brain After 40 with Dr. Lisa Mosconi
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